Road Trip! (2 Viewers)

[Ben]

I have 11,000 chips, all Paulson or ASM/CPC.

I've hosted 2 games this year.

Even if I hosted more regularly (which I hope to soon,) there would be zero chance of any of these sets ever getting in play over those 11,000 chips.

So why do I still REALLY REALLY REALLY want to buy some??? (Tonkawas FTW over Native secondaries, not that I wouldn't take both... )

The sickness is real folks.

 

[nitzilla]

I only need about 250 of those Tonkawa $1s, I'll stay out the way on the rest........

 

[upNdown]

We should have a series of pokerstars tournaments - the winners get a first shot at buying the chips.
(Retroactive to Wednesday night's tournament would be fair)

 

[courage]

We should have a series of pokerstars tournaments - the winners get a first shot at buying the chips.
(Retroactive to Wednesday night's tournament would be fair)

Yeah, Big O tourney. gogogo

 

[Gear]

We should have a series of pokerstars tournaments - the winners get a first shot at buying the chips.
(Retroactive to Wednesday night's tournament would be fair)

Hmm, I wonder who won that tournament? Something tells me I already know.

 

[GoStumpy]

Those Native Lights primary $5's (I think?) are AMAZEBALLS!! I am DEFINITELY in for a playable set of these chips!

 

[justincarothers]

Ok, I've had a chance to unpack the chips and here are my thoughts.

Tonkawa Casino Chips
1) Most of the chips are brand new! They probably only had 2000 chips that were ever in play and even those chips are in great shape.
2) $.25 and $500 chips are MIA! Very disappointing. I am trying to find out what happened to them.
3) I really like the green inlay, especially on the $100 chip.
4) The gray $1 chips are very cool. Love the $100 chip!

Native Lights Primary Chips
1) Primary chips are in very good condition. A little dirty, all crosshatching is still there, edges are just starting to wear (perfect for shuffling).
2) very limited amount of fractional chips.
3) Overall very happy with the condition

Native Lights Secondary Chips
1) WOW...what a surprise!!
2) Unbelievable spot progression and colors!
3) Not very many (10,000 chips total) Very rare set for sure.
4) Not sure how to release them in any sort of fair way.

Stay tuned!

Jim

Just an idea. What if you put them in playable sets of 500 or 1000 and limit everyone to one playable set the first couple of days/weeks then open them up to all the folks that need thousands. I think that would be fair. Fingers crossed. i only want a cash set of The Tonkawas.....

 

[WedgeRock]

IMO:

* - Native Lights 50c is nice, but looks fleabitten compared to the Tonkawa...

 

[WedgeRock]

Just an idea. What if you put them in playable sets of 500 or 1000 and limit everyone to one playable set the first couple of days/weeks then open them up to all the folks that need thousands. I think that would be fair. Fingers crossed. i only want a cash set of The Tonkawas.....

Might work. There will be trades among people looking for more/other denoms just like the OH Jacks...

 

[gopherblue]

I disagree. We should rank people by the most useless posts winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!

You're disqualified. You keep Dolo'ing $25s.

 

[MD Mike]

I have 11,000 chips, all Paulson or ASM/CPC.

I've hosted 2 games this year.

Even if I hosted more regularly (which I hope to soon,) there would be zero chance of any of these sets ever getting in play over those 11,000 chips.

So why do I still REALLY REALLY REALLY want to buy some??? (Tonkawas FTW over Native secondaries, not that I wouldn't take both... )

The sickness is real folks.

Why do people pay mountains of money for art and hang them up in the house?

You're just a man of refined taste

 

[links_slayer]

order placed. thanks jim.

 

[chubbyone]

order placed. thanks jim.

 

[Meddler2]

I commit to a cash set of $1s and $5s. Don't care which casino as long as 2ndary or good condition. There. Committed.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Man they look fantastic... but I'm on the sidelines this time unless I hit the lotto this weekend, and I haven't bought a ticket so...

 

[Chbyfngr]

order placed. thanks jim.

Just got my shipping notice. I'll post pics as soon as they get here.

 

[detroitdad]

I commit to a cash set of $1s and $5s. Don't care which casino as long as 2ndary or good condition. There. Committed.

200 x 1 and 200 x 5

 

[BiGGyT]

I hope the "if you sell your Cleveland chips" ban is in place, then I might have a chance.

 

[pedrofisk]

Edit - Never mind, that's what I get for participating in the conversation I guess.

 

[atomiktoaster]

God, metallic gold looks so good on a mint chip. That Native Lights sec $500 is niiiice....

 

[Chbyfngr]

The sale is 100% up to Jim so this is just a suggestion. Here in NYC there is a whole system for signing up your kids for school that is crazy compared to smaller places where you are preassigned to a school but it is fair given the competition for the better schools. Adapting it to the sale could go something like this:

1 - Jim breaks the chips into playable sets, not too big, by casino and primary set verse secondary sets. There would be what, 3 or 4 set types? Jim of course sets the price per set. He is welcome to conduct polls to determine what is more desired so he can get a sense of supply and demand to set his prices.

2 - Each member submits their set type by preference order. In other words I would take set B first, Set C second, set A third and so forth. This commits you to purchasing your first choice but not your second and on choices.

3 - Jim gives random generated number to each person who signed up and publishes the list (or not as it is his business).

3 - Going in order of the random numbers from lowest to highest that person is sold their first choice. If the first choice is already sold out they are offered their second choice or if first and second are sold out their third choice. At this juncture the member must purchase their first choice to be fair to Jim or decline their turn if their first choice is sold out. I know you are asking why not just buy whatever you want once it is your turn? The idea is to help protect those who may want a less popular choice and have the bad luck of getting a higher number.

4 - The first round is over after the last member buys or declines their turn. The second round starts back at the lowest number and gives a second chance to purchase to anyone who declined in the first round. This gives the opportunity for anyone who decided to decline because they didn't get their first pick but now can't stand not getting something.

5 - After the second round the sale is completely open however Jim sees fit. By set or by chip or whatever. OR the sale is open after the first round.

It may sound complicated but it really is not and I think it would be fair.

Pretty labor intensive for Jim when there are potentially hundreds of people interested.

 

[pedrofisk]

Pretty labor intensive for Jim when there are potentially hundreds of people interested.

It is up to him of course and the good thing about this process is this is the most complex version. It can easily be simplified down while staying fair.

 

[kenny]

Pretty labor intensive for Jim when there are potentially hundreds of people interested.

It's going to be labor intensive for him no matter what, unless he just puts an order page up on his site and lets people go at it. Perhaps there's a simpler way to achieve the same goal though.

I'd just like to see limits placed on number of chips that can be ordered and maybe one order per household / family... and a pre-announcement of when they are going on sale.

Give the people who aren't constantly F5'ing this site a chance, and don't let some jabroni swoop in and buy 5,000 chips (only to list them for sale here for 30% premium ten days later).

 

[upNdown]

I'm not at all a fan of the "sell by the set" model. I hope we get to buy chips a la carte, like the last sale.

 

[chubbyone]

Well, by announcing the scarcity, he sure has gotten people’s interest piqued in these. If that was intentional, then mission accomplished!

In a fair market, doesn’t demand dictate price? Seems like the simplest solution is to price them such that, to play, you gotta pay.

Now, that said, I would much rather they be priced far under market value and sold only to new chippers from Buffalo, NY.

 

[kenny]

I'm not at all a fan of the "sell by the set" model. I hope we get to buy chips a la carte, like the last sale.

I wouldn't mind a-la-carte, but there should be a limit on the total number of chips a person/household can purchase. And perhaps limit the fracs per order. Don't let someone fill their 1,000 chip quota with ten racks of $0.25's...

 

[RichMahogany]

I wouldn't mind a-la-carte, but there should be a limit on the total number of chips a person/household can purchase. And perhaps limit the fracs per order. Don't let someone fill their 1,000 chip quota with ten racks of $0.25's...

Jim usually does limit the number of chips. Upper denoms and/or fracs due to scarcity and to give more chippers a chance to buy.

 

[DJ Mack]

In a fair market, doesn’t demand dictate price? Seems like the simplest solution is to price them such that, to play, you gotta pay.

But the million dollar question is: What is the demand? Jim sold out of his HS CLE chips in fairly short order. With a few exceptions Todd still has every denomination of HS CIN chip still in stock for purchase and they're very similar to HS CLE. Obviously "the market" doesn't like his pricing. In some ways CLE was an anomaly because nobody had seen casino Paulsons in a while. Then Cincinnati came, and now we've got these. The market is starting to see supply again.

From a business perspective the question for Jim is does he want to make top dollar over the next three years or does he want to make a quick buck now? And what will come in the future? If Jim decides to hold out for top dollar is he going to undermine himself when he or someone else does the next deal and brings even more Paulsons to the market?

PS - I'm not a fan of fixed sets either. I might buy a sample set or a rack or two but these chips don't have any real meaning to me. If the only way to buy is by the set I'll probably pass.

I wouldn't mind a-la-carte, but there should be a limit on the total number of chips a person/household can purchase. And perhaps limit the fracs per order. Don't let someone fill their 1,000 chip quota with ten racks of $0.25's...

I realize you're new to PCF but that's how Jim normally runs his sales. There's maximum chip counts and then limits by denomination. And if you or your household is a known flipper your order might be canceled with no further notice. This isn't his first rodeo.

 

[MD Mike]

I'm not too worried. Even if he sells out, people will get their chips, clean them, realize they didn't really want them and repost clean chips to the classifieds.

That's where I swoop in this time

 

[Rhodeman77]

But the million dollar question is: What is the demand? Jim sold out of his HS CLE chips in fairly short order. With a few exceptions Todd still has every denomination of HS CIN chip still in stock for purchase and they're very similar to HS CLE. Obviously "the market" doesn't like his pricing. In some ways CLE was an anomaly because nobody had seen casino Paulsons in a while. Then Cincinnati came, and now we've got these. The market is starting to see supply again.

From a business perspective the question for Jim is does he want to make top dollar over the next three years or does he want to make a quick buck now? And what will come in the future? If Jim decides to hold out for top dollar is he going to undermine himself when he or someone else does the next deal and brings even more Paulsons to the market?

PS - I'm not a fan of fixed sets either. I might buy a sample set or a rack or two but these chips don't have any real meaning to me. If the only way to buy is by the set I'll probably pass.

I realize you're new to PCF but that's how Jim normally runs his sales. There's maximum chip counts and then limits by denomination. And if you or your household is a known flipper your order might be canceled with no further notice. This isn't his first rodeo.

Jim is pretty good at pricing his chips to move fast!!!

He also will often have an initial limited sale to gauge interest and pricing and then will adjust up or down for a full blown sale.

Jim has been very fair with us in the past while still making a profit. I have faith he will find a suitable way to get as many chips into the hands of people that want them as possible.