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Advice for someone looking for heavily weighted (14g +) chips? (1 Viewer)
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JLPicard
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Thanks! Yeah I ordered samples through MRC and have browsed Stright Poker, both suppliers seem nice to deal with but can't seem to compare with what Apache or other international vendors offer. I see myself owning several sets down the road, so if I have to purchase more chips later I won't be too upset haha.
chip exchange still has some CiC bud jones condado beach chips for sale. I think the only plastic chips I would own would be the bud jones CiC
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/presidents’-day-weekend-sale.51696/
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/presidents’-day-weekend-sale.51696/
CrazyEddie
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I don't know why I didn't mention this earlier. Here is a vendor sale that's a great way to get your hands on some heavyweight casino-grade plastics: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/sample-sets.70640/
This is what I recommend:
2x Golden Palace primary BG — $12 (times 2 = $24)
GP Group Matsui CIC — $8
Imperia Abbiati — $5
Casino Praga BJ — $18
That's $55 plus shipping (from Russia to Canada - no idea what that's gonna run you) for:
Bourgogne and Grasset:
Abbiati: 5 39mm - these weigh 12g and have a metal insert according to the catalog (see here, p. 13)
Bud Jones:
Just an idea, in case you can't get samples of these chips otherwise.
This is what I recommend:
2x Golden Palace primary BG — $12 (times 2 = $24)
GP Group Matsui CIC — $8
Imperia Abbiati — $5
Casino Praga BJ — $18
That's $55 plus shipping (from Russia to Canada - no idea what that's gonna run you) for:
Bourgogne and Grasset:
- 6 39mm - these weigh 13.7 grams according to my scale
PLUS
- 4 ceramics
- 2 43mm (?)
- 2 48mm (?)
Abbiati: 5 39mm - these weigh 12g and have a metal insert according to the catalog (see here, p. 13)
Bud Jones:
- 4 V7 A-size decal chips, 39mm and 11-12g according to the tomb1 Bud Jones guide, see https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/bud-jones-informational-thread.17609/#post-321725
PLUS
- 1 lightweight roulette chip
- 1 43mm chip
Just an idea, in case you can't get samples of these chips otherwise.
CrazyEddie
Full House
Note that all of these manufacturers have multiple lines of chips they make and sell, and some are heavier than others. This is just a sample of four types, but it's probably decently representative of what you're likely to find available for sale.
Nanook
Full House
Let's goooooo!
RainmanTrail
Straight Flush
And like all of his chips, he's been trying to sell them for a decade now lol. He refuses to adjust his prices to the market and instead just chooses to wait for the suckers (er, market) to adjust to him instead.
MyLastChip
3 of a Kind
Not a cash set, and I don’t know shipping cost or weight of the chip. But this is still available in my neck of the woods I believe..... https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/cheap-chips.69971/
200 Motels
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I just realized that you might enjoy 43mm Ceramic Hybrids. They're nice n heavy and they stack incredibly. You try any of those?
I see you have yet to discover the 'match test' for chips.
Unlike plastic chips, compression clays do not ignite when a flame is applied. So much for your 'primarily plastic' theory....
Paging @DrJohn
Full disclosure, I have no idea what ingredients are used manufacture "clay chips". Just love looking as his up-close and personal chip pic's.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/drjohns-chip-pr0n-the-index.60530/#post-1187524
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JLPicard
High Hand
Those look very nice - I ordered a sample of Royals from Apache that were 43mm, and they didn't feel like poker chips to me, maybe because they were a little too big without being overly heavy. I feel like I'm looking for 39mm, although the Royals have been my only experience with 43mm chips. I did appreciate their fantastic colour and design though. Thanks for the great pics of these!
philhut
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Importing from the USA or abroad will add to your costs significantly. Have you looked at local shops? 'Strait poker supplies', has several options with labels and denominations.
What is it about the 14g chips that are so appealing?
For me the most important thing is that the chips stack well without falling over. Then comes the breakdown and appearance. I like sticking with traditional colours for the most part, but that is entirely up to you.
For Straitpokersupplies I can recommend the "Scroll" ceramics as a great set. Also for a very affordable set the Prestege chips are weighted and have denom's without dollar signs giving you more options with the set. There are also heavy chips, order some samples, this will at least give you a set of spares for your future set or a cheap lesson learned.
RainmanTrail
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I see you have yet to discover the 'match test' for chips.
Unlike plastic chips, compression clays do not ignite when a flame is applied. So much for your 'primarily plastic' theory....
That's because "compression clay" chips are made from thermoset plastics, whereas Bud Jones chips are made from thermoplastics. Both are made from polymer powders but there's an important distinction between the two. Thermoset plastics harden under high heat and pressure, but only one time. They can be softened with moderate heat before that, but they only harden/set once, after that, they cannot be melted again. Thermoplastics can be re-melted and will re-harden over and over. This property also makes thermoset plastics useful for automotive applications. Most plastics near an engine are also thermoset plastics. But both chip styles are definitely made from plastic. There's nothing clay at all about "clay" poker chips. One is just a thermoset plastic and the other is a thermoplastic.
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/plastics-rubber/thermoset-vs-thermoplastics/
So much for your "match test" theory...
The Monte Carlo chips have nice bright colors and edge spots. They are a slugged chip that weighs 14 grams and they are denominated. I played in a weekly home game that used these chips for their tournament and $1/$2 NLHE cash game. They look good and are still going strong after 10+ years. The Monte Carlo's are my top choice for slugs.
Here is a link to a supplier in Toronto : https://www.straightpokersupplies.com/monte-carlo-14g-chips-sold-by-the-roll.html
As an aside, I don't find slugged chips practical for transporting to home games. If you are the host in the group, they will work fine.
Just some examples of slugged Abbiati, Bud Jones and two B&G chips. Personally my sweet spot is ~12g for plastic chips (which for some reason translates to ~9g for clays). Those oversized 15.2g chips are obviously for real men only.
CrazyEddie
Full House
Bakelite doesn't ignite either, and it's very definitely plastic.I see you have yet to discover the 'match test' for chips.
Unlike plastic chips, compression clays do not ignite when a flame is applied. So much for your 'primarily plastic' theory....
CrazyEddie
Full House
CrazyEddie
Full House
Welcome to PCF!
You're getting samples which is the correct first thing to do. After that, it's all about personal preference so buy what you like. The whole point of getting samples is to that you can try them out in hand. Then buy what you like, not what other people tell you to buy.
You're getting samples which is the correct first thing to do. After that, it's all about personal preference so buy what you like. The whole point of getting samples is to that you can try them out in hand. Then buy what you like, not what other people tell you to buy.
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JLPicard
High Hand
Thanks for this resource! I appreciate the recommendation too, going to take a look at ordering some of these.
I ordered a sample of these, and quite liked them. Only complaint was the rough edges, which oddly appears on orders from MRC or Straight Poker Supplies, but not on orders from Apache. The rough edges do apparently smooth out over time though. Great suggestion and I may have ended up ordering these if there were a .25c denomination.
Haha obviously. This is super helpful thanks, I'm finding it's not always easy to find the exact weight of a chip when I'm doing my research on themJust some examples of slugged Abbiati, Bud Jones and two B&G chips. Personally my sweet spot is ~12g for plastic chips (which for some reason translates to ~9g for clays). Those oversized 15.2g chips are obviously for real men only.
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Prenders17
High Hand
For a first set, go for it. Most of these guys are like 5 sets of chips deep (respect). But bro, you just walked into the country club and asked if Costco’s golf clubs are ok. The secret nobody at the pro shop tells you is the wedges and balls are great for the price point.
So are slugged chips if that’s your budget and style. I got the Claysmith Mint set for my tourneys. Bright colors, a cool but generic enough motif, and you can get a set of 1,000 on the Poker Store site dirt cheap. The flashing around the edges is the only part that irks me, but it’s well documented and I got samples, so I knew what I was getting. They’re half the cost of China Clay and China Clay is a quarter of the cost of CPC. Will I upgrade some day? Sure, but as infrequent as my game is right now they’re a big upgrade from Dice chips.
So are slugged chips if that’s your budget and style. I got the Claysmith Mint set for my tourneys. Bright colors, a cool but generic enough motif, and you can get a set of 1,000 on the Poker Store site dirt cheap. The flashing around the edges is the only part that irks me, but it’s well documented and I got samples, so I knew what I was getting. They’re half the cost of China Clay and China Clay is a quarter of the cost of CPC. Will I upgrade some day? Sure, but as infrequent as my game is right now they’re a big upgrade from Dice chips.
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Yes, if you ever put slugged chips in a birdcage they are tough to carry
LinkyBabe
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https://www.apachepokerchips.com/product/monte-carlo-poker-chips/
They don't have a .25c denom but they do have a 25c denom
You can find them on eBay also.
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JLPicard
High Hand
Oh nice! Didn't come across that one, thanks!https://www.apachepokerchips.com/product/monte-carlo-poker-chips/
They don't have a .25c denom but they do have a 25c denom
You can find them on eBay also.
FDLmold
Royal Flush
How heavy are the Abbiatis? I bet your crew would like those.
mtl mile end
Flush
Trying to stay on point here, I think a really important question is, are you sure that 15g is your target weight? The options at 13g far, far outnumber the options at 15g. Also, are you set in your thinking that "heavier is better"? Because that opens a number of options using slot tokens or coins to make a set.
The Crown Plaza were 11.5g
Darthhoodie
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As far as the flashing around the edge, I could swear that someone here sanded it off using some very fine sandpaper and had good results. At this price point I can't see a reason why I wouldn't give it a try on a few.
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JLPicard
High Hand
Fair point, after reading some of everyone's thoughts, I'm thinking I'll be more flexible and just lean toward a heavier style of chip for my first set. At a certain point, coins/brass chips kind of lose the look of a poker chip altogether for me, despite their weight.
Can't stop won't stop. But I'm coming around, you all might yet convert me. Still, thinking a heavier chip for my first set is the way to go.
Thanks for the link! Bud Jones look super nice, I'll have to peruse and see what's available/affordable.
That's a great idea, and worth the time considering what I'd save settling for the rougher edges but keeping shipping within Canada
I've considered this a potential drawback of pursuing heavier chips - If I end up ordering 750-1k of them, it'd make for a heavy birdcage. And would probably just break any aluminum case.
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