JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
I would put more faith in this than astrology. Or Myers-Briggs. (Which is just astrology for people with business degrees.)
Poker vs Bridge Size (2 Viewers)
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I am sure that is true.
But if you give up on something in a few hours, it has no chance to stick.
The analogy I’ve used before is when newspapers or magazines do redesigns. (Dating myself here—no one reads print anymore, I know.)
Anytime a publication redesigns itself, there is always a portion of the readership—maybe 20%—who hates it.
No matter how much better the new design is.
And that 20% is the portion of the readership which writes angry letters and makes irate phone calls to the editor about it.
Then they get used to it and forget there was ever a different design.
Then 10 years go by. The publication changes the design again. Same people defend the “old” design which was the new design they hated.
Rinse, repeat.
Yes if we’re talking about French suited cards, then red/black variant applies. Have a look at this Bavarian/German suits; as far as I’m concerned they’re quite older than French suits. I’m not saying you could play Poker with thembut you know.
The printing of those cards suggest they were made much later than the French and English two-color decks which became standard worldwide very quickly. (Are these reproductions?)
For example, rounded corners weren’t even a thing until the mid-19th century iirc.
But yes, there were multicolor decks way back, including handcolored ones. But those were for people who could afford them, as I understand it, and could not be mass-produced as readily, and so disappeared for a long time.
Now it does not effectively cost more to print cards with 52 colors than just two. (Not that that would be good.)
P.S. I would bet that when plastic cards were invented, there were many seasoned card players who hated them and demanded rooms stick with paper.
(There was also a time when playing cards had no numerals or letters, and no corner indices. People played card games that way for a very long time. And I again would bet there was a lot of grumbling about the newfangled card designs... But innovative designs won out.)
Bridge size cards work so much better for "circus" games, especially with some combination of 5 or 6 hole cards, 2-3 boards, up cards, and a big pot, all vying for the same space near the center of the table.
Jumbo index so I can read up-cards and boards.
Two-color decks because, depending on the light, I have trouble reading the irridescent cards.
No 4-index cards because I tend to read boards incorrectly. I'll blame that on playing cards for, um, for a very long time.
I understand that Phil Ivey likes full-bleed backs.
Not that I'm overly picky or anything like that. . . .
That said, whatever the cards or chips, deal me in!!!
Jumbo index so I can read up-cards and boards.
Two-color decks because, depending on the light, I have trouble reading the irridescent cards.
No 4-index cards because I tend to read boards incorrectly. I'll blame that on playing cards for, um, for a very long time.
I understand that Phil Ivey likes full-bleed backs.
Not that I'm overly picky or anything like that. . . .
That said, whatever the cards or chips, deal me in!!!
I just love full bleed backs. They have an old timey feel to them, but also a timeless, brandless feel. I was watching an old All in the Family last night and Archie and Edith were playing cards and they were full bleed.
RocAFella1
Royal Flush
There’s a reason why a majority of casinos/poker rooms use bridge they should be called poker size and poker size should be called magnum size
RocAFella1
Royal Flush
@SproutyI must have magnum hands then
I guess I'm a BJ4. Shit, that could be interpreted so many ways....
Yes, they’re modern Piatnik; you can get them even now. I mean to just show suit design not actual antique cards.
You’re right about those corners, also first cards had a white/ parchment colour backs, no designs. They had to change this and redesign it because otherwise cards quickly became self marked and more prone for taking advantage by cheaters.
Ps. I do hate plastic cards
Well said!
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Well now we back toward TT v AK.I think we are better than a flip and closer to AJ v KQ territory
Another factor is manual shuffling, where bridge size is superior for men's hands and imperative for women's hands.
But you can skip that issue by using even the cheapest shuffling machine. If it breaks down, you buy another.
So, back to good old poker size, which allows 4 jumbo pips, useful for people with mental issues like me (left-handed forced to write with their right hand back in medieval schools, and confusing 6s with 9s). Or just people suffering from dyslexia.
But you can skip that issue by using even the cheapest shuffling machine. If it breaks down, you buy another.
So, back to good old poker size, which allows 4 jumbo pips, useful for people with mental issues like me (left-handed forced to write with their right hand back in medieval schools, and confusing 6s with 9s). Or just people suffering from dyslexia.
LeLe
4 of a Kind
Magnum Index! The GOAT
They’re so bad that actually I want them!
...here's the opposite side of the spectrum
LeLe
4 of a Kind
drdr
3 of a Kind
I've never noticed any difference in shuffling difficulty. Bit bemused that is even a concern. I guess that's why I can't see an advantage to bridge over poker size.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
It's more of a repetitive thing for dedicated dealers. If you rotate the deal and only deal 6 hands in a night you wouldn't notice the difference, if you deal 200 hands a day, it's definitely easier on your hands to handle the skinner cards.
Really though? For a skilled hands this should make no difference.
I would not be surprised if casinos are using bridge sized cards only because in bulk buy they are cheaper; and after time this become “standard”. But I can be wrong as well.
I’ve seen the speculation that bridge cards are cheaper for casinos, but I’ve never seen it confirmed. Color me skeptical.
drdr
3 of a Kind
Maybe they need bridge for other table games. Two sizes would mean more stock management and maybe lower bulk discount.
From what I’ve seen, it works the other way. I don’t play a lot of table games, but don’t they usually use poker size paper cards - the exact opposite of what they use on the poker tables?
drdr
3 of a Kind
I confess I don't know. I've only been in Aussie casinos and there isn't many of them and haven't noticed a range of cards.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
I sometimes center deal my home games it is definitely a different grip with the wider cards. Pro dealers I have spoken with notice a difference too, for whatever it's worth.
centre deal… the only deal that was never used by any card sharp ever; it’s not valid test to run. I honestly would struggle more to do bottom deal with bridge cards than poker.
But this isn’t usual deal, if you’re dealing cards as you should size of cards absolutely does not matter.
But this isn’t usual deal, if you’re dealing cards as you should size of cards absolutely does not matter.
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