Garyrap28
Sitting Out
I am thinking of getting a set of empire ceramic chips. I ordered samples and they feel different than my Tiki kings. Anyone have experience with Apache’s newer line of ceramics?
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I think Apache is sourcing these from the same overseas manufacturer as the TINA chips? I could be wrong but another member would know for sure.
If they are the same I think you will notice and difference in qualtiy compared to Br Pro. I handled some TINA’s CM and found them to be a bit slicker, didn’t stack quite aswell and had a few random spinners etc
In my opinion the TIKI, DDLM etc lineups are Br Pro are top notch ceramics
If they are the same I think you will notice and difference in qualtiy compared to Br Pro. I handled some TINA’s CM and found them to be a bit slicker, didn’t stack quite aswell and had a few random spinners etc
In my opinion the TIKI, DDLM etc lineups are Br Pro are top notch ceramics
Agree. But you are going to PAY for BR Pro. I have Br Pro and Tina no-molds. Those two are very comparable in feel and the Tinas don't have glossy edges. For the price, I'd go with Tina no-mold.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
With all the new molds coming out, I would not go Tina no mold. The more you use them, the more spinners occur, its tough pushing a barrel across the table without it tipping after 1.5 years of use on my nickels. Not a huge deal for my beginner players but for someone that's experienced it would probably be very annoying.
Mine have only been felted ONCE. Got me worried now.... I can only figure the wearing of the texture on tinas causes that?
Do you have any more experience with the Cards mold (or others) that you could share? It could help the OP too.
You've got me interested now.
I should also mention that my BR Pros and tinas both have very little use on them. So they feel very similar to me.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Just speaking honestly. I 100% love my set for the price I paid I can't complain; I love how the artwork is the whole face, but that also comes with lots of surface area and little quality control. It feels like my nickels and quarters aren't slippery but they are not sturdy when in stacks, while the $5s are bricks. I deal mostly microstakes so those are used less.
No experience with cards mold, but the physics behind having a recess makes sense. No buyer's remorse, still very happy with the set for my splashy beginner games, but the choices available now seem better and will probably age better.
Cool. I do remember reading that cards mold chips are smooth, no texture. Because I've seen lots of them for sale in the classifieds it led me to believe the original owners weren't that happy with them. Recess, yes, less spinners but smooth could make for slippery?
Oryx
High Hand
Can I hijack this thread for a second lol. I have samples from BR Pro and ya they're great, I have CC samples from Apache the way. I guess it's personal preference between ceramics and CCs but are the overall quality and longevity comparable between the Apache CCs and bro pro ceramics?
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Yup, preference based. I personally don't like the smoothness of BRPro ceramics and edges but others love them.
Being an original fan boy of China Clays, I can tell you that after many years of ownership, those chips will break down over time (flaking, chipping). Some china clays can be broken in half with bare hands - they are just not a solid product. Perhaps oiling them when new could preserve them. Mine weren't oiled and over the LONG haul, they started breaking down. This includes Pyramid casino, Milano, and Pharaoh versions that I have owned. YMMV.
I think any ceramic is going to outlast CC's.
Agreed I don’t like the glossy edges but I think Br Pro adds value when it comes to quality,. I recently sold a 1000 piece Tiki king set and they stacked better than my Paulsons. The two barrels of Tina CM I had were slippery in comparison, didn’t stack aswell and had two spinners in the 40 chips
We have Crazy Horse in Canada but are the same as Milanos and after a game I needed to vacuum the table from all the chipping
Absolutely. I've dealt with the same thing.
LeLe
4 of a Kind
Yes, same source as Tina. Josh did confirm it earlier.
Same issue with CM, TinaHC mold. A lot of spinners, slippery surface after intensive usage.
Lesser issue with 43mm compared to 39mm, I figured it prob due to having a bigger surface.
That's the main reason I sold out most of my CM set. Leaving only a 43mm CM & 39 No Mold Texture set in my collection.
For customed set, excellent color and free edge alignment as well.
It is still a good damn deal at that price and especially with more public new mold showing up in the past 12 months too, I don't see any decline in demand for Tina chips in the near future.
If anything, more than half of the newly joined member over the past 12-18 months solely owned Tina set > Clay set
I have a set of small set (100) of Tina greek mold and a large set of Tina textured no mold. I like the look and feel of the greek mold, but they are definitely more slippery when stacked than the textured no mold. But neither set has seen much play so really no wear on them yet.
I have a set of DDLM from BR Pro that I bought from another member here who says it saw a lot of use. They still stack great and are not slippery. Color still looks good too.
I have a set of DDLM from BR Pro that I bought from another member here who says it saw a lot of use. They still stack great and are not slippery. Color still looks good too.
Agree with this 100%
to your no-mold set, they came out great! Sadly, I agree with you on the Greeks. I subject chip samples to many tests, shuffling, stacking, but my first impression is the "flick" test. All I do is take a sample stack of say 8 chips and give them a flick of my finger hitting the stack about halfway down. If they easily slide across the desk, they fail the test. My no-molds beat the Greeks in that test. It's a shame too, because the Greeks look beautiful. My no-molds will slide, but not as easily. As for Br Pro, I posted already in this thread 
ngmcs8203
Flush
Interesting. My majestics and royals feel nothing like my TINAs.
They shouldn't. Tinas are "ceramic", the others you mention are "china clay". When he says same source as Tinas, he's referring to Empire, Taj Mahal and Penthouse chips from Apache (all 3 are "ceramics").
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I just recently purchased a Taj Mahal set from Apache. Played with them last weekend on a cabin trip and everybody loved them. Be aware there are quite a few spinners, though. But that bothered nobody at the table. All depends on how particular you are.
kj6
New Member
Just received mine and colors in person look great. I was leaning to tiki kings or Dia De Los Muertos but my son overruled me and neither of them had denominations he wanted for smaller stakes with school friends. Nice to at least save a few bucks when overruled.
Garyrap28
Sitting Out
I’m torn between the Tikii Kings as and Empires as well. No one to over rule so maybe I’ll get both. Lol
I think the BR Pro chips feel great. Better than the ceramic card molds I think.
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