Out of the Shadows

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This documentary was put up on YouTube 4 days ago and has accrued over 5M views. I am not finished watching it yet but interested to hear what other people think.

 

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I am not religious and pass on that stuff. I think some of the info is compelling though.
It might be. Maybe it's my area, but we get so much of this kinda stuff that I normally just take a look and move on. Could be valid and neat, but i have a rough time with the way alot of stuff is delivered. "Patriots" is a run away keyword.

I deal with alot of III%ers.
 

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It might be. Maybe it's my area, but we get so much of this kinda stuff that I normally just take a look and move on. Could be valid and neat, but i have a rough time with the way alot of stuff is delivered. "Patriots" is a run away keyword.

I deal with alot of III%ers.

Gotcha. So you are saying you aren't a PATRIOT ! :)
 

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I’ll pass. I’m guessing I’d get an overpriced bill afterwards for “services rendered” or some bs.

Best of luck with your YouTube, sorry for the less than zero interest of literally anyone.

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Watched it, and would recommend others do as well. Very compelling info in regards to media.

I think the subject matter is rarely discussed while at the same time super interesting. I am not posting as an outright endorsement of everything in that doc. I legit just wanted to have some conversation/discussion of these topics.
 

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Yo gimmee some cliffs notes!

I just skim most of what people post as it is, I can't be botheted to spend 20 full seconds washing my hands (that's a friggin eternity!) So I don't know I can commit a full hour here!
 

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I was going to check it out, then I read through the comments, saw something about Bible verses and "Patriots", and started to raise an eyebrow. Then I clicked on "Show ignored content" and saw @hdgeno endorsing the video. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :banghead: Ya, I'm out. Sorry guys.
 

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I have been interested in 'conspiracy theories' for a long while. I have spend countless hours investigating all manner of subjects, ranging from UFOs to secret societies to the occult.

I am not prepared to summarize this video, as I have not finished it, and don't have time right now for a protracted discussion that will most likely draw ridicule from multiple directions. However, I have seen enough information to say unequivocally that there are at least threads of truth contained in this video. Probably more than threads, but I've found that it's important to be conservative with claims about subjects likely to produce a visceral reaction.

The more you dig into this topic, the more you realize just how much information is available about it. Books, news articles, videos, leaked documents; it never stops. If 100% of this data is a fabrication with no basis in reality, it is simply the most extraordinary achievement in performance art ever produced by man. It would also be the most despicable and darkest such production in history. Even if a huge portion of it is fabrication, say above 95% - there is a sufficient remainder to describe a sinister and deeply disturbing underbody to what we call civilization.

If you are not prepared to spend time investigating this, that's fine; I understand. However, I do not understand making judgements based on emotional reasoning. Accept that you are comfortable with the unknowns, whatever color they may be. Engage in no judgement of those who have an unquenchable thirst for Truth, even if that Truth is shocking, disturbing, or exposes your safe and comfortable life as a fabrication.

A man who quotes scripture might believe wholeheartedly in a fantasy creation theory, or he might believe that there must be a ying of good to the yang of evil. The universe does seem to prefer states of equilibrium. Or, maybe, the words in a book largely about hope is an important therapy for the things he has seen and discovered.

tl;dr Please don't leave your objectivity at the door of this thread.
 

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I have been interested in 'conspiracy theories' for a long while. I have spend countless hours investigating all manner of subjects, ranging from UFOs to secret societies to the occult.

............A man who quotes scripture might believe wholeheartedly in a fantasy creation theory, or he might believe that there must be a ying of good to the yang of evil. The universe does seem to prefer states of equilibrium. Or, maybe, the words in a book largely about hope is an important therapy for the things he has seen and discovered.

tl;dr Please don't leave your objectivity at the door of this thread.

that universe equilibrium you speak of.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
 

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I was going to check it out, then I read through the comments, saw something about Bible verses and "Patriots", and started to raise an eyebrow.
I see you followed my process. Lol
 

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Our current understanding of physics cannot describe everything we can observe even with senses unaided by technology (gravity, for example). Therefore conclusions based on that body of science are, at best, a partial picture. The further out you go, the fuzzier the picture gets. For purposes practical to our lives, the heat death of the universe is science fiction. Literally speaking.
 

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I have been interested in 'conspiracy theories' for a long while. I have spend countless hours investigating all manner of subjects, ranging from UFOs to secret societies to the occult.

I am not prepared to summarize this video, as I have not finished it, and don't have time right now for a protracted discussion that will most likely draw ridicule from multiple directions. However, I have seen enough information to say unequivocally that there are at least threads of truth contained in this video. Probably more than threads, but I've found that it's important to be conservative with claims about subjects likely to produce a visceral reaction.

The more you dig into this topic, the more you realize just how much information is available about it. Books, news articles, videos, leaked documents; it never stops. If 100% of this data is a fabrication with no basis in reality, it is simply the most extraordinary achievement in performance art ever produced by man. It would also be the most despicable and darkest such production in history. Even if a huge portion of it is fabrication, say above 95% - there is a sufficient remainder to describe a sinister and deeply disturbing underbody to what we call civilization.

If you are not prepared to spend time investigating this, that's fine; I understand. However, I do not understand making judgements based on emotional reasoning. Accept that you are comfortable with the unknowns, whatever color they may be. Engage in no judgement of those who have an unquenchable thirst for Truth, even if that Truth is shocking, disturbing, or exposes your safe and comfortable life as a fabrication.

A man who quotes scripture might believe wholeheartedly in a fantasy creation theory, or he might believe that there must be a ying of good to the yang of evil. The universe does seem to prefer states of equilibrium. Or, maybe, the words in a book largely about hope is an important therapy for the things he has seen and discovered.

tl;dr Please don't leave your objectivity at the door of this thread.


Insightful comment.

For anyone looking for a summary of the video it is essentially about media and who controls the narrative emerging from movies, music, and the news.

The latter part gets into explaining a pedophile ring among societies elite.

We don't really need to go down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole to piece together object facts about the world. Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile that hung out with many elites. I view it is simply piecing together facts about the world that are plainly seen.
 
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