Big O but NO Qualifier (Discuss) (1 Viewer)

[churlbut18]

I love the simplicity of Big O, but I don’t like that the “low” is only present less than 50% of the time due to the 8 qualifier, keeping it from a true split pot game.

What’s surprising is that I never see anyone play a variant where Big O is simply played without the 8 qualifier to guarantee a split every hand, given how much we love split pot circus games.

So instead we gravitate towards games like Ultimate Double-Board or 2 and 5 Omaha variants.

But then a game like Dra2maha Low, we don’t have a qualifier and it works.

So why does Big O need a qualifier?

Is “Big O No Qualifier” worth considering?

 

[WedgeRock]

What's better than pounding the pot holding the nut high and getting called by a nut low draw that never gets there?

 

[BEANO52]

What's better than pounding the pot holding the nut high and getting called by a nut low draw that never gets there?

Calling all the way with 2nd nut high only to find out your "emergency" 6, 8 low gets 1/2.

 

[Machine]

“Big O No Qualifier”

This is an oxymoron; the game is called Big O and it is 8 or better. The game you suggest is '5 Card PLO Hi/Lo no qualifier'

 

[WedgeRock]

Calling all the way with 2nd nut high only to find out your "emergency" 6, 8 low gets 1/2.

 

[allforcharity]

Encourages tighter play.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

So why does Big O need a qualifier?

Is “Big O No Qualifier” worth considering?

Many pots in poker end up heads up, I don't love the idea of an almost guaranteed split pot. I find the qualifier to be a much more interesting problem vs just seeing who can make the overall worst hand. Sure, you can play it, life's wonderful like that, but there's a reason many split pot games require the qualifier.

 

[upNdown]

I love the simplicity of Big O, but I don’t like that the “low” is only present less than 50% of the time due to the 8 qualifier, keeping it from a true split pot game.

FWIW, it’s more like 60% of the time.
From my perspective, not having a low all the time makes it a much better game. I’m not playing a split pot game because it’s nice and equitable to have two winners. I’m playing a split pot game because I’m hoping to scooooop!

 

[OzzieJim]

AAKKQ DS.

Board comes AKJAT. You flop top two sets, improve to quads and then river the royal flush.

You give up half the pot to 88K74 1 suit (74) for the low.

Sounds great!

 

[BGinGA]

Big nO.

 

[kmccormick100]

Big nO.

Aka most of PCF's sex life

 

[churlbut18]

FWIW, it’s more like 60% of the time.
From my perspective, not having a low all the time makes it a much better game. I’m not playing a split pot game because it’s nice and equitable to have two winners. I’m playing a split pot game because I’m hoping to scooooop!

So a game like 5-Card ImPLOcean 8 would increase the likelihood of a low hand given there are 6 board cards (compared to Big O)

 

[upNdown]

So a game like 5-Card ImPLOcean 8 would increase the likelihood of a low hand given there are 6 board cards (compared to Big O)

I’ve never played that one, but I’m assuming it’s just Big O with another street after the river?
Yeah that would increase the odds, but whether it bumps it up to 65% or 70% or what, I guess we’d need a mathematician.
But if you’re playing that game pot limit deep stacked, it must get crazy expensive!

 

[churlbut18]

I’ve never played that one, but I’m assuming it’s just Big O with another street after the river?
Yeah that would increase the odds, but whether it bumps it up to 65% or 70% or what, I guess we’d need a mathematician.
But if you’re playing that game pot limit deep stacked, it must get crazy expensive!

Yah, basically turn and river come out together, round if betting and then 6th board card comes out (the ocean) as I understand it. Here are the variations. Middle one is the hi/lo.