- Jul 21, 2017
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I'm sure a firearm would have diffused the situation.
I've learned over the years that being "right" in a situation like this is far less important than the piece of mind that comes with just not giving a shit about all the idiots and the stupid shit they do. Just let it go...
This.TLDR: Get a permit and carry, but stop honking unless you are letting someone know your car is there when they can’t see you.
Since I started carrying, I have noticed that my patience for other drivers has gone way up...because I have a responsibility to control my actions and my emotions. It’s no different than someone who doesn’t carry, but the stakes are much higher. It’s better to avoid conflict.
I don’t know if I would use a lethal response to a property crime.
Having a gun is fine in my book, but pulling out your phone first and recording is a much better thing to do rather than speaking or acting out. Many people think twice when you’re recording them.One of the good parts about carrying is it forces you to use good judgement and you will avoid confrontation at all costs. Well, let me be more specific and say if you are smart that’s what it does, there are stories everyday of stupid people doing stupid things, but it should calm you down to the point where you don’t honk back. I never could be the mature person on the road until I started carrying, I couldn’t let someone who cut me off or whatever go without honking or flipping the bird until I had that gun in my car. After that all of a sudden the last thing I wanted to do was start something, or escalate something somebody else started, because in all honesty I never want to have to shoot somebody.
what @FordPickup92 said is important to think about, just because you might have the ability to defend yourself with deadly force should the need ever arise you better hope you never need to. There is going to be the legal aspect you will have to negotiate- even the most righteous instances of self defense can cost you some money and time to get through. But also if you have to take someone’s life you are going to feel that if you are at all an empathetic person. It’s not going to feel good, and it’s something the average person will never forget and might never get over.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in 100% agreement with carrying and encourage everybody to do it. As the great warrior poet Dr Dre once opined “I ain't no bitch, neither/It's either my life or your life and I ain't leavin'/ I like breathin”. if its you or me I’m going to do everything possible for it to be you. But I’m a sensitive dude, and unless they were hurting my family at the time I know from experience it’s tough to watch another person in pain, even if that person had been trying to really hurt you right before.
I was in a situation a few summers ago where I ended up running over a person, I had gotten lazy about carrying over the years and didn’t keep anything in my work van because I am in and out of it so much during the day. I was attacked by three dudes, which turned out to be a case of mistaken identity (they had the wrong white work van), but the end result was I ran over one of the dudes getting away. Long story but the short part of it is the cops were there within 30 seconds of him going under my wheels so I was talking to cops not far from where dude was laying and his other two buddies are handcuffed. Listening to the guy screaming was tough, it was real tough, no matter how much I told myself there was no option, no matter how much the cops told me they believed me and all the witness statements were matching up with my story I was SCARED and sick to be in that position.
Dude ended up being fine, and looking back on it I hope he felt every broken bone he had, but that situation went nothing like I had ever pictured it happening.
I carry EVERYWHERE now because I didn’t like the feeling of legitimately fearing for my life and not having it, but I’m happy I didn’t have to kill a dude. It took me long enough to get rid of my anxiety about the whole situation and the bad feelings of what I had done to another person without having death be the outcome, I don’t want to deal with that again.
Let the gun be your reminder that you don’t need to honk back. That’s the most important thing it does for me besides just being there if I really need it, it keeps in my head I don’t want to ever have to touch it. and if that means swallowing my pride and not letting an inconsiderate asshole on the road know that they are an inconsiderate asshole by honking that’s a good thing.
Get one, learn it, and carry it-I think that’s our right and duty. But once you do start carrying it make it your life’s goal to NEVER have to use it.
Edit: @Highli99 and @monkeydog are saying the exact same thing while I was writing my mini book. It feels good knowing I’m not the only one who thinks like that.
I got my LTC last October & its been one of the best decisions I’ve made considering everything that’s going through right now. I really don’t think his actions would have been a good reason for you to shoot him unless he opened your door & tried to drag you out of tour vehicle. When carrying a gun on you, you really need to make sure that your life is being threatened in order to use your weapon. Bcz at the end of the day, you’re going to have to convince the jury that you feel that your life was in danger.Yesterday on the way into work I was the first car at a red light. There are three lanes at this red light. The right lane was blocked a bit further back with a utility vehicle doing work, so all the traffic going straight was funneled into the center lane I was in. The lane on the left was for left turns ONLY.
I'm sitting at the red light, when all of a sudden a new looking red Nissan GTR comes out of the left lane and jumps in front of me. So, of course, I honk.
When the light turns green, he fucking sits there. So I honk again, he doesn't move. I go to move right around him and he speeds up and swerves his car to block me, and I honk some more, knowing THAT will surely diffuse the situation (kinda like that middle aged lady in every fight video yelling STAAAAHHP! like that will fix it!)
When we get to the next red light, the guy jumps out of his car and walks to the back of it throwing his hands up with the classic "what's up bro, you want to fight?" pose.
I had just joined a gym in March and was ****this**** close to getting swoll when they shut them down. Then when they finally re-opened my gym had a fire and closed again! Had I achieved this swoll status I would've just stepped out of the car and flexed, the dude would've pissed himself, apologized and gotten back in his six-figure vehicle.
But, since that wasn't the case, I was thinking "I'm going to have to run this motherfucker over...." But then I thought "shit, I have a thousand-dollar deductible, I don't really want to be out a grand, especially since I'm on a bit of a downswing lately"
So anyway, he gets back in his car and goes after the light turns green and that was the end of it. But people are fucking crazy, especially in Florida and especially with all that's going on in the world.
I signed up for a class in early August for firearms safety and will have Jenn attend (I took a course in my teens up north but don't have the documentation anymore) and will take the course and then apply for our CCP's. Planning to purchase a 9mm and hoping to never need it, but don't want to be in a situation where I do need it and don't have it.
Oh yeah, noticed the car he was driving was using a dealer plate too. Not sure if he was doing a test-drive or if he works for a dealership.
I got my LTC last October & its been one of the best decisions I’ve made considering everything that’s going through right now. I really don’t think his actions would have been a good reason for you to shoot him unless he opened your door & tried to drag you out of tour vehicle. When carrying a gun on you, you really need to make sure that your life is being threatened in order to use your weapon. Bcz at the end of the day, you’re going to have to convince the jury that you feel that your life was in danger.
Pulling a gun is going all-in on a random hand against an unknown player. That's not your game.