Just curious what people's opinions were ........ (1 Viewer)

[mipevi]

I don't believe CPC would reproduce the Rounders chips exactly even if the Roman mold was available, because it would be a slap in the face of collectors everywhere. The chip I have is the closest I know ASM ever went (gray bear and different font) on the Roman mold. Don't know who ordered this set, got my $5 from a French chipper.

 

[justsomedude]

Is it possible to create a crowd funding project to remake the mold for the original rounder poker chips? I don't think it hurt to try. I don't know exactly how crowd funding works.

Given the interest/demand, it's certainly possible.

 

[ktran]

I don't believe CPC would reproduce the Rounders chips exactly even if the Roman mold was available, because it would be a slap in the face of collectors everywhere. The chip I have is the closest I know ASM ever went (gray bear and different font) on the Roman mold. Don't know who ordered his set, got my $5 from a French chipper.

In my opinion, it's a movie and movie merchandise should be out there. I don't see movie items being a collecters more than a casino chip. I don't know, the movie has been out for a while and just like to have the chips in play rather than eye candy. There's a difference between global cheap poker chips sold everywhere and a quality poker chips. I think most people who would buy this would commit a good amount of money so it wouldn't be everywhere.

 

[ktran]

If anything, the recreation of these chips could spark a rounders 2 movie with a Doyle Brunson apprearance hahaha jk.

 

[liftapint]

... that making a new mold would cost something like $25,000.

I sure wouldn't mind crowd-sourcing a new scrown mold, if that were possible.

I know the chips wouldn't have the same feel, as the clay is different (and probably process?). But still...

 

[ktran]

I sure wouldn't mind crowd-sourcing a new scrown mold, if that were possible.

I know the chips wouldn't have the same feel, as the clay is different (and probably process?). But still...

Yeah I feel that it wouldn't have the same feel, but I do own limited edition stuff like shoe and etc and it doesn't really feel that special bc there's still a good amount out there. Given the fact if these were reproduce, the amount in circulation would increase, but that percentage of the people vs people who own them would still produce the same feel. With a too small amount out in circulation, they will be lost or broken and they would last the long years down the road.

 

[ktran]

I don't believe CPC would reproduce the Rounders chips exactly even if the Roman mold was available, because it would be a slap in the face of collectors everywhere. The chip I have is the closest I know ASM ever went (gray bear and different font) on the Roman mold. Don't know who ordered this set, got my $5 from a French chipper.

What feeling do you think is better having a few chips as eye candy or actually having a set and playing with them?

There's only a few people who have a full set and they had their moment. I'm sure that limited quantity feeling dwindles over time. And what happens if their chips get burned, lost, or any accident. Is there any back-ups to replace them?

 

[Tommy]

David and I were talking about the possibility of bringing back the Roman mold a few months ago. He was checking on what the current cost would be to get the mold back in service. One option that I suggested was crowdfunding/go fund me page with different level of prizes/discounts, etc..

I'll have to dig through the emails but I believe doing Rounders chips just like the original but with "Commemorative Edition" on it was discussed.

This fall will be the 20 year anniversary for the movie. (released in 1998) Maybe this can be done in time and be promoted as 25 year anniversary "Commemorative Edition" chips. I think this would go beyond just chippers. Pretty much anyone who got into poker because of the movie may help too.

 

[ktran]

David and I were talking about the possibility of bringing back the Roman mold a few months ago. He was checking on what the current cost would be to get the mold back in service. One option that I suggested was crowdfunding/go fund me page with different level of prizes/discounts, etc..

I'll have to dig through the emails but I believe doing Rounders chips just like the original but with "Commemorative Edition" on it was discussed.

This fall will be the 20 year anniversary for the movie. (released in 1998) Maybe this can be done in time and be promoted as a 25 year anniversary "Commemorative Edition" chips. I think this would go beyond just chippers. Pretty much anyone who got into poker because of the movie may help too.

Hopefully "commemorative edition" doesn't deter from the aesthetics.

 

[ejot]

What feeling do you think is better having a few chips as eye candy or actually having a set and playing with them?

I know what would feel really bad: Owning any amount of original movie prop chips, and then having the market flooded with playable-set quantities of identical reproductions.

I'm all for a crowd-funded Roman mold rehab and a commemorative edition set on the mold that's clearly labeled as such. Very cool idea @Tommy

 

[ktran]

David and I were talking about the possibility of bringing back the Roman mold a few months ago. He was checking on what the current cost would be to get the mold back in service. One option that I suggested was crowdfunding/go fund me page with different level of prizes/discounts, etc..

I'll have to dig through the emails but I believe doing Rounders chips just like the original but with "Commemorative Edition" on it was discussed.

This fall will be the 20 year anniversary for the movie. (released in 1998) Maybe this can be done in time and be promoted as 25 year anniversary "Commemorative Edition" chips. I think this would go beyond just chippers. Pretty much anyone who got into poker because of the movie may help too.

Hopefully there's an Abe Petrovsky out there to fund/invest this.

 

[ktran]

I know what would feel really bad: Owning any amount of original movie prop chips, and then having the market flooded with playable-set quantities of identical reproductions.

I'm all for a crowd-funded Roman mold rehab and a commemorative edition set on the mold that's clearly labeled as such. Very cool idea @Tommy

Yes, but you can't change it too much that deters it from being a chip rather than a cookie cutter item. I don't know it's tricky to mark it in a way where it doesn't affect the looks. At least that is what I feel. If it's marked in a way like it was a toy, I would even bother.

 

[upNdown]

I agree. I'm not a big fan of copies and commemoratives - if I can't have an original, I don't want a knockoff - but if they're discernibly different, like the current rounders offerings, I'm fine with them.

 

[ejot]

Both guys in on the discussion of creating such a set have a great eye for design.

 

[Tommy]

Hopefully "commemorative edition" doesn't deter from the aesthetics.

Something must be added or different so the originals and reproductions can be easily be distinguishable. ex: "Limited Edition", different color denom or bear.

Black Denom

I think someone had a set made with a brown bear when the mold was still in use.

It's going to come down to what David will allow if this gets off the ground.

 

[ktran]

It's business, it's harsh, but it's mostly about money at the end of the day. If a couple of people get metaphorically slapped in the face to supply the demand of others, then it was a "good" business move. It's not like it was a punch or knockout.

 

[Tommy]

Another variation. Bear facing left with black denom.

 

[ktran]

Something must be added or different so the originals and reproductions can be easily be distinguishable. ex: "Limited Edition", different color denom or bear.

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I think someone had a set made with a brown bear when the mold was still in use.

It's going to come down to what David will allow if this gets off the ground.

I think those changes are too drastic, the black demon takes away the character and makes it feel cheap. The bear flip is too noticable and bothersome. I don't know, it's a tricky process, but that's why discussing is important. It's hard to gauge what the majority want and what will sale, but for me it's too much of a change. This can be difficult. Like I said earlier it may be brutal and harsh for collector's, but it's business. From a business prospect would you think it would be better to continue on to the demand in the long run or keep old collectors pleased? Or is it self-fish for collectors to add a few more into circulation? It's not like it's McDonald's and it's everywhere, just a poker community who cares about the movie or the aesthetics alone. Collectors paid for the time they had with them and price/trend does change over time.

 

[ktran]

Maybe a small mark inside one of the roman mold marking would be enough. I don't know, even that would put me on the fence. I guess it's really up to discussion.
Maybe a material change.

 

[mipevi]

CPC should get in touch with Miramax to create a sick collector's edition anniversary blu-ray to come with a set of Rounders (anniversary) chips... Bonus content to include JimB talking about the chips!

 

[Gameface]

Maybe a small mark inside one of the roman mold marking would be enough. I don't know, even that would put me on the fence. I guess it's really up to discussion.
Maybe a material change.

I don't think you're going to be happy with any solution. CPC said it's not going to make an identical reproduction. End of story on that. Of course new customers would prefer an identical reproduction. But the best business decision is probably the one where CPC's integrity and reputation don't take a hit in order to make a quick buck.

 

[ktran]

CPC should get in touch with Miramax to create a sick collector's edition anniversary blu-ray to come with a set of Rounders (anniversary) chips... Bonus content to include JimB talking about the chips!

Anniversary seems to market towards the general consumer rather than chippers.
I don't know even if this project comes true, if the finish product is not to my liking I'd probably end up getting casino chips. Coming from CPC I don't think they would want to make it "Anniversary" looking. They cater to chippers not items that have designs that might deter from the looks for a poker player. It's tricky putting something on there.

 

[ktran]

I don't think you're going to be happy with any solution. CPC said it's not going to make an identical reproduction. End of story on that. Of course new customers would prefer an identical reproduction. But the best business decision is probably the one where CPC's integrity and reputation don't take a hit in order to make a quick buck.

I wouldn't say it is a quick buck, rather I see it as a product that will keep you in business for sure. Yes if a product was discontinued bc of a mold, I don't see why it is not viable for the company to continue making it if they had the funds. A company makes a product to sell, not for people's sake of keeping it a "special" item especially if the reason was a demand, funding, or material problem.

A quick buck would be intentially releasing a product and stopping it NOT bc of a funding/mold damage and then re-releasing it. Im not sure if they stop making it bc of a worn out mold or they wanted it make it limited. Anything made from CPC is quality and I'm not implying they should consider a quick buck move, just a decision for the future.

 

[ktran]

I don't know the original material, but if it doesn't have the brass or whatever CPC uses now for weight it would be a distinguishable difference. I think shwoimg brass on the side is enough or some other ideas. It's good to discuss of all the solutions before investing in a costly product.

 

[ktran]

I know what would feel really bad: Owning any amount of original movie prop chips, and then having the market flooded with playable-set quantities of identical reproductions.

I'm all for a crowd-funded Roman mold rehab and a commemorative edition set on the mold that's clearly labeled as such. Very cool idea @Tommy

Not really, yes it would suck a little, but I'd get over it. It's material not human lives.
Marking it would seem like it would be catering to the general public and making a quick buck rather than keeping true the process of making them. The process and quality is why we love it and not see it marked as anniversary and be sold at Walmart.

 

[Jambine]

I just read the last 4 posts. I understand none of it.
Is there a question in there? A comment to aid CPC in their business?

 

[Gameface]

I wouldn't say it is a quick buck, rather I see it as a product that will keep you in business for sure. Yes if a product was discontinued bc of a mold, I don't see why it is not viable for the company to continue making it if they had the funds. A company makes a product to sell, not for people's sake of keeping it a "special" item especially if the reason was a demand, funding, or material problem.

A quick buck would be intentially releasing a product and stopping it NOT bc of a funding/mold damage and then re-releasing it. Im not sure if they stop making it bc of a worn out mold or they wanted it make it limited. Anything made from CPC is quality and I'm not implying they should consider a quick buck move, just a decision for the future.

There is a security aspect to custom poker chips and casino chips. If someone could order up a set of chips identical to what I had custom made I'd be way less interested in custom chips from CPC.

And since CPC already made a commitment to not make an exact reproduction their integrity would be in question if they changed their mind now.

I think you've expressed an unreasonable set of expectations here. I also think you are vastly over-estimating the financial impact reproduction chips would have for CPC. They are not a high volume chip manufacturer. They don't have a higher profit margin making a 1 million chip order vs 1000 orders of 1000 chips. If their production capacity is saturated, which I think it is generally close to being, they are making all the money they can make.

 

[ktran]

There is a security aspect to custom poker chips and casino chips. If someone could order up a set of chips identical to what I had custom made I'd be way less interested in custom chips from CPC.

And since CPC already made a commitment to not make an exact reproduction their integrity would be in question if they changed their mind now.

I think you've expressed an unreasonable set of expectations here. I also think you are vastly over-estimating the financial impact reproduction chips would have for CPC. They are not a high volume chip manufacturer. They don't have a higher profit margin making a 1 million chip order vs 1000 orders of 1000 chips. If their production capacity is saturated, which I think it is generally close to being, they are making all the money they can make.

Idk I just don't want the chip to be cheesy. I don't see how a chipper would buy "anniversary" rather than the original. It's close to all or nothing for me. Tagging it anniversary just seems to market towards the mass instead of the niche group.

Like I said again, I don't know why they stop production of these chips, but how would it comprised their integrity if the cause was bc of a mold wearing out and no funding to replace? I don't know can someone inform me the reason why it stopped production. If a company stops production of a worn out mold and there wasn't a demand/fund to replace it, the intention wasn't to create sell the limited feeling. Again I don't know can some inform me on the cause of the cease of production or original intention?

 

[Gameface]

Idk I just don't want the chip to be cheesy. I don't see how a chipper would buy "anniversary" rather than the original. It's close to all or nothing for me. Tagging it anniversary just seems to market towards the mass instead of the niche group

How much would you pay per chip for an exact reproduction?
Really seems to me you should be tracking down the originals and paying market price for them.

I don't think you are grasping the situation. I'm done talking to you about this.

 

[ktran]

How much would you pay per chip for an exact reproduction?
Really seems to me you should be tracking down the originals and paying market price for them.

I don't think you are grasping the situation. I'm done talking to you about this.

I don't know it depends on the quality. How much does the original average cost (or cost range) and is it really realistic to find a set count that is playable and not bothersome to trade chips with people at the table constantly. The title of the thread is opinions and I think discussion is essential to crowd funding. Rather than arguing I'm trying to put out points and see other people points too.

I've read that the original might have worn out easier, but not sure how credible that soruce was. I'd guess only a few people know. Is there a review or anyone with personal usage?

I mean if done right and reasonable price, I would commit like another 2,000 chips into my collection for cash and tourney.