Advice on the Quantity for Custom Set (2 Viewers)

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I am in the process of designing a custom set of poker chips. A couple of things that I am struggling with is, which denominations, and the quantity of each denomination. I have hosted my own home game for years, and I have a huge generic set of "Monte Carlo Tournament" chips. Erring on the side of caution, my set is quite massive, around 2300 chips. I host a variety of games from micro-stakes 0.25/0.50 up to 5/10 - so I like to be prepared. On average, my game is only about 8 people, my largest game ever was a 5/10 with 12 different people joining throughout the night, so 12 initial buy-ins and a total of 18 rebuys (not including the initial buy-in).

With my custom set, and have added some buffer. This what I am proposing - is it overkill? What would you change?

.25 (500)
1 (500)
5 (600)
25 (350)
100 (150)
500 (100)
 
If you always just running one table then you should figure out what is the max number of each denom you need for each game. Then the highest number for each denom is the one you order.

That is a lot of fracs for .25/50 game and a lot of ones for 1/2 game. On the other hand many will say that this is not a lot of fives
 
This is over 75k in cash.
12 people with more than 6k in play.
Rebuys only with bigger denoms to reduce "frac mania"
The question is how many chips you want, or how many chips you need?
 
The breakdown should follow some kind of logic. Your workhorse chips are 1, 5, and 25 to cover all stakes mentioned. Those chips are the ones you need the highest number of. I don’t see any scenario where you’d need more than two racks of fracs for a single table, and even that is a bit overkill. A comfy 2000 chip breakdown could look like this:

200x .25
500x 1
500x 5
500x 25
200x 100
100x 500 (or 40x 500 and 60x 1000)

But you could easily get away with a much smaller set, like this 1000 chip breakdown:

150x .25
200x 1
200x 5
200x 25
150x 100
100x 500 (or 40x 500 and 60x 1000)
 
SwissChip said:
This is over 75k in cash.
12 people with more than 6k in play.
Rebuys only with bigger denoms to reduce "frac mania"
The question is how many chips you want, or how many chips you need?
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Reducing "Frac Mania" does make sense. I can probably bring this set down to 1800, but would like to keep it around 2000, currently at 2200 now.
 
mipevi said:
The breakdown should follow some kind of logic. Your workhorse chips are 1, 5, and 25 to cover all stakes mentioned. Those chips are the ones you need the highest number of. I don’t see any scenario where you’d need more than two racks of fracs for a single table, and even that is a bit overkill. A comfy 2000 chip breakdown could look like this:

200x .25
500x 1
500x 5
500x 25
200x 100
100x 500 (or 40x 500 and 60x 1000)

But you could easily get away with a much smaller set, like this 1000 chip breakdown:

150x .25
200x 1
200x 5
200x 25
150x 100
100x 500 (or 40x 500 and 60x 1000)
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I think the top option is better. I can play with those numbers a bit. Don't most custom sets require to buy in lots of 25 or 50 though?
 
I guess you are referring to the 500 and 1000 chip breakdowns? Then 50 each would be fine.
 
205 x .25
305 x 1
305 x 5
205 x 25
145 x 100
65 x 500

1200 chip set (5 spare each) - over 50k in cash
If less $ needed - add some 5s and 25s and reduce the 500s

This would be my order in your case...
 
I tweaked it a bit... would consider going to 1800.

.25 (350) = 87.50
1 (450) = 450
5 (550) = 2,750
25 (400) = 10,000
100 (150) = 15,000
500 (100) = 50,000

[2000] = [$78,287.50]
 
SwissChip said:
This is over 75k in cash.
12 people with more than 6k in play.
Rebuys only with bigger denoms to reduce "frac mania"
The question is how many chips you want, or how many chips you need?
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I want to try and find a happy medium of both what I want, and what I need.
 
...but honestly:
If you want to go for a bout 2000 +-200 chip set, you could easy make a cash + tournament set...
 
NotRealNameNoSir said:
I love fracs, but there is 0 reason to need more than 200. 350 is ridiculous.
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I do have a .25/50 game and it tends to be the second most attended game. I’m worried I’ll run out of lower denoms if I I cut it back too
Much.
 
FS21 said:
I do have a .25/50 game and it tends to be the second most attended game. I’m worried I’ll run out of lower denoms if I I cut it back too
Much.
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So full 10 handed game, you want more than a barrel of fracs for each person? Thats way too many. They just make change at the table from people, every rebuy doesnt need to have the same # of chips in it.

When I originally buy in for 50, give me a barrel of quarters. But next time, just give me a bunch of 5s and Ill make change myself
 
NotRealNameNoSir said:
So full 10 handed game, you want more than a barrel of fracs for each person? Thats way too many. They just make change at the table from people, every rebuy doesnt need to have the same # of chips in it.

When I originally buy in for 50, give me a barrel of quarters. But next time, just give me a bunch of 5s and Ill make change myself
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If I went down to 250, I suppose that would be sufficient.
 
I don´t think you need so many fracs.
My breakdown to cover all stakes would be:

200 x 0.25
400 x $1
400 x $5
400 x $25
200 x $100
100 x $500

1,700 chips with a total bank of 82.450 € (!)

or you take some more $5, maybe 600. I would do that because I like to play with $5s, but that would be for a 1/3 or 2/5 game.
 
MajorTom said:
I don´t think you need so many fracs.
My breakdown to cover all stakes would be:

200 x 0.25
400 x $1
400 x $5
400 x $25
200 x $100
100 x $500

1,700 chips with a total bank of 82.450 € (!)

or you take some more $5, maybe 600. I would do that because I like to play with $5s, but that would be for a 1/3 or 2/5 game.
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It is quite a payload, but I am trying to cover multiple games.
 
FS21 said:
Revised…

.25 (250)
1 (400)
5 (500)
25 (400)
100 (150)
500 (100)
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That is still way to many fracs. I host one table, .25/.50 games. I have never in my life needed more than 100 x .25. What is your buy in for a .25/.50 game? I do $100 with starting stacks of 12 x .25, 17 x 1, and 16 x 5. If you put 200 quarters on the table they will most likely get in the way. Especially if you don't have players that know how to manage chip stacks.
 
I mean there's nothing wrong with having vastly more chips than you need if you have the budget. It's just that you could have fit in a tourney or a limit set in the budget too if you prioritized.

FS21 said:
Don't most custom sets require to buy in lots of 25 or 50 though?
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Buying direct from BR Pro or Tina doesn't require lots of 25. Buying from Broken Arrow does if you join the group buy but individual air shipping orders don't require lots of 25.
 

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