jake8907
Sitting Out
Assuming I wanna run tournament with chip values 100/500/1000/5000 what would a starting stack look like? Also if I added t25 chips does that change things? Prolly 10-20k starting stack
Other variables needed:Assuming I wanna run tournament with chip values 100/500/1000/5000 what would a starting stack look like? Also if I added t25 chips does that change things? Prolly 10-20k starting stack
Hence my requirement of what are the blind levels. Without that information, all "recommendations" are suboptimal for the OP and just what works for the subsequent posters.IMO 12x25s is way too many. In my STT they are only on the table for four rounds.
Level | Blinds | ||
Small | Big | BB Ante | |
1 | 100 | 100 | 100 |
2 | 100 | 200 | 200 |
3 | 200 | 300 | 300 |
4 | 200 | 400 | 400 |
5 | 300 | 500 | 500 |
Break | |||
6 | 300 | 600 | 600 |
7 | 400 | 800 | 800 |
8 | 500 | 1,000 | 1,000 |
9 | 600 | 1,200 | 1,200 |
10 | 800 | 1,500 | 3,000 |
Break - Remove 100s | |||
11 | 1,000 | 2,000 | 2,000 |
12 | 1,500 | 2,500 | 2,500 |
13 | 1,500 | 3,000 | 3,000 |
14 | 2,000 | 4,000 | 4,000 |
15 | 2,500 | 5,000 | 5,000 |
Break - Remove 500s | |||
16 | 3,000 | 6,000 | 6,000 |
17 | 4,000 | 8,000 | 8,000 |
18 | 5,000 | 10,000 | 10,000 |
19 | 6,000 | 12,000 | 12,000 |
20 | 8,000 | 16,000 | 16,000 |
Break - Remove 1000s | |||
21 | 10,000 | 20,000 | 20,000 |
22 | 15,000 | 25,000 | 25,000 |
23 | 15,000 | 30,000 | 30,000 |
24 | 20,000 | 40,000 | 40,000 |
25 | 25,000 | 50,000 | 50,000 |
26 | 30,000 | 60,000 | 60,000 |
I don't use T25's, but I think your 20k is spot on @Eloe2000. I have a "larger-than-i-need" # of 500's, so I usually go 10-8-10-1 (my OCD balks at stacks of 11). My rule of thumb is to try and make sure my largest denom makes up less than 33% of the whole stack. I always seem to run into less issues making change that way.I am currently working on a custom set that covers both T25/10K as well as T100/20K games.
I actually prefer 12/12/5/6 for T25 base 10K tournaments but if you want to use less chips, this works…
View attachment 768828
200 white
140 red
100 blue
100 green
60 black
15 x $100 (white) --> $1500
7 x $500 (green) --> $3500
10 x $1000 (red) --> $10000
1 x $5000 (black) --> $5000
15 * 9 = 135 whites
7 * 9 = 63 greens
10 * 9 = 90 reds
1 * 9 = 9 blacks
20 min levels?This is my current setup for a 25k starting stack is:
100 x 10
500 x 6
1000 x 11
5000 x 2
I have enough chips to accommodate 30 players with color-ups for a freeze-out style tourney which is pretty much all we play.
This is my blind structure:
Level Blinds Small Big BB Ante 1 100 100 100 2 100 200 200 3 200 300 300 4 200 400 400 5 300 500 500 Break 6 300 600 600 7 400 800 800 8 500 1,000 1,000 9 600 1,200 1,200 10 800 1,500 3,000 Break - Remove 100s 11 1,000 2,000 2,000 12 1,500 2,500 2,500 13 1,500 3,000 3,000 14 2,000 4,000 4,000 15 2,500 5,000 5,000 Break - Remove 500s 16 3,000 6,000 6,000 17 4,000 8,000 8,000 18 5,000 10,000 10,000 19 6,000 12,000 12,000 20 8,000 16,000 16,000 Break - Remove 1000s 21 10,000 20,000 20,000 22 15,000 25,000 25,000 23 15,000 30,000 30,000 24 20,000 40,000 40,000 25 25,000 50,000 50,000 26 30,000 60,000 60,000
I also have enough chips to add a 25k chip to each stack for a 50k starting stack and use the same structure but remove the 100/100 level. None of my games are designed to run less than 5 hours.
I ordered a cards mold tourney set a while back for T100 base with some extra chips in the count just in case some break in transit which none have:What are your chip breakdowns? I'm kind of curious about T100 base tournament set breakdowns and want to try one for a home game.
How many 25k chips do you folks like to use?
When betting, you never need more than one T500 chip, so you simply do not need many of them.100 x 10
500 x 6
1000 x 11
5000 x 2
Why does the third demonization (1000) tend to have a higher starting count then the second (500)? Is it to keep the starting chip count lower?
Because you dont need as many T500's since you have T1k's that are just 2x in value. It's more economically efficient to have fewer T500s to make room for higher denominations or maybe more blinds chips (T100) since you need many to accommodate many players and blind structures that require them.100 x 10
500 x 6
1000 x 11
5000 x 2
Why does the third demonization (1000) tend to have a higher starting count then the second (500)? Is it to keep the starting chip count lower?
I'd say it works, but I'd balk at saying it works "fine".Some have they're denominations go from T500 to T2k and still works fine
I personally much prefer T1k. I was just pointing out that I've seen sets here have T100/T500/T2k/T10k denominations the owners liked or prefered.I'd say it works, but I'd balk at saying it works "fine".
When counting stacks of chips, people don't always do multiples of two very well. Starting from zero, sure. 2-4-6-8-etc. It flows off the tongue like we've been doing it since preschool.
Adding onto an existing bet of T1000. really messes up the show. 1000, 3000, 5000, 7000 - it requires a beat of thought between each calculation. Add to that the stress of making a tournament-risking bet, being a little inebriated, or simply brain dead from a late night at the end of a hellacious work week, and you are just killing the enjoyment with a T2000.
But wait, there's more...
I have yet to play in a full tournament using T2000 chips where there wasn't someone that made a bet thinking the T2000 was just T1000 - and that's just what was caught when the verbal declaration did not match the chips put out. How many more estimated an opponent's stack forgetting the stack of T2000s weren't T1000s? How about silently making a pot-sized bet only to discover you are over-betting the pot by 2x? Of course, this error goes away as you become more familiar with the T2000 chip, but you are putting any new player in an awkward position by having a non-standard chip.