Almost died, not out of the woods (2 Viewers)

Sending prayers, positive vibes, and whatever else I can think of your way.

We are dealing with this exact same (or eerily similar) situation with my mother-in-law right now.

Sepsis, infection in the foot/leg, dealing with the potential for amputation, a week in the ICU, etc...

Again, prayers sent.
 
I have been out of the hospital a week. It seems that the primary risk of death is past.

It turns out I have been a diebetic for years. quite a surprise as I am in the best weight / shape I have been since my 20s. Eat better too. Go figure.

I had gaseous gangrene. Was walking around, playing poker living a normal life on Tuesday, by Saturday I am in the hospital and being asked to update my last will and testament - just in case.

The prognosis for the leg is more dicey - not that anyone is giving the kind of math I'd prefer, and perhaps they don't know. I'd say 70% I keep my leg. I had my first hyperbaric treatment today, 19 more treatments planned through may 21st. First place paying cash pays off - if I was on insurance / medicare there is a 30 day wait for hyperbaric treatment to make sure your wound is "bad enough".

I am wheelchair bound. Can't drive, and likely can't for several months at least. I'd be shocked to be traveling in the next 90 - 120 days. 2021 meetups are likely more fantasy than hopeful.

I have to say medical costs are crazy. I don't carry insurance. After the first three years of the Affordable care act where our doctors and hospitals got dropped the first month of coverage we decided this didn't work for us. Turned out to be a good choice as none of the care providers would accept any form of Obama Care. That would have truly pissed me off to have paid hundred of thousands in premiums only to find the insurance was worthless the one time I really needed it. < the insurance companies abused the hospital network so badly they decided it was better to treat the people as indigent vs insured. >

Cash works pretty good ok - sometimes. My hospital bill was $70K, they took $20K in cash and were thrilled. Can't help but notice that is roughly what my deductible / co pay would have been.

I got prescribed a $2.4k antibotic. But found a good Rx coupon for $48. Needed a tube of "wound sandpaper". Price $6K. with coupon, $275. Doesn't make any sense. 95% discount for basically doing nothing but print a page from the internet.

Tried to pay for home health with cash. So far they will not take it. but still come to the house, render care and ask about medicare I am too young to have.

The hyperbaric center ended up admitting they had no idea how much their service cost to deliver. They held a powwow with the various parts of the hospital network and the providers to figure out how much to charge. $550 per two hour treatment plus one wound care evaluation a week which seemed reasonable.

Hard to imagine but almost no one as ever been paid in cash. I think they ended up liking the idea. Present a bill, get paid on the spot and done. vs. fight with insurance companies, deal with patients who don't understand their insurance isn't paying enough and deal with all the medicare rules.

Thanks for all the well wishes. I'll be glad when this hand is over - all I want is to keep all my parts. Not too much to ask for -=- DrStrange
 
Happy to hear you're out of the hospital.

Sending you positive vibes for a full recovery! I really hope you get back to 100% very soon.

As a Canadian, your description of the American healthcare experience is eye opening.
 
Just happy to hear your alive Scott!!! Hopimg you cam keep the leg, and I really really hope you get better! I would love to meet you one day!
 
I hope the treatments help and you get well soon. I will have you in my prayers for a full recovery.
 
Where I live there are a number of charities that will assist people with their medical bills. You may want to check on that being a possibility.
 
Wow it’s true what they say, hospitals really do charge an arm and a leg
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Hoping a joke landed well, I always enjoy humor when things are tough. Best of luck, we’re here for you. Also, my son has diabetes is you ever wanna chat
 
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Glad to hear that you’re still with us and on the mend Scott.

We hear horror stories about the American healthcare system over here. After reading your post it just seems like a cynical money-making machine.

The main thing is that you’re here to tell the tale. All the best for your recovery.
 
Good luck Doc. Hope the oxygen tank does it’s thing and you heal well. Sorry about the healthcare nonsense but if anyone can navigate it you can.
 
Well, I got a shitty surprise last Saturday and ended up back in the hospital. One of my toes we though safe went dead like a shriveled raisin in less than a day. This was deemed an emergency and led to a rare Sunday surgery to amputate the toe.

So far, so good. But then things went more like a hospital soap opera than anything else.

My podiatrist comes to my wife and tells her is it nearly a life and death situation, my leg needs to come off as soon as possible. The infection is still spreading. Even a 24 - 48 wait might cost me my knee. The vascular surgeon drops by, does a two minute review without looking under my bandages and agrees. The leg needs to be removed first thing tomorrow morning.

As it turned out, the podiatrist removed my wound care doctor and my GP from the notification list. I can't say if this was a mistake or by intent. The end result was none of my medical team knew I was in the hospital nor did they know the planned course of treatment nor did they have any of my current medical information.

However the wound care doctor finds out I am in the hospital when my wife cancels my wound care treatment plan for this week due to the planned amputation. The wound care doctor rushes over, inspects my leg and issues a completely different plan. He sees no life and death emergency, suggests we reject the advice of the other doctors and return to his clinic. The decision is mine to make.

We ended up in a conference call with the vascular surgeon and the wound care specialist. The surgeon ends up agreeing that there wasn't much of an emergency. Saying, go ahead and try wound care but that I would be in his care by June getting the leg amputated anyway. As might be imagined I decided not to chop off my leg this week and give the hyperbaric treatment a chance. I still marvel at the change of opinion by the surgeon - it seemed pretty strange to me.

At the moment this looks like going with wound care was an excellent choice. Things are looking promising, though the staff is quite careful to remind me there is no assurance of success.

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As for my observations about paying cash for medical services. I am in no way in need of financial assistance. I didn't intend to imply that I was.

We saved roughly $200,000 not buying health insurance over the life span of the Affordable Care Act. Even at the end of this treatment, we will still be way ahead by paying cash for medical cost vs using insurance. Plus I got faster / better care by not having to follow rules that apply to people using insurance / Medicare.

I appreciate the kind thoughts and suggestions for how to get financial aid. Thanks to everyone who offered their help.

DrStrange
 
What a crazy story, but somehow I'm not surprised. Having got through that situation largely intact, hopefully you will now have a good recovery. Take care!
 
Thanks for the update really glad it’s seems to be progressing “ok” if not well. Keep it up!
 
My best and wholehearted wishes good Doctor, for your health!:hearts::hearts::hearts:
The costs of healthcare are America's disgrace.
They are partly (significantlly though) due to the collapse of the judicial system (lack of reason and common sense resulting into absurd liability demands), which in turn is due to the collapse of the educational system.
This has started long ago; I can remember seeing disclaimers on TDK cassette tapes: "This warranty does not cover damages out of the use or INABILITY TO USE this product".

I hope the following bitter short story can entertain you; again, my sincere wishes for a full recovery.
starting at :30
 
I read "then things went more like a hospital soap opera than anything else", so naturally, I though of a Spanish soap opera. So I was expecting a hot Brazilian nurse, and a sponge bath because you reminded her of her missing twin's ex.

My version was better, but good to know you still look positive. Keep fading the outs.
 
Surgeons will almost always determine that you need surgery. It's a bit of a conflict of interest to let them being the ones calling the shots.

I'm hoping and cheering for you to come out of all this with all limbs attached. C'mon One Time!
 
Really hoping you are able to keep the leg! Thanks for the update and checking in... sounds like a stressful event for sure. Fingers crossed everything improves positively from here!
 

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