on the designs in this thread:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-sample-sets-possible-heads-up-chips.22508/
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-sample-sets-possible-heads-up-chips.22508/
Just curious what people's opinions were ........ (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter David Spragg
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I like the nps colors
chipjoker
Flush
I like the Emperor set..
MrWitti
Straight
First 2 thoughts
I like the nps tribute and was wondering what the reason was to swap colors on the imperial chips for the 25c and 1$
I like the nps tribute and was wondering what the reason was to swap colors on the imperial chips for the 25c and 1$
superchromix
Full House
Not a fan of the inlays, particularly the choice of fonts, nor the Lavender base color for the 500 chip.
Regarding the inlay, there's plenty of room to unsqueeze the card room name (Imperial, etc.)in the middle so it's not so distorted. Seems to be very compressed in the middle so that the effect looks wrong.
Looks like you're using the old Paulson home colors for the inspiration. I'm sort of neutral on that. Don't love it, don't hate it.
Looks like you're using the old Paulson home colors for the inspiration. I'm sort of neutral on that. Don't love it, don't hate it.
OP
OP
Squeezing is identical ratio to NPS.
Inlay is bland and unimaginative - colour match it to the base, or something...best idea, throw some cash at a designer and run with the Atlantic Club.
Why copy the Paulson spots and colours? So boring and done (especially the Paulson Classics). There is a world of potential with the colours and edge spots you offer - why settle for "just another knock off".
Why copy the Paulson spots and colours? So boring and done (especially the Paulson Classics). There is a world of potential with the colours and edge spots you offer - why settle for "just another knock off".
OP
OP
"Why copy the Paulson spots and colours?"
Because I get requests for them every week. More than anything else.
Just my opinion of the chip design in that thread as requested.
If you're looking to duplicate the NPS chips, seems like a successful attempt. .
If you're looking to duplicate the NPS chips, seems like a successful attempt. .
This. At the same time, as much as I love CPC chips, the Paulson colors have much more "pop"; brightness. While CPC matches the basic colors, they are a tad dull, especially the 500 and 1000. Could just be the picture drowning the colors too, I can't tell.
Personally, I've never been a fan of the bottom set, but that is just me.
Mark
As far as inlay design, you can (and should) do much better. Color and insert choices are knock offs and look the part, I would rather see something that brings out CPC strengths.
I don't mean to be a downer, just really feel like there's so much potential lost with these. Should be epic, feels bland...
I don't mean to be a downer, just really feel like there's so much potential lost with these. Should be epic, feels bland...
Would prefer to see something original, rather than a re-hash of color/pattern combinations that have already been overused elsewhere.
In short, I think you can do so much better than just emulating an existing design, no matter how good or sucessful it may have been, or how improved the remake may be over the original.
In short, I think you can do so much better than just emulating an existing design, no matter how good or sucessful it may have been, or how improved the remake may be over the original.
Well, then you may have a winner from a marketing perspective. Just not from a creative one.
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
Do you think you get requests for these only because there are so many out there and it is what the "drive by" chip buyer know?
I would think if you created a stock set with a beautiful inlay using different spots and some bright colors that they would sell if they are marketed well.
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OP
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Everyone has a different opinion. That's why I was asking. I'm trying to decide what to do with them.
You have to remember that it is not for example, just a case of bringing in a designer to create something new. In order for them to be sold at a reasonable stock price (after all they are rarely going to sell to anyone that could afford full custom anyway), they have to be made in such quantity that it's possibly a $20k investment, not a $200 one.
Also, a large part of the market is for those who have no idea how to design anything or are buying as a gift and need it shipped straight away.
You have to remember that it is not for example, just a case of bringing in a designer to create something new. In order for them to be sold at a reasonable stock price (after all they are rarely going to sell to anyone that could afford full custom anyway), they have to be made in such quantity that it's possibly a $20k investment, not a $200 one.
Also, a large part of the market is for those who have no idea how to design anything or are buying as a gift and need it shipped straight away.
Ben
Full House
I really like the bottom set. I'm not CRAZY about all-same-spot sets, but they have mass appeal and this is well-done.
I feel like the top set could definitely use some tweaks, to add a bit of pizzazz to the lower denoms, and a little better contrast in the upper denoms. The one thing that really jumps out is that the NCV and 1 are WAY too close in colors (considering that the NCV is most often used as a fractional chip.) CPC light blue and gray are almost indistinguishable unless the lighting is very good.
Personally I'm not a fan of "(Randomname) Card Room/Casino/Club" on my inlays, unless they have some sort of direct relevance to the actual venue (e.g. Oak Tree Casino chips at my house.) but that's just me and I understand that it's pretty unavoidable in a set intended for mass-market purposes.
I feel like the top set could definitely use some tweaks, to add a bit of pizzazz to the lower denoms, and a little better contrast in the upper denoms. The one thing that really jumps out is that the NCV and 1 are WAY too close in colors (considering that the NCV is most often used as a fractional chip.) CPC light blue and gray are almost indistinguishable unless the lighting is very good.
Personally I'm not a fan of "(Randomname) Card Room/Casino/Club" on my inlays, unless they have some sort of direct relevance to the actual venue (e.g. Oak Tree Casino chips at my house.
) but that's just me and I understand that it's pretty unavoidable in a set intended for mass-market purposes.
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Was gonna say exactly what David said.
You need a stock chip ready to go for the public, not just the people here, who would likely go with customs anyway.
I think what you have there is great for that intended purpose. Plus maybe some people in the hobby here may like those and buy some too.
I don't see any flaws in going forward with that design from that point of view. As long as your price point does not end up being double what the intended target would pay. But you know that already lol.
You need a stock chip ready to go for the public, not just the people here, who would likely go with customs anyway.
I think what you have there is great for that intended purpose. Plus maybe some people in the hobby here may like those and buy some too.
I don't see any flaws in going forward with that design from that point of view. As long as your price point does not end up being double what the intended target would pay. But you know that already lol.
And that makes perfect sense - but remember, some people think McDonald's is great until they have a 5 Guys burger (not to mention they GLADLY pay more at 5 Guys).
I'd spend some time looking at all the classic chips that were produced that people love (I think there is a thread or 10 like that on here), identify the common theme(s), and hand it over to a designer to see what they come up with.
I also get the $20k vs $200 investment, but if I was in your shoes, I'd make 5 to 10 sets of the "winning" design (and I'd only sell as fixed sets to start - people buying as a gift would appreciate that - would even have the reasoning behind the breakdown in the listing) and would sell them at whatever the final price would be - even though I'd "lose" money on them, the market information would be worth way more.
If they sell in a timely fashion - awesome! If not, back to the lab again.
These make all kinds of sense to use as a stock design, in terms of having a familiar and fairly well-accepted set of color/spot/pattern combinations.
From years of repetitive chip viewing and having owned a set like the second mockup, I am personally a bit numbed to the color schemes and inlay designs, but understand not everyone feels that way. I mean, I'm the guy who likes poker size, regular index cards around here.
If there is demand for them and you can fill it, by all means do! A healthy CPC is good for all of us aspiring degens who don't have customs yet, and for those super degens who want to keep getting new ones.
From years of repetitive chip viewing and having owned a set like the second mockup, I am personally a bit numbed to the color schemes and inlay designs, but understand not everyone feels that way. I mean, I'm the guy who likes poker size, regular index cards around here.
If there is demand for them and you can fill it, by all means do! A healthy CPC is good for all of us aspiring degens who don't have customs yet, and for those super degens who want to keep getting new ones.
That is kinda sad, why wouldn't people want more original spot patterns rather than a rehash of over used Paulson colors/spots?
I'm sure if you get that many request for those colors/spots they would sell but i don't think I'm in the target demographic for these stock chips.
DJ Mack
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Because they know what they know and not what they don't. Dice chips were and continue to be completely acceptable to play with for this crowd. This is something they can buy off the shelf that will dazzle their friends for 17 seconds and then they'll get to playing cards. There's a huge difference between the people who lurk these forums and the people I think David is trying to market this to. As he said maybe it's a gift where the buyer has no real idea beyond husband likes poker, here's a chance to get an honest to goodness casino quality 300 chip set for a few hundred dollars.
I've told the story about working off duty at a church carnival with a casino where the guy running it is a big time gambler. Multiple Vegas trips every year, throws home casino parties and so forth. His pride and joy is a 600 (or maybe 1,000) official weight custom clay chip set. From what he described it's custom in that the colors were his choosing. I think they're composite, not even China clay. He's the kind of guy David would love to have as a customer for this offering - money to burn and just enough interest to want something unique but not going to sleep with them under his pillow every night (which would drive to real customs).
Krony
Two Pair
I prefer the Imperial inlay but the Emperor spots and colours with a few tweaks.
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superchromix
Full House
There is not enough contrast between Lavender and Green, or Lavender and Retro Lavender, for those colors to work on the same chips. This is a problem with the Emperor 25 and 500 chip.
If you want a stock set with potential to be a product with lasting appeal, I really think you should bring in a designer. There is no need for fancy edge spot patterns etc., even all 314 would work, but the inlay and spot colors need the right design, which will bring out the strengths of the CPC chips.
If you want a stock set with potential to be a product with lasting appeal, I really think you should bring in a designer. There is no need for fancy edge spot patterns etc., even all 314 would work, but the inlay and spot colors need the right design, which will bring out the strengths of the CPC chips.
@David Spragg is the plan to offer more off the shelf sets????? Me likee if that's the case. I hate making decisions. I like buying pre made things
Like the 25 and up; hate the three lower denoms, (mirroring how I feel about the NPS).
Don't like the label at all -- the crown seems too large, and the convex print does not seem loo clear or distinct.
Now if you could build a set using the colors and spots of the Paulson TH&C set's low denominations, and the NPS upper denoms, IMO that would be terrific.
Don't like the label at all -- the crown seems too large, and the convex print does not seem loo clear or distinct.
Now if you could build a set using the colors and spots of the Paulson TH&C set's low denominations, and the NPS upper denoms, IMO that would be terrific.
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