Two Tables..Two Separate Banks??? (1 Viewer)

[rcamp014]

Hosting my first Two Table Cash Game this Saturday and one of my regulars mentioned how excited he is for the game but then said “You are gonna have two separate Banks….right?!”

My immediate thought was “No”. I mean I have to pay everyone out….so why would it matter.

But wanted to ask the group….is there a reason for me two separate the banks due to having two tables?

Also one more question…I am considering keeping a spreadsheet of buy-ins/re-buys….anyone else do this?

 

[merkong]

One bank. One banker. No spreadsheets.

Keep it simple.

 

[Freeroll]

I run a cash game every 2 weeks. Most games we get 2 tables (sometimes only 1, and sometimes 3). I use only one bank and it works perfectly fine. I can’t think of a reason why you would use two separate banks, but maybe there is a reason in some games.

 

[upNdown]

“You are gonna have two separate Banks….right?!”

Strange question. Can’t see why, unless you want two separate bankers for convenience.

 

[rcamp014]

I run a cash game every 2 weeks. Most games we get 2 tables (sometimes only 1, and sometimes 3). I use only one bank and it works perfectly fine. I can’t think of a reason why you would use two separate banks, but maybe there is a reason in some games.

Thanks! I cant think of a reason either.

My plan is only one bank.

 

[rcamp014]

Strange question. Can’t see why, unless you want two separate bankers for convenience.

Agreed. I only plan on doing one bank. Just wanted to see if any more experienced people had a solid reason that made sense to make two separate banks.

 

[detroitdad]

One bank. One banker. No spreadsheets.

Keep it simple.

This

 

[DoubleEagle]

One set of chips, one bank. If you are using two different sets of chips, perhaps a guest set, then run a separate bank for each chip set.

No spreadsheet.

 

[rcamp014]

One set of chips, one bank. If you are using two different sets of chips, perhaps a guest set, then run a separate bank for each chip set.

Now that is a good reason. Thanks!

 

[ChipTalker]

Not sure I agree or at least I do not see the reason why diff bank for guest set if still only 1 banker. I run a weekly 1 or 2 table cash game for 10+yrs. Sometimes 1 set or sometimes 2 sets. In my experience 1 set per banker only if more than 1 banker. If only 1 banker than doesnt matter how many sets or tables. In fact it just adds complexity when you are already spread thin. I do keep track of buyins in txt on my phone for the simple reason that jotting it down helps prevent mistakes. Seeing it in writing is like a QA step.

Some other notes
- If 2 sets i dont mix them. If player moves or we consolidate I will swap chips out, i just prefer that while other may mix same color/denom chips across sets.
- Do not let people help or rush you. Both only lead to mistakes. You take the money you get the chips ... even a trusted player trying to help creates mistakes at times.

Good luck

 

[TheYeti]

Casinos can have hundreds of tables...guess how many banks they have?

 

[Highli99]

Casinos can have hundreds of tables...guess how many banks they have?

I get what you’re saying but also each table may have its own bank for converting cash to chips. Obviously chips to cash will only happen At the cage.

Fwiw I am 100% in the one bank no tracking spreadsheet crowd.

 

[krafticus]

1 bank per player, and google sheet, excel sheet, and I'd probably download something else, just in case.

Seriously, 1 bank per house is all you need, and there is no need to track anything. Take money, give chips of equal $. Don't let anyone else touch the $ or the chips, and you will be fine.

 

[rcamp014]

1 bank per player, and google sheet, excel sheet, and I'd probably download something else, just in case.

Love this idea! Haha.

1 banker per player. Haha

 

[Frogzilla]

Has your bank ever been short, and if so how did you address it? With two banks at least you know what table it happened on.

I’d still do one bank but it’s a consideration.

 

[springbox]

Curious why people don't seem to like spreadsheets. I usually write down buy-ins and cash-outs on a slip of paper just so I know I'm taking in and giving out the same amount of money. I suppose it's not really necessary given you're taking $ and giving equal chips, and then the opposite at the end. Doesn't take me any time to do, although I could see some players not like having that tracked. I don't keep the sheets though.

 

[Highli99]

Has your bank ever been short, and if so how did you address it? With two banks at least you know what table it happened on.

I’d still do one bank but it’s a consideration.

Another benefit of two banks. You can make one bank the “bad bank” and all shortages are its responsibility. Then the good bank can create a new set of chips and loan them to the “bad bank” to facilitate payment of the shortages. The payment will be in chips, not cash. Then the “bad bank” will close and the “good bank” will announce that the new set of chips is only redeemable at the old bank in the event of a government bailout.

Problem solved!

 

[rcamp014]

Has your bank ever been short, and if so how did you address it? With two banks at least you know what table it happened on.

I’d still do one bank but it’s a consideration.

Honestly dont know. The reason is…I started the bank with $250 bucks with various denominations to help me with payouts for all the people bringing in just $20/$50 bills.

The only thing I currently do is count the bank money before I start taking buy-ins and after I pay everyone out.

 

[Jeff]

Hosting my first Two Table Cash Game this Saturday and one of my regulars mentioned how excited he is for the game but then said “You are gonna have two separate Banks….right?!”

My immediate thought was “No”. I mean I have to pay everyone out….so why would it matter.

But wanted to ask the group….is there a reason for me two separate the banks due to having two tables?

Also one more question…I am considering keeping a spreadsheet of buy-ins/re-buys….anyone else do this?

No spreadsheet, one bank (with one exception)... When there are guest sets on different tables at the same time at meetups, I've had the guest set is banked by the set owner.

 

[utgtrash]

i do record banks separately in my regular game, for the two tables. However, i'm not suggesting you do this, it's mainly because sometimes i do have to hold a due to/due from for a few days since sometimes the losses exceed the cash brought and i need a couple days to settle etc.

if you are doing a cash up front game, where you don't really even need to record any numbers, it's just what chips you've bought and currently have, then i don't see much of a reason why you should have separate banks, or why a player would even care.

 

[tabletalker7]

Ok two questions here.

1. Two banks? Why?!? You have one "chip vault". Players buy chips from said chip vault to play. If there is only one vault, there is only one bank.

2. Spreadsheet? BE WARNED, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE TRACKED! That being said, I do have a few players that do want to know how they have been doing periodically. My response to that wasn't a spreadsheet, it was making a basic point of sale terminal.

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• tabletalker7
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Cash register

It gives me the ability to add someone to the system. I have them sit at the laptop and fill out the customer page and the supplier page. They buy chips as a customer. They sell chips back as a supplier. When they ask how they are doing, I can print their data AND ONLY THEIR DATA. Not only did it allow me to handle the data transactions for those select few, but it also let me track other things, like what items on the hot dog roller get eaten by players vs left to become dried out dog treats. It also gives me a secure place to store the money in play. The "chip vault" has it money in the drawer. My money is in my pocket.

 

[MeridianFC]

 

[Mr Winberg]

is there a reason for me two separate the banks due to having two tables?

No

I am considering keeping a spreadsheet of buy-ins/re-buys….anyone else do this?

Not a spreadsheet, but I write a ledger per person and we settle the difference at cash-out. But this is only because Swedes don't use cash, we use an app.
Using cash I would opt for "money for chips" without any paperwork.

 

[LowerBama1714]

One set of chips, one bank. If you are using two different sets of chips, perhaps a guest set, then run a separate bank for each chip set.

No spreadsheet.

That’s what I was going to say…that would be sweet bc more chips is more cool. But, what happens when folks are jumping around from table to table? That would be bullshit.

 

[rcamp014]

Another question….

What is the etiquette for switching tables? If a person decides to re-buy in after busting can they pick the table they wanna play at?

 

[krafticus]

Another question….

What is the etiquette for switching tables? If a person decides to re-buy in after busting can they pick the table they wanna play at?

It depends. Most of the time, I’d have no issues with it. Sometimes you run bad in a seat/table and want a change. If there is space, I say go for it. If there is no space, you can ask anyone if they want to switch tables. If they don’t, then I’d keep the player where they are until a seat opens.

 

[rcamp014]

thanks! Appreciate it!

 

[RocAFella1]

2 tables, 1 bank.

 

[glynn]

Curious to know where your friend was coming from with that question. Please ask!

Casinos can have hundreds of tables...guess how many banks they have?

And then raise this point.

 

[inca911]

My happy place is having chips from multiple tables to be able to play all of them! My max is four separate sets at one time, with two bagged up in reserve. That was a fun time. If a table gets slow or needs some balancing, a quick move solves the problem.

I never count the bank, I just pay attention to cash and chips. If I’m running the bank, I’m responsible for any shortage so what’s the point?