This is a really great idea!!
Just curious what people's opinions were ........ (1 Viewer)
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barfalloverewe
Sitting Out
I like the NPS look too. Agree with some of the color tweaks though I hesitate to get too worked up on colors over a pic on the net.
I don't love the A mold inlay; that would be a turn off to me. I love the 2 options or your Rounder chips, but if a new inlay is a possibility for these chips crowns would compliment the theme perfectly and could be made pretty simply.
I don't love the A mold inlay; that would be a turn off to me. I love the 2 options or your Rounder chips, but if a new inlay is a possibility for these chips crowns would compliment the theme perfectly and could be made pretty simply.
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Problem is the chips all cost $2+ to produce then and that prices them out of the market that stock sets are designed for.
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Virtually no demand, no.
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@David Spragg is the plan to offer more off the shelf sets????? Me likee if that's the case. I hate making decisions. I like buying pre made things
Possibly. That's what I'm trying to decide.
barfalloverewe
Sitting Out
The crowns used were (deliberately) an emperor's crown and an imperial crown
I realize I didn't word this well at all! I meant change the mold from the A mold to crowns; not the inlay.
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The problem is that once you sell cheap in order to move them, word spreads quickly and everyone expects a deal. That is a great way to piss off your existing customers. Only really works when you have a large quantity of something that came cheap. Even 5 to 10 sets could cost us $10k to produce. Most people here probably don't realise that margins are between zero for a 300 chip order (that's why we have a minimum) and 10% for 2000 chip one (assuming there are no screw ups). Therefore every 'investment' has to be much more carefully thought through than you may think.
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I need to follow this. I get that this is playing off what's been done before, but I think I fall in the category of 'general consumer' and they interest me.
There is no crown mold for real chips.
I actually really like them fwiw. Only comment would be what Ben said about the non-denom chip...needs to be something other than gray - yellow maybe? And I would NEED a $.25 chip. That would be a deal breaker for me if the line doesn't have a frac.
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The problem is that I doubt anyone here is the 'target market'. Might have been better had I started by saying 'Ask your neighbour their opinion'
If a set was created that was all (or mostly at least) Level 1 then that does make it easier. Even opens it up to other molds. The reason I'd stayed on Amold for now was purely that the mold is installed all the time, so if something was short it could probably be made very quickly. The less often a mold is installed, the higher the volume of stock would have to be held for it to work. Then the risk increases.
Interesting (maybe) fact here - a number of people say the Atlantic inlaid are bland. We've sold 10 times as many of those than the hotstamped since they became stock items!
If a set was created that was all (or mostly at least) Level 1 then that does make it easier. Even opens it up to other molds. The reason I'd stayed on Amold for now was purely that the mold is installed all the time, so if something was short it could probably be made very quickly. The less often a mold is installed, the higher the volume of stock would have to be held for it to work. Then the risk increases.
Interesting (maybe) fact here - a number of people say the Atlantic inlaid are bland. We've sold 10 times as many of those than the hotstamped since they became stock items!
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beefsack
High Hand
I'm a bit biased because I picked up a bunch of the error Imperials, but they look great in photos and I'll definitely want to add to my set if they become generally available.
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Another thing is that unfortunately the nature of the beast means you can't have unfinished parts sitting on the shelf for ages. Otherwise you could have stock of a dozen colors/spot patterns and choice of inlay designs that could be mixed and matched and finished in a week or two.
Of course the target market needs them yesterday, not even in a week or two.
Of course the target market needs them yesterday, not even in a week or two.
It would have been 10 million if they had fracs.Paulson managed to sell near 2 million of them without any fracs
I'm too poor to NOT use fracs. You might have something to do with that.
I'm with this guy. Ever since I followed @Hobbyphilic on YouTube I fell in love with the World Top Hat and Cane set.
Honestly, if you did make a stock set that was as appealing as WTHC, I'm sure this guy could review it and you'd get people purchasing based on just his good review!
My first real chip set came from watching his videos and then eventually buying Milanos. Led me to you guys and the wonderful world of Paulsons eventually!
I agree with you! I think more people than you know love fracs.It would have been 10 million if they had fracs.
I'm too poor to NOT use fracs. You might have something to do with that.
I know a quarter is a standard in my playbook with every set and many sets also have dimes and nickels. It's appealing to me and to others, not just on the principles of having a wide variety of stakes but also because it "feels" more complete and what we are transactionally used to.
beefsack
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the Atlantic Club colours and spots are loosely based on WTHC. The Atlantic Club $1 and $100 look really awesome.
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Maybe no one asks for them because they are not in any stock sets?
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They were loosely based on them while keeping the average spot level reasonable.
That's a possibility. Maybe customers don't think it's an option. I know it sounds silly to us who could ask for a $13 chip or .42 cent frac if we wanted. But the average customer might think in integers or not realize that their table games at home might be more welcoming if they started their stakes at 25 cents.
I'll give you an example.
When I met up with a craigslist person to get my InPlay tournament set, the guy selling it to me mentioned that he had a cash set of $1s, $2s, and $5s.
I said, "I usually play quarter-quarter or quarter-50 cent blinds" and he said, "that's neat, I never thought to do that".
Maybe he was a weirdo and doesn't represent the norm but there's one example
Meddler2
Full House
If I ran across these at Costco I'd snap buy all day long. I think they look fine. Could they be better? Sure. If these can be priced and marketed right, I think they are a winner.
Here's an example of what I might offer if I was in @David Spragg 's shoes. I kept the bases as weighted colors because I assume that's what he would want to do.
(1) hostamped solid frac is optional but cool, could do as GB / separate runs as suggested
(2) 1-25 are level one, 100-1000 level two to keep your costs down
(3) slap on a professional but generic enough inlay, could even do some kind of color matching as it won't increase your costs
(4) ...
(5) profit
(y) :thumbsup:
Edit: Noticed I was lazy and duplicated Blurble, not a hard fix if don't like that.
Edit2: Possible 5k and 25k as 44mm chips via GB / separate run...
(1) hostamped solid frac is optional but cool, could do as GB / separate runs as suggested
(2) 1-25 are level one, 100-1000 level two to keep your costs down
(3) slap on a professional but generic enough inlay, could even do some kind of color matching as it won't increase your costs
(4) ...
(5) profit
(y) :thumbsup:
Edit: Noticed I was lazy and duplicated Blurble, not a hard fix if don't like that.
Edit2: Possible 5k and 25k as 44mm chips via GB / separate run...
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Here's an example of what I might offer if I was in @David Spragg 's shoes. I kept the bases as weighted colors because I assume that's what he would want to do.
(1) hostamped solid frac is optional but cool, could do as GB / separate runs as suggested
(2) 1-25 are level one, 100-1000 level two to keep your costs down
(3) slap on a professional but generic enough inlay, could even do some kind of color matching as it won't increase your costs
(4) ...
(5) profit
(y) :thumbsup:
Edit: Noticed I was lazy and duplicated Blurble, not a hard fix if don't like that.
Edit2: Possible 5k and 25k as 44mm chips via GB / separate run...
Let's bring another question in then.
What is a reasonable price to expect to pay for a typical 500 chip set of the above, off the shelf, shipping and fees included?
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