SOLD A Herd of Unicorns

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Note about international shipping: In a previous life, I felt like I didn't want to say CONUS only in my ads. Everyone wants chips and shipping internationally can't be that hard, right? In the time of covid, however, I don't feel comfortable spending any more time at the post office than I have to. For now, no international orders please. If you have someone stateside who can re-ship, I'm happy to work with you to get the deal done.

Pre-sale Count: 3738
Pricing:
- 1-299 chips: $0.14/chip $0.12/chip + shipping
- 300-499 chips: $0.12/chip $0.10/chip + shipping
- 500+ chips: $0.10/chip $0.08/chip + shipping
BIN: If some crazy wants to buy them all, I'll sell for $0.07/chip + shipping If you want them all, just PM me and we'll figure it out.
Order preference: Higher quantity orders win out over lower quantity. I'll do my best to respect dibs, but only to a point. I'd like to get these sold.

Some notes:
- There's quite a bit of variation here. Some are razor sharp and very plasticy. Some I would have sworn were clay. Some have stamps. Some are clean, and some are very dirty.
- To my knowledge, despite feel, they're all plastic.
- These will all mill well, which was my plan. They'll also accept a hot stamp.

Remaining quantities. Please see next post for more description of each chip.

IDQuantity
U001-GR
239​
U002-LV
0​
U003-OR
0​
U004-BK
0​
U005-BK
77​
U006-BL
73​
U007-BK
0​
U008-YL
0​
U009-RD
0​
U010-OR
0​
U011-WT
0​
U012-WT
173​
U013-GR
336​
U014-RD
22​
U015-BK
12​
U016-WT
0​
U017-OR
0​
U018-BK
0​
U019-PK
0​
U020-GN
0​
U021-PP
0​
U022-OR
0​
U023-GY
0​

Here's some photos. If there's something you'd like to see a bit closer, feel free to ask. No guarantee that they're all even represented here, but I've tried my best.

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Part of the reason I bought all of these was for research. I was convinced that some of them were clay. I now don't think that, but I did collect a whole lot of data! Did I learn anything? No. Was it fun? Yes!

Here it is, for better or worse.

IDColorCPC MatchQuantityAvg Grams/chipStack Height MMFeelSlip TestWobble TestSharpnessEdge FlakesEdge GlossTailLegsPips
U001-GRGreenGreen
239​
7.52​
64​
PlasticYYRoundedNMatteRoundLongN
U002-LVLavenderLavender
100​
8.56​
66.5​
ClayNNSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U003-OROrangeDayglo Orange
311​
8.46​
67​
ClayNNRoundedNMatteRoundLongN
U004-BKBlackBlack
99​
8.03​
66​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U005-BKBlackBlack
77​
7.07​
65.5​
PlasticNYSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U006-BLBlueLight Blue
93​
9.19​
65.5​
PlasticYYRoundedNGlossyRoundLongY
U007-BKBlackBlack
100​
8.35​
66​
ClayNNSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U008-YLYellowCanary
102​
8.17​
66​
ClayNYSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U009-RDRedMandarin Red
100​
8.24​
67​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U010-OROrangeDayglo Orange
103​
8.34​
66​
ClayNNSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U011-WTWhiteBright White
100​
8.11​
67​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U012-WTWhiteWhite
193​
8.08​
65​
ClayNNRoundedNMatteRoundLongN
U013-GRGreenGreen
336​
8.74​
65​
PlasticNYRoundedNGlossyRoundLongY
U014-RDRedRed
22​
8.95​
65​
PlasticNYRoundedNGlossyRoundLongY
U015-BKBlackBlack
12​
8.92​
65​
PlasticNYRoundedNGlossyRoundLongY
U016-WTWhiteBright White
30​
7.93​
66​
ClayNYSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U017-OROrangeDayglo Orange
18​
7.83​
65​
ClayYYSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U018-BKBlackBlack
10​
8.00​
66​
ClayNNSharpNMatteRoundLongN
U019-PKPinkDayglo Pink
377​
8.04​
66.5​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U020-GNGreenLight Green
298​
8.24​
66.5​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U021-PPPurplePurple
399​
8.22​
67​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U022-OROrangeDayglo Peach
300​
8.00​
67​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY
U023-GYGreyCharcoal
319​
8.20​
67​
PlasticYNSharpYMatteFlatShortY

And here's a key for the different columns.



ColumnDescription
IDUnique numeric identifier
ColorApproximate Color
CPC MatchClosest color match on CPC color samples
QuantityHow many do I have?
Avg Grams/chipCalculated average weight of a single chip
Stack Height MMObvserved stack height in milimeters
FeelDoes it feel more like clay or plastic?
Slip TestDoes a stack of three chips slip around when rubbed between fingers?
Wobble TestDoes a stack wobble when nudged?
SharpnessAre the edges sharp or rounded?
Edge FlakesDo the edges have plastic flaking off?
Edge GlossAre the edges glossy or matte
TailIs the tail rounded or more flat?
LegsAre the legs short or long
PipsIs there an injection pip?
 

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I was convinced that some of them were clay. I now don't think that, but I did collect a whole lot of data!
If a chip feels like clay and it weighs 8.5 grams and you can’t find an injection point, why would you conclude that it isn’t clay?
 

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If a chip feels like clay and it weighs 8.5 grams and you can’t find an injection point, why would you conclude that it isn’t clay?
History, I guess? My research suggested that the clay version of these chips were exceedingly rare.

They still may be clay, but I don't feel comfortable saying the definitively are. I tried pretty hard to prove that they were. I even burned a representative chip of each group to look for differences, but no luck.
 

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Would you be willing to mill these, by any chance?
 

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Would you be willing to mill these, by any chance?
Hmm, maybe? Don't have a ton of free time for that. I quoted $0.25/chip in my other thread, so I guess I'd honor that price here. How many would you want milled?

Can these take a label?
Not enough consistency between chips to make a blanket statement. Just checked a few with the digital calipers. 0.2mm recess on the really plasticy ones. Closer to 0.15mm on the clay-like ones. So I'd say you'd probably be good.*

* I am not a doctor.
 

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Hmm, maybe? Don't have a ton of free time for that. I quoted $0.25/chip in my other thread, so I guess I'd honor that price here. How many would you want milled?


Not enough consistency between chips to make a blanket statement. Just checked a few with the digital calipers. 0.2mm recess on the really plasticy ones. Closer to 0.15mm on the clay-like ones. So I'd say you'd probably be good.*

* I am not a doctor.
My initial plan was for a 500 to 600 tournament set — but will probably end up being cost prohibitive with shipping to the UK though (I would use a US shipping address through Shipito), on second thoughts. Think I'll have to pass, sadly — as much as I love these. GLWS.
 

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History, I guess? My research suggested that the clay version of these chips were exceedingly rare.

They still may be clay, but I don't feel comfortable saying the definitively are. I tried pretty hard to prove that they were. I even burned a representative chip of each group to look for differences, but no luck.
So you're saying that the ones without an injection dimple burned like a torch? - just like the ones with?
 

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Bump. All prices lowered. Existing dibs will be honored at lower prices, and I’ll reach out to buyers now.

Let’s get these sold!
 

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No not clay, but look different than the real cheap chips.

Nicer smoother finish and not as slippery.

Chipco made a lot of these for Casino's to use, especially for 25c chips.

I have some of the 25c Hot Stamped Casino made chips.
 

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Were those clay? How can you tell?
This was debated several years ago regarding whether there were compression-molded unicorn chips produced at some point, and I don't believe we ever got consensus. @41Pickup, a well respected chipper, along with Robert Eisenstadt (chip mold bible creator - RIP), noted that some of the Unicorn chips did not have the injection dimple and felt very much compression-molded. David Spragg and Jim Blanchard (ASM/CPC) both came back and said that only injection-molded Unicorns were ever made. As far as I recall, no tests were conducted to burn the chips to determine composition.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/mint-hot-stamps-from-vegas-275-00-shipped.21323/

FWIW, all Unicorns I own are clearly Chipco plastics.

Edit: Burn test were conducted. Please see @41Pickup's response below
 
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No not clay, but look different than the real cheap chips.

Nicer smoother finish and not as slippery.

Chipco made a lot of these for Casino's to use, especially for 25c chips.

I have some of the 25c Hot Stamped Casino made chips.

Some of these are clearly of a higher quality than others. I can't be sure of a manufacturer, but there's no doubt in my mind that there's a world of difference between some.

This was debated several years ago regarding whether there were compression-molded unicorn chips produced at some point, and I don't believe we ever got consensus. @41Pickup, a well respected chipper, along with Robert Eisenstadt (chip mold bible creator - RIP), noted that some of the Unicorn chips did not have the injection dimple and felt very much compression-molded. David Spragg and Jim Blanchard (ASM/CPC) both came back and said that only injection-molded Unicorns were ever made. As far as I recall, no tests were conducted to burn the chips to determine composition.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/mint-hot-stamps-from-vegas-275-00-shipped.21323/

FWIW, all Unicorns I own are clearly Chipco plastics.

Yep, I've read through all the threads. I hoped -- perhaps ignorantly -- to solve the problem myself. Unfortunately, I have no new answers.
 

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This was debated several years ago regarding whether there were compression-molded unicorn chips produced at some point, and I don't believe we ever got consensus. @41Pickup, a well respected chipper, along with Robert Eisenstadt (chip mold bible creator - RIP), noted that some of the Unicorn chips did not have the injection dimple and felt very much compression-molded. David Spragg and Jim Blanchard (ASM/CPC) both came back and said that only injection-molded Unicorns were ever made. As far as I recall, no tests were conducted to burn the chips to determine composition.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/mint-hot-stamps-from-vegas-275-00-shipped.21323/

FWIW, all Unicorns I own are clearly Chipco plastics.


Most of this mold are definitely plastic. That being said there are some that ae definitely not. at my request @AfterTheFact set one he had on fire that was plastic and the plastic dripped as you would expect. The ones I had found listed in the above story were not plastic. When we tried to burn it, the video showed and entirely different reaction and they did not really burn . When we presented David Spragg from the chip board that info, he did some digging and did say that one of the manufacturers did use this mold for a very short time trying to get into the clay chip market. I will see if I can find that response in some old archives.
 

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I'll take a chance on all the whites please. 273 i believe. and then 2 barrels of the lavender. 314 total.
 

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Most of this mold are definitely plastic. That being said there are some that ae definitely not. at my request @AfterTheFact set one he had on fire that was plastic and the plastic dripped as you would expect. The ones I had found listed in the above story were not plastic. When we tried to burn it, the video showed and entirely different reaction and they did not really burn . When we presented David Spragg from the chip board that info, he did some digging and did say that one of the manufacturers did use this mold for a very short time trying to get into the clay chip market. I will see if I can find that response in some old archives.
I burned some of these, including the ones that were very clearly plastic. None dropped at all. Some burned really dirty and smelled like burning plastic. Some others smoldered more and almost smelled good.
 
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