I am going to ask for a somm tomorrow and see what they say. We are going fairly early so can get happy hour pours for $9/12.
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Anyone remembering my posts knows that I love me some Italian. This is fantastic! Great fruit tannin balance.
Well...meal was amazing. Wife is definitely happy.
Anyone on here into German Riesling?
Yes, but we have our own home-grown varieties in my part of the Canadian wine-producing regions.
We do as well in Michigan. I’ve just really been loving the German versions lately. But do not know a ton about them.
I find they are great summer wines, especially if eaten with cold (or at most warm) seafood. If you like riesling, I'm sure you'll also like gewurztraminer. They are my favourite white varietals from local wineries because they make them so well. But if you have access to some from Alsace, you should give them a try.
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+1 on Alsace! I’m not a white wine fan but Alsatian whites are some of the best I’ve had.
The proverbial Xinomavro (Sour Black) tamed by equally ancient and traditional varieties Krassato (wine-intended) and Stavroto (Cross-matching) from the foothills of Mt Olympus.
I've uploaded again Rapsani (the place name), and chances are I 'll keep doing so, 'cause it's a steal here at E8.5
Tonight it accompanied a perverse Pesto sauce (boosted with tons of garlic and black pepper) - linguine being the pasta.
It's a clearly mountain dish @AK Chip
I've uploaded again Rapsani (the place name), and chances are I 'll keep doing so, 'cause it's a steal here at E8.5
Tonight it accompanied a perverse Pesto sauce (boosted with tons of garlic and black pepper) - linguine being the pasta.
It's a clearly mountain dish @AK Chip
When cold weather delays shipment and then they all ship out the same day...
Big Jilm
4 of a Kind
I haven't had this one in some time. Better than I remember!
Is this 100% Tempranillo?
I have generally enjoyed Garnacha (Grenache) from Spain more consistently than Tempranillo. but I wouldn't say no to the latter if it was offered. In my area, Spanish wines offer some of the best bang for the buck, right up there with Argentina.
Big Jilm
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Si, Tempranillo! It has a nice little spice to it. It was only $15.
I have one more bottle of the Hidalgo Tradicion H. Here are my other 2 Riojas. The 2015 was $12 and the 2018 was $10. The 2015 is on deck.
Big Jilm
4 of a Kind
- Sigalas Assyrtiko Santorini 2019
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
42 99
- Domaine Tatsis Xiropotamos Xinomavro Blanc 2017
Other White Wine from Macedonia, Greece
22 99
- Argyros Estate Assyrtiko Santorini 2019
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
39 99
- Argyros Atlantis White 2018
Other White Blends from Santorini, Greece
22 99
- Diamantakos Preknadi 2016
Other White Wine from Naoussa, Greece
26 99
- Domaine Zafeirakis Limniona Rose 2019
Rosé from Greece
14 99
- Diamantakos Xinomavro 2017
Xinomavro from Naoussa, Greece
35 99
- Gaia Agiorgitiko 2018
Agiorgitiko from Nemea, Greece
21 99
- Gaia Ritinitis Nobilis Retsina
Other White Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
18 99
- Thymiopoulos Uranos Xinomavro 2017
Xinomavro from Naoussa, Greece
35 99
- Gaia Monograph Assyrtiko 2019
Assyrtiko from Nemea, Greece
19 99
- Domaine Tatsis Roditis 2014
Other White Wine from Macedonia, Greece
31 99
- Sigalas Am Assyrtiko-Monemvasia Santorini 2019
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
24 99
- Domaine Tatsis Xinomavro Goumenissa 2004
Xinomavro from Greece
41 99
- Semeli Thea Mantinia 2017
Other White Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
26 99
- Domaine Gioulis Sofos Red 2018
Other Red Blends from Other Peloponnese, Greece
12 99
- Gaia Monograph Moschofilero 2019
Moschofilero from Other Peloponnese, Greece
15 99
- Ktima Pavlidis Thema 2016
Other Red Blends from Greece
28 99
- Gaia Santorini Wild Ferment Assyrtiko 2018
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
46 99
- Alpha Estate Hedgehog Vineyard Xinomavro 2017
Xinomavro from Macedonia, Greece
23 99
- Domaine Karydas Xinomavro 2015
Xinomavro from Naoussa, Greece
31 99
- Domaine Zafeirakis Limniona 2017
Other Red Wine from Greece
24 99
- Gaia Estate Red 2016
Agiorgitiko from Nemea, Greece
49 99
- Gaia Monograph Agiorgitiko 2019
Agiorgitiko from Nemea, Greece
15 99
- Argyros Atlantis Red 2017
Other Red Blends from Santorini, Greece
24 99
- Domaine Glinavos Zitsa Brut 2015
Vintage Sparkling Wine from Greece
25 99
- Gaia Notios Red 2019
Other Red Blends from Nemea, Greece
17 99
- Skouras Zoe Red 2019
Other Red Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
14 99
- Kir-Yianni Ramnista Vineyard Xinomavro 2016
Xinomavro from Naoussa, Greece
29 99
- Domaine Glinavos Paleokerisio (500ML) 2019
Fruit Wine from Greece
14 99
- Douloufakis Dafnios White 2019
Other White Wine from Crete, Greece
18 99
- Domaine Zafeirakis Chardonnay 2018
Chardonnay from Greece
19 99
- Domaine Nerantzi Malagousia 2016
Other White Wine from Greece
20 99
- Vaeni Naoussa Grande Reserve 2013
Other Red Wine from Naoussa, Greece
3.5 18 Ratings
17 99
- Domaine Methymnaeos Organic Chidiriotiko 2015
Other Red Wine from Greece
35 99
- Sclavos Robola 2019
Other White Wine from Greece
23 99
- Koutsoyannopoulos Nikteri 2016
Other White Wine from Santorini, Greece
39 99
- Domaine Economou (Oikonomoy) Late Harvest Liatiko Sitia 2006
Other Dessert from Crete, Greece
44 99
- Semeli Nemea Reserve 2015
Other Red Wine from Nemea, Greece
23 99
- Douloufakis Dafnios Red 2018
Other Red Wine from Crete, Greece
18 99
- Thymiopoulos Atma Assyrtiko 2017
Assyrtiko from Naoussa, Greece
19 99
- Sclavos Orgion 2017
Other Red Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
27 99
- Domaine Gioulis Sofos White 2019
Other White Blends from Other Peloponnese, Greece
12 99
- Santo Assyrtiko 2019
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
28 99
- Semeli Mountain Sun Rose 2017
Rosé from Other Peloponnese, Greece
16 99
- Gentilini Robola 2018
Other White Wine from Greece
25 99
- Skouras Moscofilero 2019
Other White Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
18 99
- Thymiopoulos Atma White 2018
Other White Wine from Naoussa, Greece
19 99
- Alpha Estate Turtles Vineyard Malagouzia 2019
Other White Wine from Greece
19 99
- Skouras Zoe White 2019
Other White Blends from Other Peloponnese, Greece
14 99
- Vaeni Naoussa Xinomavro 2018
Xinomavro from Naoussa, Greece
11 99
- Troupis Winery Fteri Rose 2017
Rosé from Greece
15 99
- Troupis Winery Mantinia 2017
Other White Wine from Greece
19 99
- Skouras Grand Cuvee Nemea 2015
Other Red Wine from Nemea, Greece
37 99
- Kir-Yianni Paranga Red 2017
Other Red Blends from Macedonia, Greece
17 99
- Kir-Yianni Paranga White 2018
Other White Wine from Macedonia, Greece
17 99
- Domaine Zafeirakis Malagousia 2019
Other White Wine from Greece
18 99
- Semeli Mountain Sun White 2019
Other White Blends from Other Peloponnese, Greece
18 99
- Skouras Zoe Rose 2019
Rosé from Other Peloponnese, Greece
16 99
- Domaine Glinavos Zitsa Debina 2019
Other White Wine from Greece
19 99
- Domaine Nerantzi Pentapolis 2017
Other White Blends from Macedonia, Greece
19 99
- Gentilini Robola 2019
Other White Wine from Greece
25 99
- Skouras Megas Oenos Red 2016
Other Red Blends from Other Peloponnese, Greece
34 99
- Alpha Estate Axia Red 2015
23 99
- Domaine Tatsis Old Roots Xinomavro 2015
Xinomavro from Macedonia, Greece
32 99
- Koutsoyannopoulos Ksera Homata Old Vines Assyrtiko Santorini 2019
Assyrtiko from Santorini, Greece
39 99
- Domaine Nerantzi Koniaros 2013
57 99
- Semeli Mantinia 2019
19 99
- Thymiopoulos Atma Assyrtiko 2019
Assyrtiko from Naoussa, Greece
19 99
- Gentilini Eclipse 2016
Other Red Blends from Greece
29 99
- Semeli Mountain Sun Red 2017
Other Red Wine from Other Peloponnese, Greece
16 99
@Coyote -- anything great here???
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Tonight’s wine served with a dinner of seared scallops, couscous and steamed broccoli.
Any Assyrtiko from Santorini is a marvel (especially to accompany fish and seafood). Bad thing is the World now knows, so we can hardly afford it here anymore...
Dunno
As with Sigalas, Argyros is a guarantee for Santorini Assyrtiko
Sounds very very interesting
Dunno about the last two
Xinomavro from Naoussa and Agiorgitiko from Nemea should be bought and drunk blind if the price is right. Don't know if the Diamantakos Xinomavro justifies the somewhat tall price; haven't tried it.
If you can stand resin in the wine, this is supposed to be a refined version.
That's how white wine was preserved in Greece probably for milennia.
YES!!!
Haven't tasted any of the above
YES!!
Absolutely. The old vines Xinomavro, though, by Alpha Estate, is even better (probably one of the very best Xinomavra ever) - and pricier.
Hard to go wrong
Dunno
Why so expensive? Please find out and tell me
Both should be fine
Nice in summer, fegrigerated. This grape (called Debina), though, reaches its moment of glory when distilled to become tsipouro (pure, transparent brandy, served out of the freezer).
The combos of wine-makers, varieties and vinyards should exclude any "accident"
Curious.
Not a fan of any white wine in the world other than Assyrtiko, personally
. Dunno.Sure.
Dunno
YES! Aged white Assyrtiko etc from Santorini! Pure Lava!
Dunno
YES!!! And, excellent value for money. Hard to go wrong with Thymiopoulos. I feel sorry for the poor man's margin of profit; he must be making pennies per bottle, in order for the bottle to reach you there at that price...
Dunno
Assyrtiko from Santorini = yes
Dunno
Renowned wine-maker. Don't know if it justifies its price.
For Nemea products, be it the indigenous Agiorgitiko or excellent Cabernet Sauvignon, my safe and blind vote has always gone to Papaioannou
I 'd happily drink both (the red basically) for half the price in Greece.
Dunno
Classic, staple labels. Hard to go wrong. Axia could be more year-dependent.
Both sound excellent for the reasons stated earlier.
Dunno
Hard to ever go wrong with Thymiopoulos. This a heretical place (Macedonian highlands) to cultivate the volcanic islander Assyrtiko variety from Santorini. Intriguing.
Dunno about the last two.
Big Jilm
4 of a Kind
K&L "pre-arrival" order was delivered today from TEN MONTHS ago!
Last week Rochioli, this week Selyem
For being a cheaper Margaux, this is shining!
With Greek wine getting acknowledged the world over, we poor locals have issues with the rising prices.
Thankfully, you can still get un-bottled treasures for $15 to $25 per gallon (provocatively put that way by me)
Here's some un-bottled mighty Xinomavro, straight from the highlands of western Macedonia, accompanying a Saturday afternoon lunch, of traditional "lagana" bread, light creamy "sour"cheese from the Amari region of Crete (hence, "Amarino") and turkey ham.
Thankfully, you can still get un-bottled treasures for $15 to $25 per gallon (provocatively put that way by me)
Here's some un-bottled mighty Xinomavro, straight from the highlands of western Macedonia, accompanying a Saturday afternoon lunch, of traditional "lagana" bread, light creamy "sour"cheese from the Amari region of Crete (hence, "Amarino") and turkey ham.
This is *exactly* the problem with our locally produced wine as well. Over the last 30 years, they've generally developed a good reputation, so now it makes more sense for them to export and maximize profit. The only reason I don't support more local wine is because it's priced out of my range. I can find much better deals from Spain, Argentina, and New Zealand than anything local.
The question is how these basically developed western countries can achieve/afford lower prices for their products.
If their total production is huge and their cost is low, they could be "dumping" to force other producers out of the market.
France can certainly do that; they can cater to anybody from billionaires to the homeless.
What Saudi Arabia can do antytime and has indeed repeatedly done, with oil. But, unlike Saudi oil, how much can they suppress their cost in the absence of slavery?
In sharp contrast to slavery and serfdom, capitalism can be a funny and cute system, full of surprises
Indyscammer
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How was it? I have a bottle of the ‘01 Naps.
I was good not great. Very mellow, not as vibrant as Howell Mtn. Don’t think aging it more will improve it further.
Big Jilm
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Big Jilm
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That one was VERY dry. However, we are learning that we prefer Malbecs from Argentina over most other wines.
Have you tried any Cahors yet?
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