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Does anyone know roughly when each mold was made? Even rounded to the nearest decade?
Feel free to include retired/lost/destroyed molds....
Feel free to include retired/lost/destroyed molds....
Thank you! I appreciate that info! It also pretty much solidifies plans to get a set on the H mold.This is something I have been trying to research.
A lot of that information is already out there. In this post on the ChipBoard, David Spragg provided a list of most of the molds his company inherited, and where they are now. Many were donated to the Nevada Historical Society.And on top of that, there's the question of which molds CPC still has possession of but cannot advertise because they don't have permission from the owners. I tried to find a list of them, but the details are apparently not publicly disclosed. See here and here.
Not to mention - which molds did Burt/ASM/CPC have which they no no longer have possession of, and who has them?
@CrazyEddie, I haven't seen that thread before, and thanks for linking to it. I would have chimed in. I do have a bit more information about the Web mold.The web mold has a fascinating history, having bounced around from Burt to Paulson to BCC for manufacturing, and from Ace Sportworks to Marion and Co to Holdem Poker Chips for ownership. See here, and note some of the information is still uncertain.
Yes, it does seems a little odd for Patton to be selling just the mold cups in 2011, if he had the master die too. Maybe Marion still has the master die.I'd question whether MS Patton ever had a master hob. Here is his classified from chiptalk when he was looking to sell the mold. You would think there would be some mention of it.
Pretty sure he stopped using the mold when they stopped selling direct to the public.Does anyone know anything about what went on between him and BCC for him to stop using the mold with them?
These screenshots from the sale of his Riverboat tourney set on his website shed a little light. It mentions future use of equipment and service to the home market as likely reasons.Yes, it does seems a little odd for Patton to be selling just the mold cups in 2011, if he had the master die too. Maybe Marion still has the master die.
Does anyone know anything about what went on between him and BCC for him to stop using the mold with them?
Also, a while ago I came across this ChipBoard post from Robert Einsenstadt from 11/18/1999. He seems to indicate there that Marion retained control of the mold, and that Paulson was using it with Marion's permission. His post, though, ideally would be clearer.
Do you mean when BCC was bought by GPI (which apparently happened on June 7 2013)? Or had they stopped selling direct even before that?Pretty sure he stopped using the mold when they stopped selling direct to the public.
Oh, wait! Maybe the key word there is "authorized". Notice what Robert Eisenstadt said:It's interesting he says "that has never before been authorized for an inlayed, home use set" since, well, the Paulson Scandias are a thing.
I was told (and this seems strange) that sometimes the manufacturers are too busy with molds and can't fill new orders, so not to lose business for private chips with "secured" molds, they get permission (and pay a small fee) to use someone else's mold. Paulson told me that their use of the web mold (for the Geo Washington poker chip) was a "mistake." Marion said it was a "fluke." Marion also said they would be using the mold more often.