President Casino NY (PNY) Cards Mold Tribute (1 Viewer)

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After procuring two of my favorite GOAT chip sets: the Big Top Poker and Vineyards in cards mold, I wanted to add another of my favorite sets: PNY. The history of the PNY casino is quite interesting, and you can read more about it in this excellent history of PNY post by @Irish.

Developing a cards mold tribute for PNY turned out to be difficult. I had to develop the artwork entirely from scratch. Suitable images had to be found that might be reasonably close to the originals. There was no exact match for the font. The artwork itself is very complex with multistage gradients on just about every element.

The cards mold format itself posed challenges. They are not designed for "grand" size inlays. I'm not a fan of smooth ceramics, so I wanted to use cards mold, but the molded ring and cards indents limited the size of pictures and elements. I wanted to make the picture inlays as large as possible so I measured my chips with a caliper and pushed it to the very edge. I could not find any examples of pictures printed on cards mold, so I contacted Tina who send me a single picture of someone who tried it, but the results looked mixed. There was loss of resolution, and as expected the card inlays would distort the text in small ways.

While its impossible to match the original set exactly, I did procure pictures from stock image sites that match up reasonably well. Some tradeoffs were made - for example the $500 denom had to be moved down on that chip as otherwise it would cover the twin towers. Many other small compromises were made, but it is a tribute set.

The $0.25 chip is an invention of my own, based partly off the BCC 0.25/0.50 chips printed in a long ago group buy. I went with a medium blue to avoid dirty stack issues, and a picture of Times Square for the inlay. The dealer buttons I also made from scratch - it has a picture of Grand Central station. The $1000 is in 43mm of course!

Even after finishing the artwork, I was not sure this set would work at all, but I decided the only way to find out was to print a set. So I did that and the results are below. I did make one major mistake - I printed a single barrel of $20 with the wrong inlay color (it was too orange), but I've corrected this in the artwork below.

The final chips came out better than I had hoped. As expected there was some loss of resolution on the images, and distortion of the outer ring text from the cards mold inlays, but it was otherwise outstanding. Two of my favorites are the $1000 chip in 43mm and the red $5 which just look great. I may even add a few more in the future.

Here's my starting artwork (with a corrected $20):
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Here's the full set of artwork including secondaries. I moved the $2.50 chip down to make it a 0.05 for microstakes. If I reorder I might add some of the secondary chips:
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This looks so good.

I have a few PNYs myself but would really like to add some more impossible to find primary $1k's. This seems like a solid solution to that problem. Can you help me out ? :)

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I have a few PNYs myself but would really like to add some more impossible to find primary $1k's. This seems like a solid solution to that problem. Can you help me out ? :)
They are not going to be an exact match because you can't really print florescent colors on cards mold, but PM me and perhaps I can help you procure a few.
 
Shoot... my head has been spinning for a week now trying to decide if the cards molding would ruin my graphics (one sample and another) if they go outside the inlay. These photos are extremely helpful in showing that it could work.

Then again.... my head will not stop spinning yet because I still wonder if it would be useful to have a flat mold for tournament chips and a cards mold (with properly confined graphics) for cash chips. Just to differentiate them and add some variety.
 
One question -

It looks like those images are actual photos. Did you just embed (hi-res) bitmaps in the SVG/AI file? And Tina could handle that no problem?
 
It looks like those images are actual photos. Did you just embed (hi-res) bitmaps in the SVG/AI file? And Tina could handle that no problem?
Yes I was very skeptical that the pictures would work - I think I told @justincarothers that these would either be awesome or a total disaster when I placed the order.

I did embed the high res photos into the adobe illustrator file and then masked them precisely to fit the inlay. You can PM me for the dimensions as its not exactly the quoted number for inlay size. This made the illustrator file quite large, so I had to zip it and give her an upload link, but it all worked.

There is definitely some loss of resolution due to the cards mold printing process. If you want higher resolution on the inlay, Tina can also print hybrid chips for you where the inlay is printed on a label and then glued onto a slightly recessed ceramic, but I did not go that way.

Here's an idea of the quality you might see if you look really close up - you can see the individual droplets from the print - kind of like a Monet impressionist piece.

In practice the chips are small enough that its not really an issue - all of the drops blend to the eye when looking at a 39mm chip. The distortion of the text on the cards inset is a bit more noticeable but it gives it character as well.

Our eyes are remarkably good at blending small imperfections. Even though the camera can see this, the drops are basically invisible to me unless I light the chip up and really look for them.

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I also assumed that a replica of the giant inlay wouldn’t turn out well on the cards mold…and while there is some loss of detail, they look amazing!
The photos do have a dither pattern to them, but that’s only when zooming way in. I’m sure under the naked eye, it’s crisp and sharp.

Thanks for being the trailblazer on this…I’m sure many other sets will follow going outside of the ring.

Well done.
 
Shoot... my head has been spinning for a week now trying to decide if the cards molding would ruin my graphics (one sample and another) if they go outside the inlay. These photos are extremely helpful in showing that it could work.
If you look at my Vineyards set mentioned at the top of the post, you can see that Grand label chips do work on cards mold. The Palms cards mold are another good example. The main limitation is the label ring and cards imprints. If you can it would be best to keep text out of both of those areas, for example in the Red Baron set here in the final version I moved the large text in just a bit to avoid overlapping the cards, but kept the Las Vegas just outside the center inlay ring so it would not get split.

Even here with PNY where we have the label overlap the cards, its not that big of a deal because again our eyes tend to smooth over minor imperfections.
 
If you look at my Vineyards set mentioned at the top of the post, you can see that Grand label chips do work on cards mold. The Palms cards mold are another good example. The main limitation is the label ring and cards imprints. If you can it would be best to keep text out of both of those areas, for example in the Red Baron set here in the final version I moved the large text in just a bit to avoid overlapping the cards, but kept the Las Vegas just outside the center inlay ring so it would not get split.

Even here with PNY where we have the label overlap the cards, its not that big of a deal because again our eyes tend to smooth over minor imperfections.
I had forgot you also did the Vineyards on cards mold. Great chips
 
I had forgot you also did the Vineyards on cards mold. Great chips
Actually @timinater did the Vineyards artwork. The original cards mold buy of those was a regular size inlay done about two years ago, and my main contribution was to pay him a small fee to scale it up to Grand label size like the old casino set so I could print my set. I believe the Grand label Vineyards are also in the September group buy but relabeled as "Picard".
 
Your execution is impressive - well done! (My thoughts about PCNY and copying clay sets onto ceramic chips notwithstanding)
 

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