My group is getting older (this happens when the game has run for 17 years) so we are all about jumbo. I don't personally care either way about bridge vs poker. The size difference isn't really all that much IMHO. I have to get in the 4 color deck camp, though. The number of times guys have gone on a rant regarding misreading the board pushed me that direction so I have some 4 color sets. Unfortunately, none of the groups I play with want to use them so they just sit on my shelf unopened.
Poker vs Bridge Size (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Egonz
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Funny thing, I lost a good sized pot not long ago because I confused a spade and a club. But my solution was to either use decks with clearer suits or keep my reading glasses handy or both. But I swear I never even considered a 4-color setup and I happen to own a nice one. I just think they’re ugly and I suspect my players would revolt. They’re not even a consideration.
I get the logic, and if someone really needed the 4-color to make out the suits, then fine. I just don’t like the look of them. Feels weird and cheap. Wonderful to have online if multitabling, but live I don’t think it’s enough of an issue.
I don't really care as a player, the hole cards are peeked at then left on the table so why does it matter?
Vegas poker rooms and WSOP all use bridge size (at least where I play). That's what I'm accustomed to and I like the smaller storage space of bridge size so that's where my vote went.
From a dealer's perspective I've been told that bridge size is generally easier to handle. But a minority of dealers prefer poker size for indexing.
Anyone voting for bridge size should be taking advantage of the deal on Broken Arrow cards
@justincarothers
Vegas poker rooms and WSOP all use bridge size (at least where I play). That's what I'm accustomed to and I like the smaller storage space of bridge size so that's where my vote went.
From a dealer's perspective I've been told that bridge size is generally easier to handle. But a minority of dealers prefer poker size for indexing.
Anyone voting for bridge size should be taking advantage of the deal on Broken Arrow cards
@justincarothers
It’s absolutely fine when comes down to the preferences or lack of choices; for ages only cards available commonly in UK were bridge Waddingtons or sometimes bridge Piatnik’s. Poker Bicycle were hard to come by and used mostly by magicians.
But when I hear whinging how hard and painful is to handle poker size makes me laugh.
As a man who handle poker cards for 2/3h a day i have never encounter any discomfort, I know poker size seems to be big and unwieldy at the beginning but you can adjust to that.
If anyone thinks that shuffling cards causes pain maybe you can’t doing it properly or having wrong technique?
But when I hear whinging how hard and painful is to handle poker size makes me laugh.
As a man who handle poker cards for 2/3h a day i have never encounter any discomfort, I know poker size seems to be big and unwieldy at the beginning but you can adjust to that.
If anyone thinks that shuffling cards causes pain maybe you can’t doing it properly or having wrong technique?
It's. Only. A. Quarter. Inch. Difference. FFS.
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RocAFella1
Royal Flush
Size matters.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
I am absolutely team bridge size just for ease of shuffling.
I am apparently in the minority because I prefer standard index because it's easier to protect your hand, but I have lost that war, even in my home game.
I am apparently in the minority because I prefer standard index because it's easier to protect your hand, but I have lost that war, even in my home game.
grandmeme
3 of a Kind
You aren't alone. I prefer standard index for games other than hold em, since I don't want to look like a moron peeling half my cards up to see if it's a spade.
jquizo
Sitting Out
i do like 4-color deck when I play on apps/online and multi-tabling. Just makes it easier to glance and not make mistakes
Was there ever a bigger fail than poker peek? I have a setup that’s best to start fires with.
I was solidly in this camp until nearly all of our player's eyes (including mine) grew old.
So now it's bridge size jumbo index -- a minor concession to hand safety vs being able to better distinguish cards at a distance. Still prefer bridge size standard index for heads-up play. Bridge size is easier to shuffle and deal, and easier to manage for multiple card/board circus and stud games.
And no gimmick decks, period. That includes four-color, four-pip, poker-peek, magnum Index, non-white backgrounds (black or clear), circular shape cards, or decks with funky-design fonts, court pictures, and layouts. No need to reinvent the wheel, imo.
I also dislike full-bleed backs, but they aren't deal-breakers for play -- I just don't buy 'em.
What is this “bridge” you speak of?
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Understood, and when I said "I lost that war, even in my home game" it was pretty much for this exact reason.
If I wear my glasses, I have no problem with standard index at a distance, but part of hosting is sometimes giving the players what they want.
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grandmeme
3 of a Kind
Jumbo sizes matter. Desjgn has it done perfect, even if I prefer the blackjack index. KEM's jumbo index can go straight into the bin.
Me too. But I wear my reading glasses for most of the day. I’d rather not wear them for another 6 hours at the card table. Especially when there are perfectly good cards that I (and the other oldies) can read without them.
Said it before and I’ll say it again:
Two-color decks only exist today because of the economics of producing decks ***hundreds of years ago.***
Even when it became possible to mass-produce cards, it was still very laborious and expensive to use multiple inks.
Being attached to a standard that old is silly, especially when the standard was arbitrary or forced by the limits of totally outmoded technology.
It makes about as much sense as getting offended that the other players at the table aren’t wearing giant powdered wigs.
Or that there isn’t a wax seal, a tax stamp and string protecting each fresh deck.
The only reason to prefer two-color is habit. And it’s an easy habit to break, worth doing because four-colors have a clear usability advantage.
We have digital print technology now that allows for as many colors or design innovations as one likes. We should use it.
Two-color decks only exist today because of the economics of producing decks ***hundreds of years ago.***
Even when it became possible to mass-produce cards, it was still very laborious and expensive to use multiple inks.
Being attached to a standard that old is silly, especially when the standard was arbitrary or forced by the limits of totally outmoded technology.
It makes about as much sense as getting offended that the other players at the table aren’t wearing giant powdered wigs.
Or that there isn’t a wax seal, a tax stamp and string protecting each fresh deck.
The only reason to prefer two-color is habit. And it’s an easy habit to break, worth doing because four-colors have a clear usability advantage.
We have digital print technology now that allows for as many colors or design innovations as one likes. We should use it.
So those that like JDesign cards do not mind the messy ink blot on aces but won’t go four color? What am I missing here.
A four color deck assaults my eyes at every glance. An odd symbol on the aces? Not so much.
That doesn’t make it any less displeasing to the eye. If you want to introduce 4-color decks to the next generation from birth, I’m sure they’d be great with them. But those of us who have been staring at normal decks for all of our long lives who find 4-color decks borderline offensive - it’s not logical, but it is what it is.
Yes if we’re talking about French suited cards, then red/black variant applies. Have a look at this Bavarian/German suits; as far as I’m concerned they’re quite older than French suits. I’m not saying you could play Poker with them
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4SUMERZ
Flush
That's what she said!!!
RocAFella1
Royal Flush
That left one is nsfwYes if we’re talking about French suited cards, then red/black variant applies. Have a look at this Bavarian/German suits; as far as I’m concerned they’re quite older than French suits. I’m not saying you could play Poker with them
4SUMERZ
Flush
Agree...I have a set of Copag Poker Peek Index that hasn't been used in years
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
I agree and I think I would personally have no issue playing with a live four-color deck.
The thing is gamblers are creatures of habit and there is no such thing as "an easy habit to break." There are more than a few stories of live rooms that have tried this only to bring back the old decks after a few hours. I'm not saying the switch will never happen, but it's anything but easy. It's probably something the next generation that is accustom to 4-color decks on screen moreso than my generation will have to demand.
This is in the category of playing at a table with electronic banking instead of chips. That's not going to be accepted in the near future either.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
I think we are better than a flip and closer to AJ v KQ territory
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This is like one of this personality tests. Oh I’m a PS2
(Poker Size, Standard Index, 2 color)
I can’t imagine anything worse than 4 color jumbo. Yuck. Stay away BJ4!
(Poker Size, Standard Index, 2 color)
I can’t imagine anything worse than 4 color jumbo. Yuck. Stay away BJ4!
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