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Question for the keg & wet bars guys @CraigT78 @Old State

How did you guys run your beer lines from the kegerator to the bar top mounted tower? I've built several kegerators but those all had the tower directly mounted to the top of the mini fridge, so this is slightly new territory for me. Here's what I was thinking of doing:

Cut outs for drip tray and tower lines, the top of the mini fridge is about 4" below the counter surface:
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I found a piece of pvc pipe that will fit just inside tower, I was thinking if running this through the hole in the counter, down to the hole (not there yet) in the top of the fridge, putting a little putty on the end of the pipe to help seal it.

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I don't plan on adding a fan to force chill the tower but I thought this would work to keep everything relatively sealed. Any thoughts, feedback or other recommendations?

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Question for the keg & wet bars guys @CraigT78 @Old State

How did you guys run your beer lines from the kegerator to the bar top mounted tower? I've built several kegerators but those all had the tower directly mounted to the top of the mini fridge, so this is slightly new territory for me. Here's what I was thinking of doing:

Cut outs for drip tray and tower lines, the top of the mini fridge is about 4" below the counter surface:

I found a piece of pvc pipe that will fit just inside tower, I was thinking if running this through the hole in the counter, down to the hole (not there yet) in the top of the fridge, putting a little putty on the end of the pipe to help seal it.

I don't plan on adding a fan to force chill the tower but I thought this would work to keep everything relatively sealed. Any thoughts, feedback or other recommendations?
I used PVC - not sure what type, it's thin. Inserted it up through the beer line hole, into the keg tower.
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Then I put insulation into the tower. 1/4 inch black neoprene like stuff, probably for pipes.

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This was all good, but I was always getting a foamy first pour, so I ended up adding a forced blower, which kept my inside air temp more stable, and also keeps the beer faucets and shanks cold. Every pour is now perfect.
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So it looks like you have the right idea - spray paint that PVC black, and you won't even see it under there.
 

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I used PVC - not sure what type, it's thin. Inserted it up through the beer line hole, into the keg tower.
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Then I put insulation into the tower. 1/4 inch black neoprene like stuff, probably for pipes.

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This was all good, but I was always getting a foamy first pour, so I ended up adding a forced blower, which kept my inside air temp more stable, and also keeps the beer faucets and shanks cold. Every pour is now perfect.
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So it looks like you have the right idea - spray paint that PVC black, and you won't even see it under there.
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I used PVC - not sure what type, it's thin. Inserted it up through the beer line hole, into the keg tower.
View attachment 246643
Then I put insulation into the tower. 1/4 inch black neoprene like stuff, probably for pipes.

View attachment 246642
This was all good, but I was always getting a foamy first pour, so I ended up adding a forced blower, which kept my inside air temp more stable, and also keeps the beer faucets and shanks cold. Every pour is now perfect.
View attachment 246644

So it looks like you have the right idea - spray paint that PVC black, and you won't even see it under there.
Awesome dude, thanks for the details and pics, that's a huge help!
 

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Question for the keg & wet bars guys @CraigT78 @Old State

How did you guys run your beer lines from the kegerator to the bar top mounted tower? I've built several kegerators but those all had the tower directly mounted to the top of the mini fridge, so this is slightly new territory for me. Here's what I was thinking of doing:

Cut outs for drip tray and tower lines, the top of the mini fridge is about 4" below the counter surface:
View attachment 246629

I found a piece of pvc pipe that will fit just inside tower, I was thinking if running this through the hole in the counter, down to the hole (not there yet) in the top of the fridge, putting a little putty on the end of the pipe to help seal it.

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I don't plan on adding a fan to force chill the tower but I thought this would work to keep everything relatively sealed. Any thoughts, feedback or other recommendations?

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This is basically how mine is set up too. My lower bar top was close enough to the top of the kegerator as to not require the PVC solution you have. The hole in the top of the kegerator was already there with a plug in it. There were also pilot holes to mount a tower. Instead I found a metal flange that had the same spaced holes for screws. I attached that and it took up the space under the bar. I wrapped the two kegs lines in foam pipe insulation.

Also, I too made a beer tower cooler.

Hopefully when this thing kicks the bucket I will be able to get another kegerator that will line up.

Looks like you have a good set up. Just make sure you leave space around the kegerator for it to move air as it is not an under counter model. Neither is mine, but we built in a 4” gap behing the lower bar for air to move. Not sure if you can make that out in the picture.


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This is basically how mine is set up too. My lower bar top was close enough to the top of the kegerator as to not require the PVC solution you have. The hole in the top of the kegerator was already there with a plug in it. There were also pilot holes to mount a tower. Instead I found a metal flange that had the same spaced holes for screws. I attached that and it took up the space under the bar. I wrapped the two kegs lines in foam pipe insulation.

Also, I too made a beer tower cooler.

Hopefully when this thing kicks the bucket I will be able to get another kegerator that will line up.

Looks like you have a good set up. Just make sure you leave space around the kegerator for it to move air as it is not an under counter model. Neither is mine, but we built in a 4” gap behing the lower bar foe air to move. Not sure if you can make that out in the picture.


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Thanks and nice setup, much appreciated. I left 3+" in the back and on each side of the fridge for air circulation so it should be good.:tup:

Edit to add: the bar top on this is a little higher than standard because I have the flush mounted drip tray, so I need a couple of extra inches for the drain.
 

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If its not too late, I highly recommend getting an under the counter refrigerator that exhausts out of the front kick panel. The ones that exhaust out the back are typically not made for under the counter use. The hot air gets trapped under the counter and the inside temp of frig suffers and it runs for longer period of times. I stopped using the one I got for under my wet bar. Was going to get a front exhaust one but ended up with a full size one in my laundry room which is right next to my wet bar. My under the counter frig is just for decoration now. :)
 

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If its not too late, I highly recommend getting an under the counter refrigerator that exhausts out of the front kick panel. The ones that exhaust out the back are typically not made for under the counter use. The hot air gets trapped under the counter and the inside temp of frig suffers and it runs for longer period of times. I stopped using the one I got for under my wet bar. Was going to get a front exhaust one but ended up with a full size one in my laundry room which is right next to my wet bar. My under the counter frig is just for decoration now. :)
Being a commercial food equip tech / sales guy this statement is totally true, good suggestion @Tommy
 

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Being a commercial food equip tech / sales guy this statement is totally true, good suggestion @Tommy
This is my plan as well...once these things go. I got the kegerator, a bar fridge, and a wine fridge for free from a points program at work. Figured I would use them until they broke and then buy front venting ones. Knock on wood, five years later and they are all still working. When I stick my hand under my top bar and over the venting area I can feel the heat when the compressors are on. Not bad but it makes me glad I made that design feature. I also have an inch or two around the front, sides, and bottom of each unit, but I think the venting out the top back is the key to creating a natural draft for airflow.
 

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If its not too late, I highly recommend getting an under the counter refrigerator that exhausts out of the front kick panel. The ones that exhaust out the back are typically not made for under the counter use. The hot air gets trapped under the counter and the inside temp of frig suffers and it runs for longer period of times. I stopped using the one I got for under my wet bar. Was going to get a front exhaust one but ended up with a full size one in my laundry room which is right next to my wet bar. My under the counter frig is just for decoration now. :)
Being a commercial food equip tech / sales guy this statement is totally true, good suggestion @Tommy
Understood, but I do already have both mini refrigerators (both the same as the one pictured). When I started researching this 2 years ago, I was running into 2 problems - keg clearance and price. These Danby units are very popular for keg conversions, with a few pretty easy modifications, you can fit two home brew corny kegs in them (and a 5lb CO2 cylinder, though I think I'm going to store mine outside in the cabinet). They have minimal electrical or coolant lines in the top & sides, so as long you double check them they're easy to drill through for the beer lines, CO2 hose, and temperature control/fan wiring. They also only run $200. I built my first kegerator out of an earlier version of this unit, it ran for 10 years in a similar configuration (under cabinet but with 2"-3" clear) before I stupidly chinked a coolant line trying to remove some built up frost :banghead::banghead::banghead:. The built-in compact refrigerators with the front vents are really nice, the problem with most was for a unit with the same height, the kegs didn't fit due to the front venting system reducing the vertical clearance. Most of the built-in units are commercial grade and started at $800-$900, and the ones that are designed for kegs to allow for the extra clearance inside were well over a grand. For my humble setup, I know these Danby units work well, and even if I only get 5-10 years out of them and then have to replace them, I'm good with that. :)
 
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The last week or so work has been primarily on the liquor and glassware cabinets that will go above the chip displays and the trim work around the sink, tap, & drip tray.

Trim
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Test fit (i have a little over 1/16" to spare lol)
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Cabinets ready for the face frames
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I also spent a little time figuring out how to fill in the areas between the chip displays. I thought with all the stained cabinets that the look of the bar was getting a little too rich/dark, so I orderd a piece of curly maple to go between the chip displays. No stain for these accent pieces, just poly.

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These little areas are here to house the electrical boxes for 2 outlets for any bar top appliances (coffee maker / ice maker / hot dog roller) and two switches for the display and under cabinet lights.

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Staining and finishing everything this week with the hopes of getting them installed and wired over the weekend. :tup:
 
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