Unique or Custom Molds - Where do you find/get them? (1 Viewer)

[Talrem]

Greetings, Programs!
I‘d like to inquire about custom mold designs, or molds that are unique to a maker, and which company would you go to if you wanted to make a custom chip set?
I‘ve been thinking about designing the inlay for a custom set and possibly a custom mold design. I saw cards, fans, dragons, unicorns, etc… so many to count! Are there any companies that would produce a custom mold and unique baked-in inlays?

How much would a set like that cost for 1000 chips? 2000? 2500? (I’m sure it’s cheaper when bought in bulk.)

Thanks for the info i’m advance!

 

[GianThaMan]

If you want a custom mold and baked-in inlays you’d need clays, and the custom mold alone could run you about $50k from CPC. If you just want a custom mold and the inlay would be a sticker put on it or a printed center, as in ceramic hybrids/ceramics, you’re looking at a minimum of $2000 for the mold plus maybe about $0.30/chip from a cheap alibaba supplier. There’s also a few choices in between, but that’s the general gist. If I were you, I’d stick to stock molds, unless doing a group buy.

 

[wolfpack]

you can get a custom mold on ceramics for around $4,000 believe from sunfly.

 

[warma]

Roughly $3K from Matsui to design a custom inner ring

 

[Johnblue]

http://www.pokerchipsonline.com/

This company makes custom clay chips. They are the only company that makes custom clay chips that sells to the public.

they have a bunch of unique molds to choose from, but they only print one mold at a time, and they mainly sell to us, so it’s here on this forum where you find out the mold printing schedule, some of the molds only run once a year or less.

there is a custom poker chip design tool with all of their molds, colors and spot combinations here. So much fun.

http://www.pokerchipdesigntool.com/

There is a forum here for talking about custom chips, people will help you fine tune your designs once you get started.

you are in the right place. Good luck.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Paulson makes custom molds for their customers all the time - this is how casinos get "house molds" unique to their own chips - but of course Paulson, now part of GPI, now only sells to casinos. Back when they still sold to the public, a retailer called Sidepot Gaming had a new mold designed and used it to produce a line of chips which Sidepot then sold, which is how the Le Paulson Noir line of chips came to be. You can read about it here.

With Paulson and BCC now part of GPI, and with TRK out of business, only CPC still manufacturers and sells custom clay chips to the public. David Spragg of CPC has stated that making a new mold that works with the CPC equipment would cost anywhere from $25,000 to $75,000, which he believes would be completely economically unfeasible. You can read about it here, in the context of making a new Roman mold, but he's mentioned similar numbers in other posts as well.

As @wolfpack mentioned you can order a custom mold from Sun-Fly for their PolyClay line of ceramic chips, which are ceramic chips with full-face dye-sublimation printing and debossed molded designs around the rim. Similarly, PCF has recently taken a big interest in low-cost ceramic chips from various Ali Baba vendors, which collectively get referred to as "cards mold" chips. Like the PolyClays these are ceramic chips with full-face dye-sublimation printing and debossed molded designs around the rim, and at least one of the vendors offers custom molds. Some of us have recently speculated about a group buy using a new mold custom-designed for that purpose, either from Sun-Fly or one of the Ali Baba vendors; you can read about it here.

And as @warma mentioned you can get casino-quality injection-molded chips from Matsui, and they can make make a custom mold for their inner ring.

So the options range from impossible to unfeasible to expensive but conceivable, depending on just what you're looking to do.

 

[CrazyEddie]

While getting clay chips with a new mold custom-designed to your specifications is unfeasible, if you get custom-made clay chips from CPC you can have your choice of a large number of molds that they have available. You can see their mold selection here.

And if you'd like to learn more about the variety of molds that have been used for poker chips in the past, there is an excellent compendium of poker chips molds here.

 

[ekricket]

@Strasser he’s looking for a new mold maybe you guys can team up, give him a boost n his endeavors

 

[TheDuke]

Here's a thought. I've read that BCC and ASM had both used the Nevada mold. Per the below post.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ry-of-the-nevada-jack-clay.66876/post-1340241

So despite the difference in manufacturing techniques the 2 companies were able to fit their machinery with the same mold?

If that's the case, would it technically be possible for CPC to be able to use any of the BCC molds that are privately owned? Tmold, MGK, etc? If they were somehow liberated from GPI's possession.

 

[Talrem]

Thanks for the advice and info @GianThaMan, @wolfpack, @warma, @Johnblue, @CrazyEddie, @TheDuke, and @ekricket !
I’ve got some extensive research and planning to do before I even consider making a custom purchase.
I‘ll be checking those sites and our custom chip forum threads here.There‘s so much to learn!

 

[GianThaMan]

Here's a thought. I've read that BCC and ASM had both used the Nevada mold. Per the below post.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ry-of-the-nevada-jack-clay.66876/post-1340241

So despite the difference in manufacturing techniques the 2 companies were able to fit their machinery with the same mold?

If that's the case, would it technically be possible for CPC to be able to use any of the BCC molds that are privately owned? Tmold, MGK, etc? If they were somehow liberated from GPI's possession.

Sadly, it doesn’t work both ways. High-pressure CPC/ASM molds could be converted to Paulson/GPI molds, and it’s happened quite a few times such as with the Web mold, Diamond mold, Nevada mold, THC mold, etc.

However, a lower pressure mold cannot be made back into or used as a CPC mold, probably because they’re now incompatible with CPC’s old machinery (but there’s not a lot of documentation on how the molds were altered, so that’s just a guess on the reason).

@Potsie1 actually has a bunch of web mold cups, but CPC has told him that they can’t be used, which is a shame because that’s one of the best molds out there, IMO.

 

[Potsie1]

@Potsie1 actually has a bunch of web mold cups, but CPC has told him that they can’t be used, which is a shame because that’s one of the best molds out there, IMO.

I know right? I have the artwork and molds. Bring back Riverboats 2.0! If only it could be done.