'Degen Lite' if you please, I still have to go to work Mondays and pay a mortgage. Full degen is under the overpass picking up used scratchies hoping for a winner that got tossed.
"Big" PLO8 Hand Online - Biggest Pot in the Game for the Last 12 Months (1 Viewer)
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'Degen Lite' if you please, I still have to go to work Mondays and pay a mortgage. Full degen is under the overpass picking up used scratchies hoping for a winner that got tossed.
Legend5555
Full House
This.I figured UTG was gonna show up with, but him having the clubs too, yowza!
This is kind of the problem with going "top set nuts, POT" against 2 players that show no interest in folding. You have to imagine a good chunk of the time you are against both flush draws and some straight draws. We are far from a lock on high and don't have a low yet. So again, if we were heads up, we can totally go for it. But multiway? It's pretty sketchy.
You're not ready for this level of poker..
Sir.. please remove yourself from this thread..
"How to play JJ in $20 tournament" Strat thread is calling you
Anthony Martino
Royal Flush
Ah, the "Degen Dream"
In big o u r always going against other big hands. double nut flush draw looks more scary that it is. many of his outs give u a chop. u have the best lo draw and the nuts right now. I still take ur hand. Get it all in and sleep well no matter what happens. And If a black 4 comes just blame the dealer.
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MrCatPants
Full House
surprised no one has yet brought up maniac going bananas with bottom set
moose
4 of a Kind
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
My thoughts. Play 4 card. This game lets too many fish win. By adding a 5th card It takes away skills and some of my plays/knowledge/this game sucks unless you have one of the top 12 starting hands out of of 17 million possible or some of those hustler players drunk and deep.No need for the attacks - just laying out the hand as I played for discussion.
With the pot where it was, I got over my #4 mentally and came to the conclusion that any of the A4xxx nut flush draw hands aren't folding if I jam now, and neither are the low or high wrap draws. Maybe set of 10s folds. That said, if the board pairs, I'm likely getting folds from everyone except if 10s continue, and so might as well get the money in now and maybe possibly get a fold from one player.
SB: ABC Player - $100
BB: Ultimate TAG, winningest player at the game - $100
UTG: Experienced player with shades of a calling station - $140
MP: Hero, blended TAG/LAG image - $220
CO: Skeptical player, overcalls because he is always sure he is being bluffed - $60
BT: Maniac, raises 85% of hands pre-flop in position - $170 stack
UTG flats .50
HERO looks down at
HERO FLATS .50
CO folds
BT pots to 2.25
SB folds
BB calls 2.25
UTG calls 2.25
HERO CALLS 2.25
POT is 9.25
Flop is
BB checks
UTG checks
HERO checks
BT pots 9.25
BB folds
UTG calls 9.25
Hero makes a stupid call because he's stuck like $200.
Turn brings the exact card someone called for,
Pot is $37
UTG bets $15
Hero calls $15
Maniac raises to $50
UTG calls $50
HERO All-In for a little over $100 effective
Maniac snap calls
UTG tanks and calls
Hands table automatically on our poker mavens server on an all in:
UTG tables:(Ok, makes sense, both nut flush draws and a wheel draw/second low draw
We still have:
Maniac button tables:(OESD on the top, bottom set, q high flush draw, ok...)
So we've got maniac drawing to 3 outs for a scoop, and 2 more outs for a split
UTG drawing to about as many cards as I am for the high or a split
Curious thoughts on others actions before I share the river.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
I couldn't disagree with you more.
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MrCatPants
Full House
I agree with your disagreement - fish get smashed against scoop hands way more often in 5 card. In 4 card, fish's emergency lows and highs often still end up taking half by the river when the person was cripplingly behind post flop.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
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MrCatPants
Full House
I agreed with you though! So if I'm wrong you're wrongThat's fine. You are also allowed to be wrong
Stufflymcstuff
Flush
What percentile do you or others think this hand is?
Below is for pl08 4 card - doesn’t directly correspond but I’d say ajj4 with a suited aces is pretty close to being equivalent.
http://www.propokertools.com/orderings/o8ordering.txt
“A hand ordering for 10-handed omaha-hi/lo generated via an evolution program.
Hands are listed in descending order of profitability.
Cards of the same suit are listed in parentheses.”
It’s a bit better than 15th percentile and equivalent to the following hands (suited in brackets). It’s slightly better than A2s with a bunch of uncoordinated cards.
A(J2)5
A(QJ)3
(A7)(82)
(A8)(62)
(AJ)J4
(AQ5)3
A(32)2
(A2)J8
(A9)AJ
AAA7
(A9)K2
(A5)(73)
Obv 15% is good but (if you were talking about back raising) you’re not up against people who have any two but their ranges are way tighter than any 2.
It’s also not the same as raising in hold em - equities run pretty close pre. It’s really not a bad thing to let in those wonky mid pair type hands as those are the few hands that are actually major equity dogs, and the people who limp with them will end up getting dragged along trying to sometimes win half the pot.
If you’re pushing an edge here it’s a very small one because equities run pretty close to begin with, and if you actually think this is a soft game you’ll do way better having more behind.
kirchhausen
Flush
so we are in pretty good shape with 53% equity.
CrazyEddie
Full House
They're all in, equities have been calculated, Hero came out a big winner (53% equity getting 2-to-1). Hand's over. Choose whatever ending makes you happy.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
I agreed with you though! So if I'm wrong you're wrong
Then that makes you right lol.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
Patience........
Legend5555
Full House
detroitdad
Royal Flush
Hosting a Dealers Choice game tomorrow night. A local PCF pro, @WedgeRock will be in attendance. I need to study up so that I will have a chance against him.
If I had any patience I would be capable of playing holdem….. which I am not (in case anyone was not aware).
SpaceMonkey420
Full House
The problem you didn’t recognize is the fish don’t fold and often are given too many outs. They just never fold at 33%. I pass on big0 when offered 4. PLO or PLO8 are still the greatest games in my book, and they won’t call with 33%; ship it.
Chippy McChiperson
4 of a Kind
Shouldn't pot be 2.75?Let's continue. Some of you are maniacs, too, in my opinion
Late in the night and only 6 people left, Big PLO8 (5 card PLO8) is the game. .25/.50, poker mavens online with my regular crew.
SB: ABC Player - $100
BB: Ultimate TAG, winningest player at the game - $100
UTG: Experienced player with shades of a calling station - $140
MP: Hero, blended TAG/LAG image - $220
CO: Skeptical player, overcalls because he is always sure he is being bluffed - $60
BT: Maniac, raises 85% of hands pre-flop in position - $170 stack
UTG flats .50
HERO looks down at
HERO FLATS .50
CO folds
BT pots to 2.25
SB folds
BB calls 2.25
UTG calls 2.25
Pot is 7.50
Action on HERO
Preserves?
I'd say it's more likely jam than preserves.
From the innerweb'z:
Jam is a thick spread made from fruit juice, chopped, crushed, or puréed fruit, and sugar. ... Preserves are another thick fruit spread made from fruit cooked with sugar, but in this case, large pieces of the fruit, or the whole fruit (as in the case of berries), are suspended in a firm jelly or less-gelled syrupy base.
kirchhausen
Flush
What’s the difference between jam and jelly?
no one at a meatup ever says “well this pot ain’t gonna jelly itself“
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MrCatPants
Full House
Final card? Red 9. JJJ scoops.
What was the total pot?
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