TINA Card Mold Stacking.. (1 Viewer)

[ChippinUp]

Good afternoon PCF!

I’m wondering if anyone has any feedback on the stacking or lack of with the Tina CM?

I currently have Crazy Horse(Milano) CC and am happy with the stacking they allow. I hate tippy stacks and was worried about the TINA chips as I don’t have enough samples to test this on my table and compare to my current chips. Will the CM chips stack 40 high without issue? Just as an example.

I did try searching for the info but can’t seem to find anything specific to their stacking performance.

Thanks again!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

I've got 43mm Tina no-mold textured chips, so there's a lot of different little variations in the chips, but mine stack pretty fantastically. They're generally new, only played 5 games with them (20ish hours played), but I love them. I've stacked an entire rack...but it took me some time, especially after drinks.

 

[ChippinUp]

I've got 43mm Tina no-mold textured chips, so there's a lot of different little variations in the chips, but mine stack pretty fantastically. They're generally new, only played 5 games with them (20ish hours played), but I love them. I've stacked an entire rack...but it took me some time, especially after drinks.

Good to hear. Since the chips I am getting are 39mm card molds no texture I’m hopeful they perform similarly. I know a lot of members have them but every time I see photos they are always in the standard 20 chip stacks

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Good to hear. Since the chips I am getting are 39mm card molds no texture I’m hopeful they perform similarly. I know a lot of members have them but every time I see photos they are always in the standard 20 chip stacks

Just wanted to throw the 2 cents in. Keep in touch! Definitely a different feel and Im looking to pick up a big tournament set. Need to know.

 

[MichaelBubly]

I find my 39mm card molds don't stack very well. Some stack great, but I have a lot of spinners and after a few uses I find they aren't very stable in stacks of a barrel or higher.

 

[ChippinUp]

Just wanted to throw the 2 cents in. Keep in touch! Definitely a different feel and Im looking to pick up a big tournament set. Need to kno

I find my 39mm card molds don't stack very well. Some stack great, but I have a lot of spinners and after a few uses I find they aren't very stable in stacks of a barrel or higher.

well that’s concerning if a barrel is unstable. The feedback seems to be so mixed on these. Some say they have few to no spinners and others reporting a lot of them. I think quality control coincides with the price point. Second guessing my decision

 

[harrysallout]

Couple videos with stacks of 40.

Note : These have not been felted.

https://imgur.com/oKVbMJZ

https://imgur.com/hOtAqee

 

[ChippinUp]

Couple videos with stacks of 40.

https://imgur.com/oKVbMJZ

https://imgur.com/hOtAqee

You guys are the best. The video was really helpful but also confused because it seems like feedback is mixed. I don’t mind if I have to remove a handful of spinners. These stacks of 40 look solid to me?

 

[upNdown]

You guys are the best. The video was really helpful but also confused because it seems like feedback is mixed. I don’t mind if I have to remove a handful of spinners. These stacks of 40 look solid to me?

I dunno man but I just tried that with 40 stacks of two different Paulsons and they wobbled a lot more than those stacks.
I guess cards mold > Paulson.
Son of a B!

 

[MichaelBubly]

https://imgur.com/a/LNzWdxP

Here's my attempt. Still slightly chalky card mold chips vs CPC. Brand new they will stack well. After the chalkiness wears off I find they get very slick.

CPCs did have some movement on the bottom chip, but I think it's more to due with how solidly they stack. They want to topple together. The cards molds spin off lose chips.

 

[khp]

https://imgur.com/a/LNzWdxP

Here's my attempt. Still slightly chalky card mold chips vs CPC. Brand new they will stack well. After the chalkiness wears off I find they get very slick.

CPCs did have some movement on the bottom chip, but I think it's more to due with how solidly they stack. They want to topple together. The cards molds spin off lose chips.

The CMs still seem pretty stable since no one does this.

I have no idea if this will help, but have you tried washing the CMs? Maybe your natural oils got on them.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

I find my 39mm card molds don't stack very well. Some stack great, but I have a lot of spinners and after a few uses I find they aren't very stable in stacks of a barrel or higher.

I had the same exp.
Others had great experience too.
I guess it depends on the batch.

 

[MichaelBubly]

The CMs still seem pretty stable since no one does this.

I have no idea if this will help, but have you tried washing the CMs? Maybe your natural oils got on them.

I think my issue with them is that with the amount of spinners, I am constantly trying to keep them straight as they slide around on the loose spinners with the normal bumps on the table.

I haven't tried washing them, but I would guess it would make it worse currently. The factory chalkiness helps keep them stable. But after it wears off the spinners are really bad.

Possible I've just been unlucky, but I find spinners are about 1 in every barrel. Sometimes 2.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

@Ben8257 also had experienced CM that wear badly.
But again others (many) also had good experience.
I don't think you'll have any certainty (except if you pay more).
So in the end pay more or gambol. You've the choice.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

Possible I've just been unlucky, but I find spinners are about 1 in every barrel. Sometimes 2.

That's about the same ratio of spinners I had.

 

[upNdown]

That's about the same ratio of spinners I had.

So 7-8% spinners? For the price of these chips, why not just pick them out and throw them away?

 

[BGinGA]

^ Exactly. Order 10% extras and ditch the rejects (spinners, misprints, misaligned, and/or broken). Still a win at these prices.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

So 7-8% spinners? For the price of these chips, why not just pick them out and throw them away?

I know, it's an easy fix.
It's just not my philosphy. Same goes with clothes, ...
But I've no issue with someone doing that way.

 

[Johnblue]

I know, it's an easy fix.
It's just not my philosphy. Same goes with clothes, ...
But I've no issue with someone doing that way.

I do that with paulsons, so I would do it with these too. Even factory fresh paulsons have warped chips sometimes.

I Always have ordered extra (when possible) to account for bad chips.

Plus it’s kind of a pet peeve of mine to have extra spares. Worst nightmare losing a chip and having a 99 chips in a rack.

Poor @TheChipRoom gets orders of 324 x $1, 324 x $5, 214 x $25 etc… haha

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

I'm also always buying spares (10 of each denom usually) for my sets to cover potential losses. But buying more to cover foreseeable manufacturing defects, I can't stand with it personally.

As you said, having an incomplete barrel or rack would not be nice.

You're also correct about the fact that fresh clay chips can have issues. For CPC, you get for free the extra chips produced (inherent to their manufacturing process I guess) which is more than enough to cover the eventual bad ones without having to order spares. I don't know if Paulson/GPI does that as I never had the opportunity to directly order at them ahah. But let's be honest, nothing is free in this world and it's somehow included in the price.

By writing this I'll in fact convince myself that in the end Tina is very flexible and you can décide yourself with the quality control you want with your chips ahah.

The only remaining concern would then be how they wear. Some experienced horrible behaviour as soon as the texture wears off. Some other had zero issues.

 

[Nymor]

I've got a few spinners in my CM set but tracking them down is an art in itself.

My chips are all double sided and I've noticed the spinning happens when 2 of the same particular side are against each other. So if I stack all the chips the same way then I get no spinning but if I stack them so side "A" is against another side "A" then it might spin. If I have a spinner then turning that chip the other way up often gets rid of it. Side "B" against side "B" never spins. This is the same for 39 & 43mm chips.

So this says to me that either the blanks may have a slight warp before printing or that the printing process itself creates the warp. I'm not sure which side is printed first/second - but it's consistant one way or the other. (edit: pretty obv really)

A few times I get real free spinners and other times the spinning will stop as soon as I let go. I do have a few spares but will not be swapping any out or putting them into the sample sets I have.

It's a slight annoyance but not the end of the world although it would be good for the future if Tina et al could track down and eliminate it.

 

[ChippinUp]

I've got a few spinners in my CM set but tracking them down is an art in itself.

My chips are all double sided and I've noticed the spinning happens when 2 of the same particular side are against each other. So if I stack all the chips the same way then I get no spinning but if I stack them so side "A" is against another side "A" then it might spin. If I have a spinner then turning that chip the other way up often gets rid of it. Side "B" against side "B" never spins. This is the same for 39 & 43mm chips.

So this says to me that either the blanks may have a slight warp before printing or that the printing process itself creates the warp. I'm not sure which side is printed first/second - but it's consistant one way or the other. (edit: pretty obv really)

A few times I get real free spinners and other times the spinning will stop as soon as I let go. I do have a few spares but will not be swapping any out or putting them into the sample sets I have.

It's a slight annoyance but not the end of the world although it would be good for the future if Tina et al could track down and eliminate it.

I’m considering cancelling my order with Tina given the mixed feedback. I reached out to her and since my chips are not being produced until early Feb she said I have some time to decide and also willing to refund the payment.

Although the price point is great I feel like the spinner issue would drive me nuts. Not knowing what “batch” I may get is starting to seem like a risk I don’t want to take

 

[Nymor]

I’m considering cancelling my order with Tina given the mixed feedback. I reached out to her and since my chips are not being produced until early Feb she said I have some time to decide and also willing to refund the payment.

Although the price point is great I feel like the spinner issue would drive me nuts. Not knowing what “batch” I may get is starting to seem like a risk I don’t want to take

Obviously it's up to you but I'm not regretting getting CM chips and with regard to spinners you have to spin them for it to happen - doesn't happen on it own - so when they're just stacked there they're fine.

While I'd rather not have any spinners at all I don't mind them that much - my biggest concern was the edge alignment and out of ~900 chips I have 1 that was misaligned so more than happy with how it all worked out.

 

[Silver_Fiend]

I’m considering cancelling my order with Tina given the mixed feedback. I reached out to her and since my chips are not being produced until early Feb she said I have some time to decide and also willing to refund the payment.

Although the price point is great I feel like the spinner issue would drive me nuts. Not knowing what “batch” I may get is starting to seem like a risk I don’t want to take

Considering that I cant even buy new labels for my casino chips for the cost of these, I don't mind if a few are bad.

 

[harrysallout]

I’m considering cancelling my order with Tina given the mixed feedback. I reached out to her and since my chips are not being produced until early Feb she said I have some time to decide and also willing to refund the payment.

Although the price point is great I feel like the spinner issue would drive me nuts. Not knowing what “batch” I may get is starting to seem like a risk I don’t want to take

Although spinners can be annoying realistically when are you pushing in stacks of 40. In the stacks that were shaky it was maybe 1-3 chips that you could clearly identify causing the issue. For the inexpensive price it is something I can live with.

 

[ChippinUp]

Although spinners can be annoying realistically when are you pushing in stacks of 40. In the stacks that were shaky it was maybe 1-3 chips that you could clearly identify causing the issue. For the inexpensive price it is something I can live with.

If it wasn’t for the insane shipping costs getting them to Canada I would agree. When you factor shipping, exchange and duty charges it starts to add up. I may hold off for the tiki chips or a used set in the classified. Undecided but lots of good feedback. Thanks again guys

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

That's what I like in this forum : sharing feedback to allow the next ones to make educated decisions

 

[philhut]

So 7-8% spinners? For the price of these chips, why not just pick them out and throw them away?

I ordered 3575 cards mold customs expecting to toss ~20%, In the end 2 broke in shipping and the rest were all very good from the early alternate supplier "Anita" who was slightly cheaper than "Tina". Some of my chips have seen play in a cash and tourney on different days with my CPC's playing in the cash/tourney portion of the night. Players love HSI's so are hard to break away from them.

I believe with extensive use the ceramic cards chips will become slick once worn smooth. This should take some time however and if you only play games a few times a year this may never happen. High use facilities like anything will require replacements and higher end options in that case may last longer.

As for handling they are huge upgrade from China Clays in my opinion, I had a big set of Crazy horse chips, played them once and after having Pauslons in the past needed higher end.

I’m considering cancelling my order with Tina given the mixed feedback. I reached out to her and since my chips are not being produced until early Feb she said I have some time to decide and also willing to refund the payment.

Although the price point is great I feel like the spinner issue would drive me nuts. Not knowing what “batch” I may get is starting to seem like a risk I don’t want to take

Where are you in Canada? I am in Georgina Ontario, I have cards molds "Anita's" and various Paulson's if you want to get a sampling of what's avail.

 

[Silver_Fiend]

If it wasn’t for the insane shipping costs getting them to Canada I would agree. When you factor shipping, exchange and duty charges it starts to add up. I may hold off for the tiki chips or a used set in the classified. Undecided but lots of good feedback. Thanks again guys

Do you have any friends or family in the states you need to visit? HAve the chips shipped to them and just carry them back home.

 

[ChippinUp]

Do you have any friends or family in the states you need to visit? HAve the chips shipped to them and just carry them back home.

I thought about that but nothing really planned with few relatives in the US…