CPC color beef... (1 Viewer)

Edit: Can the asshat who think's he's somehow right and everyone else is wrong fuck up another thread, or just wait fifteen minutes so I can ask my questions and get them answered in less than 15 pages of bullshit. I get it, I derail shit all the time, but find a better place and time.

So I was reading CPCs quick history online and looking at the big CPC thread. Being fairly new (bout a year), has their offerings increased or decreased through the years with molds, colors, etc.? (I see some of the current convos, but don’t know if changes have occurred over time).

Has anyone else ever popped up over the past however long that tried to do the same thing with clay chips like CPC, only to die out?

I saw the previous interest for the different rounders with CPC, and watched as almost no one came through with orders to make all of it happen. Have there been other requests for molds, maybe Hotstamping, or other differences that gained steam only to give out?
 
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Klobberer said:
Anyone else hate the way the colors look with brass flakes? I know lead is dangerous, but what about something like tungsten powder? Heavier than lead so less needed to weight the chips.
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My first cpc set utilized canary for one of the workhorse chips. Though the face of those chips look brilliant, the brass really shows on the edges. It shows so much as to make them look dingy in the right lighting.

It bugs me ALMOST enough to where I want to consider reordering them in dg yellow or arc yellow.

IMHO I’d stay away from lighter weighted colors like canary or plain white.

Some chips though I think the brass augments the edge appearance; such as some of the medium reds and blues.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
So I was reading CPCs quick history online and looking at the big CPC thread. Being fairly new (bout a year), has their offerings increased or decreased through the years with molds, colors, etc.? (I see some of the current convos, but don’t know if changes have occurred over time).

Has anyone else ever popped up over the past however long that tried to do the same thing with clay chips like CPC, only to die out?
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There have been other manufacturers over the years that produced similar clay chips for the home market, but most have gone the way that Dix will no doubt go. TRK produced what to my eye are the most amazing chips, but Dennis retired and rather than let someone else run the biz, he opted to shut down. He ultimately sold some of his color formulas to BCC. BCC produced amazeballs custom chips to rival Paulson, when their QC was up to snuff (towards the end they were almost phoning it in, tbh), but they were bought out and shut down by Paulson. BCC also had a 5000 chip minimum order, which many of us balked at (which, in hindsight, was stupid).

CPC is the only real survivor in the space.
 
gopherblue said:
There have been other manufacturers over the years that produced similar clay chips for the home market, but most have gone the way that Dix will no doubt go. TRK produced what to my eye are the most amazing chips, but Dennis retired and rather than let someone else run the biz, he opted to shut down. He ultimately sold some of his color formulas to BCC. BCC produced amazeballs custom chips to rival Paulson, when their QC was up to snuff (towards the end they were almost phoning it in, tbh), but they were bought out and shut down by Paulson. BCC also had a 5000 chip minimum order, which many of us balked at (which, in hindsight, was stupid).

CPC is the only real survivor in the space.
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Yeah I dig a lot of what I find that’s BCC, QC withstanding. Is it a long and expensive process for CPC to develop additional colors and such? Or are they busy enough and happy with current business that there’s no need? (I have no idea if we represent a sliver or large part of their business, or if casinos or non US make up a large part of their business).
 
liftapint said:
It feels GREAT, doesn't it?
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gopherblue said:
You never forget your first...

...now if Mel would just unblock me..... :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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I just don't get how some people can be so acrimonious. I'd rather disagree with a reasonable person than agree with an unpleasant asshat. I'm thinking about blocking some people retroactively, now that I've crossed the threshold. :)
 
BarrieJ3 said:
Yeah I dig a lot of what I find that’s BCC, QC withstanding. Is it a long and expensive process for CPC to develop additional colors and such? Or are they busy enough and happy with current business that there’s no need? (I have no idea if we represent a sliver or large part of their business, or if casinos or non US make up a large part of their business).
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Yes, David has indicated that color development is extremely costly and time-consuming.
 
Beakertwang said:
I’ve ignored my first PCF’er!
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Somehow magically, you’ve now taken the virginity from two of us (and I’ve dealt with people who have never been hugged by parents and raise by animals on here). I’m sure having a political tagline is a great idea though.

Edit: we’re the fools for even indulging in the first place. Already derailed multiple threads previously will bs political crap and trolling. Fool us once...
 
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BGinGA said:
A lot of folks aren't bothered by it, but I've never been a fan of the look. I don't like the appearance of the security flakes on some Paulson chips, either.

Tungsten, although dense, is a lot more expensive than brass.... and probably wouldn't look much different in chips.
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Just like the old saying goes, "Tungsten is more expensive than you think".
 
Another issue for CPC is certainly the diversity of opinion here as to what works.

They offer 38 colors. If they offered 99, someone would want / demand color # 100. When it's made available, very few people would actually use it.

As a group, we tend to long for whatever we cannot have. When we can have it, we no longer want it.

Also consider how small a market we constitute here. A new mold would cost less than the price of a new pickup truck, but the company actually making custom chips cannot justify the expense because they could never recoup the cost from sales of chips made with that mold.
 
dennis63 said:
As a group, we tend to long for whatever we cannot have. When we can have it, we no longer want it.
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I agree with this. I also agree there are difficulties as a manufacturer to cover costs.

On the other hand it would sure be nice to have a bright yellow.

Just curious if there is an estimate on what it costs to add a new color to the palette? I have a hunch that if a bright yellow color was added there would be several orders put in immediately.
 
dennis63 said:
Another issue for CPC is certainly the diversity of opinion here as to what works.

They offer 38 colors. If they offered 99, someone would want / demand color # 100. When it's made available, very few people would actually use it.

As a group, we tend to long for whatever we cannot have. When we can have it, we no longer want it.

Also consider how small a market we constitute here. A new mold would cost less than the price of a new pickup truck, but the company actually making custom chips cannot justify the expense because they could never recoup the cost from sales of chips made with that mold.
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I agree with the premise of your post. That being said, David had just been on here not too long ago discussing the cost and feasibility of a new mold, and that it's not only not sustainable, yes, but also alluded that it just wasn't possible given current manufacturing requirements for a new mold to be created.

I have no doubt that if a new Roman mold was made, that if the cost to make one was the price of a new pick up truck, that David would make his money back with just the first round of preorders from us nut heads here wanting a close replica of a Rounders set. Reading between the lines, though, he suggested that this is not the case, that the cost would be much higher than one would believe, and that even if creation of a new mold were possible, revenue from sales wouldn't be enough to justify creating the new mold.
 

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