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Perhaps the most interesting to me is the JFK assassination which I believe was orchestrated by a group of people within the US government.


(start watching at the 2 min mark)

The above linked speech in '63 is fantastic and perhaps the last time I heard a US president seriously discuss peace as a goal. JFK wanted world peace which would obviously include peace in Vietnam as well as with Russia. In addition he was frustrated with the CIA after the Bay of Pigs and talked of dissolving the CIA completely.

JFK calling for peace along with his desire to end the CIA motivated people within the US government to have him eliminated.

There are plenty of great videos on Youtube and other documentaries that cover the topic.

What conspiracy theories do you believe to be true?
 
Chem trails. I can see them with my own eyes. I know someone who saw a UFO too. He says 1000 percent sure , not just %. He says something flying that fast can't just stop on a dime.
 
The Twin Towers weren't turned to dust by the plane crashes, the subsequent fires, a "pancake collapse," or any other officially promulgated stories.

The true cause is hard to nail down, and I won't give credence to any half-baked theories, but none of those things come close to accounting for how the buildings came apart. There is also no reasonable explanation for why they were both destroyed in nearly identical ways despite having sustained such different damage.

And of course, watching WTC7 come down is like watching an old casino get imploded. Scattered fires and random damage inflicted by falling debris can't make that happen. And it was the third such anomalous destruction on the same day.

If these things are not only physically plausible, but can be made to happen so haphazardly three times in one day, how is there such a thing as the demolition industry? Gotta say, that would be a truly ridiculous conspiracy—the entire demolition industry bullshitting everyone for decades, including generations of physicists and engineers, about the need to use explosives to carefully dismantle a building's internal structure.

I'm sure I could scratch up a few more conspiracy theories that I find have some merit, but this was the biggest one of my generation, and IMO the craziest and the hardest to have a civil disagreement about.
 
@Jimulacrum & @CraigT78
I could examine as plausible only the possibility of the US deep government not doing enough to prevent the attacks, probably because they had not fully realised their potential magnitude and they wanted to politically exploit them, anyway (ie in the hope the attacks would engender contained disaster and be politically useful, a-la-Pearl Harbor, which is certainly not a conspiracy theory - Admiral Kimmel in Pearl had crucial information withheld from him on purpose).
 
I wouldn't say that I 100% believe they exist, but I think there is a very high chance of the existence of shadow governments.

I also don't believe it's true, but I would love to meet some intelligent aliens before I die. Roswell is true one time!
 
dew4au said:
That a hotdog is a sandwich....
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The debate has reached today's Washington Post:

"There is a lot that divides us as a country. And I’m not talking about politics.
I write about food, which can be just as divisive. Ketchup with fries? Thick- or thin-crust pizza? Does avocado toast signal the end of times? Is a hot dog a sandwich???"

:eek:
 
FDLmold said:
That Michael Jordan went to "go play baseball" for a couple years instead of being punished for gambling on NBA games.
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or that his "flu" game was really just him being super hung over from going to AC the night before.
 
CraigT78 said:
I once stated I believed 9/11 was an inside job, I was looked at like I was from another planet. I've never said it again publicly but I still believe that it was.
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Oh, and where is the plane wreckage at the site of the Pentagon plane crashing... too coincidental!
They even stated that one of the only parts found there was an engine and wasn't even from that type of airliner !!! Something doesn't add up here!
 
CraigT78 said:
I once stated I believed 9/11 was an inside job, I was looked at like I was from another planet. I've never said it again publicly but I still believe that it was.
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"Inside job," maybe. I can point out a few suspicious characters, but I don't have any specific accusations to level. All I know is that what I saw—hundreds of times, from a dozen different angles—doesn't jibe with the story.

People respond badly, in my experience, mostly because they're traumatized. The way the event played out, the nationwide fear of worse things to come, the constant bombardment of those images on TV, the newscasters' panic, the talk of it "changing everything," all of it really screwed a lot of people up.

The TV coverage in particular was really bad. I was fortunate enough to not get glued to a TV that day. But I did watch full-length VHS (6+ hours) recordings of the news coverage years later, and holy shit man. I can see why people got so damaged from watching that unfold live on TV all day.

I worked a cash register at a gas station around the time it happened, and I remember being pretty stunned at the number of people acting and talking bizarrely that night and the following week or so. I'm not an idiot; I understood that something really crazy had happened, and I myself had experienced bouts of anger about it, but some people were being real friggin' space cadets. (One night, it was foggy out, and this regular customer came into the store with panic in his eyes, whining about "They're releasing something into the atmosphere!" That same night, a group of young men drove by, shouting "ARE YOU READY FOR A WAR?!" Braveheart-style out of their car windows. It was creepy, like being the only sane person locked in an asylum. And this was before I started realizing the fishiness of the event.)

Also, to this day, I won't say "nine-eleven" when discussing this topic. It's like a trigger word that instantly stifles the reasoning ability of hundreds of millions of people.
 
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Anthony Martino said:
That our government and media are controlled by ultra-wealthy corporations who are playing the long-game to maintain their stranglehold on power by keeping the majority of our population undereducated and divided/distracted
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I also believe this to be the case.

Coyote said:
@Jimulacrum & @CraigT78
I could examine as plausible only the possibility of the US deep government not doing enough to prevent the attacks, probably because they had not fully realised their potential magnitude and they wanted to politically exploit them, anyway (ie in the hope the attacks would engender contained disaster and be politically useful, a-la-Pearl Harbor, which is certainly not a conspiracy theory - Admiral Kimmel in Pearl had crucial information withheld from him on purpose).
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^^This is pretty much what I think. There was perhaps intel known about an attack and they let it (whatever "it" was purported to be) happen with the hopes of leveraging the damage for political gain (more wars in the Middle East, Patriot Act etc.).

I am not really sure what to think about 9/11 and I have seen many of the conspiracy videos on YouTube. I do think the government accounting of what happened is withholding a lot of critical information to say the least. There was some funny business going on but I can't say I have a strong opinion on what ACTUALLY happened.
 
FDLmold said:
That Michael Jordan went to "go play baseball" for a couple years instead of being punished for gambling on NBA games.
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https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/what-really-happened/e/52233390

"Before he even won his second championship, Michael Jordan wasn’t just the best basketball player in the league, he also had the perfect image. But then in 1992, a book came out, ‘The Jordan Rules’, and the public and media couldn't believe it - Jordan was human. About a year later, he retired. But why did he leave the game in his prime? Was it a secret suspension? Did he really want to play minor league baseball? Could any of the conspiracy theories be true?"
 
WedgeRock said:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/what-really-happened/e/52233390

"Before he even won his second championship, Michael Jordan wasn’t just the best basketball player in the league, he also had the perfect image. But then in 1992, a book came out, ‘The Jordan Rules’, and the public and media couldn't believe it - Jordan was human. About a year later, he retired. But why did he leave the game in his prime? Was it a secret suspension? Did he really want to play minor league baseball? Could any of the conspiracy theories be true?"
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I haven't read anything on the subject but I also found it very odd that his dad ended up being murdered. Had to be something else to the story.
 
Coyote said:
@Jimulacrum & @CraigT78
I could examine as plausible only the possibility of the US deep government not doing enough to prevent the attacks, probably because they had not fully realised their potential magnitude and they wanted to politically exploit them, anyway (ie in the hope the attacks would engender contained disaster and be politically useful, a-la-Pearl Harbor, which is certainly not a conspiracy theory - Admiral Kimmel in Pearl had crucial information withheld from him on purpose).
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That's quite possible. Also possible is that the event—whatever it took to get those buildings down—was actually carried out by actors that were supposedly friendly with the U.S. (i.e., had communications with top officials). Things start unfolding, and they threaten to do worse and worse things until BushCo initiates the War on Freedom. Then they have to remain silent on the matter to prevent continued attacks on soft targets that they're helpless to defend.

It would explain a lot, including why U.S. officials ordered all the evidence to be hauled out under military protection and smelted, and then resisted any effort to have a meaningful investigation for years and years afterward. That stuff should arouse the suspicion of anyone.

Can't prove a damn word of any of this, though. It's just one potentially logical answer that seems like it would address all the loose ends and weirdness. Truth is that I have no idea and no means to collect additional evidence.

By the way, there was this smell afterward. Had to be for several months or even a year. You could smell it from miles away—at least as far as E 14th Street, if you know the city—if the wind was blowing in the right direction. It was this nauseating chemical smell, like it was constantly radiating out of Ground Zero (which we know somehow continued burning red-hot for months). Never smelled anything like it in my life, before or since. Again, not consistent with the "pancake collapse" or any of that. And this evidence, I personally experienced with my own nose.
 
Jimulacrum said:
There is also no reasonable explanation for why they were both destroyed in nearly identical ways despite having sustained such different damage.
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Different damage? They were both impacted above the halfway point of the structure by airliners of similar size with similar fuel loads, that exploded on impact. What was so different?
 
GPI has been buying up all available Paulson's at inflated prices for the last few years so that they
can get bought out by Angel Holdings who will now see it as profitable to sell custom Paulson chips to the home market.
 

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