Selling obsolete CPC chips? (1 Viewer)

[Winstonn]

Hi everyone,

I'm new here and after lurking for some time I have come to the conclusion that I have some kind of crazy urge to have clay pokerchips in my life... I'm sure most of you can relate to having that?

Anyway, I would love to acquire my first clay cash set and am trying to decide if I want to go for casino used or for a custom CPC set.

My question is:

The setup i'm looking for is 300 chips consisting of 1s, 5s, 25s and 100s. CPC needs a minimum order of 100 / denomination making a total of at least 400 chips. Is it possible for me to sell the obsolete chips as to end up with my intended 3 racks?

And if so, are people interested in custom chips like that?

Or is that not done?

After tinkering for a while, I came up with this. So that would be kind of the direction I would go with this.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

You could always order 25 extra of each denomination and then sell 25 sample sets.

 

[MrWitti]

Have you thought about breakdown of the set that you keep? Does it fit your needs?

 

[Winstonn]

Breakdown for my 300 piece set would be:

$1 x 100
$5 x 160
$25 x 20
$100 x 20

 

[WedgeRock]

You could always order 25 extra of each denomination and then sell 25 sample sets.

My thoughts exactly. Start a thread asking if anyone wants to buy sample sets at cost + shipping from you to them.

If you get interest from 25 people, you can add to your order in a sufficient quantity to get to the minimum.

 

[mipevi]

So is this for a 6max 1/1 no-limit and/or pot-limit game?

 

[Winstonn]

I'm aiming for 1/1 no limit. Buy in 300 - 500.
4 people each getting this:

$1 x 20
$5 x 36
$25 x 4
$100 x 2

If anything looks off in my thinking process, be sure to tell me.

 

[WedgeRock]

Add two moe buyin stacks and you are set. And you won't have to worry if your game grows.

 

[upNdown]

For your purposes, I'd consider no $100's, more $25's, more $5's, and fewer $1's.

 

[mipevi]

It's always good to plan for a slightly bigger game (either more players or higher stakes). Your current breakdown would work for up to 6 players with $500 total buy-in:

$1 x 15
$5 x 22
$25 x 3
$100 x 3

Upping the stakes to 1/2 would be problematic though. If you are set on just 300 chips, I would get:

$1 x 100
$5 x 120
$25 x 40
$100 x 40

This gives you a total bank of $5700, which would allow you to later add a $500 of some kind (plaque?) if you need it. Still totally playable for up to 6 players, for a $500 buy-in I'd use:

$1 x 15
$5 x 17
$25 x 4
$100 x 3

You don't need any more fives, it's easy enough to make change when necessary. If you want more fives, then I'd recommend getting a set of 400 chips and adding some $500's as well. If you choose the custom route, take into account that any later re-orders will likely have color variation compared to the original chips (this is normal), so it would be wise to get all the chips you'll ever need in the same order.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Nice design. I agree with everyone else, get 400 (or more chips) if you can afford it.

Though I wouldn't be as worried about the colors not matching as I was before I placed my order. I have received some sample set from other members that have some of the same colors as my chips and I can't see a difference in them.

 

[upNdown]

My suggestion is based on the idea that you only want 300 chips, but need to order at least 100 per denomination. I don't know how much luck you'd have, selling off stacks of $100's and $25's. I think your best chances of selling extras is as sample sets. So if you order 200 $5's, and 100 each of $1's and $25's, and you're able to sell off 30 sample sets, you'd be left with:
70 x $1
170 x $5
70 x $25
That's 310 chips for a bank of $2670
Starting stacks of $300
15 x $1
37 x $5
4 x $25
Leaving you around $1400 for rebuys.
Granted, if you do $500 starting stacks, you'd only have a bit more than one rebuy in the bank. But I'm not sure how else to realistically work it, given your original parameters.

 

[DJ Mack]

CPC needs a minimum order of 100 / denomination making a total of at least 400 chips. Is it possible for me to sell the obsolete chips as to end up with my intended 3 racks?

That's not quite correct. You need at least 400 chips, not necessarily 100 of each. They might frown on doing only 10 of a given chip but when I ordered my 44mms I had three unique chips, thus a minimum of 300. The final order (with pre-ordered samples) totaled 317 chips broken down something like 210/84/23 and it was fine.

 

[links_slayer]

edit: ^^ beat me to it

I'd confirm with CPC but you don't need 100 per denom last time I ordered - just one denom per 100 ordered. Has this changed?

 

[upNdown]

You need at least 400 chips, not necessarily 100 of each.

If that's the case then ignore all of my ramblings.

 

[jja412]

Love the design.
"Old Man Peabody used to own all of this. He had this crazy idea, about breeding pine trees."

 

[Winstonn]

Thanks everyone for the great advice.

Since i'm from Belgium and most of the users here are from the US I don't know if it's a great idea for me to send out many sample sets. I don't know the costs of sending sample sets internationally.

So maybe I should indeed up the number of total chips and drop the $100s maybe.

Or maybe I should invest in the real deal and go for casino used.

edit: ^^ beat me to it

I'd confirm with CPC but you don't need 100 per denom last time I ordered - just one denom per 100 ordered. Has this changed?

That would be amazing. Though, this is what is stated on the CPC price list:

We require a minimum order of 300 chips. Within a 300 chip set you can have up to 3 unique chips. In a 400 chip set up to 4, and in a 500 up to 5 etc. Orders for 39mm and 44mm chips cannot be combined. Minimum order size for add-ons and re-orders will be evaluated on a case by case basis and lowered if possible.

 

[links_slayer]

That would be amazing. Though, this is what is stated on the CPC price list:

We require a minimum order of 300 chips. Within a 300 chip set you can have up to 3 unique chips. In a 400 chip set up to 4, and in a 500 up to 5 etc. Orders for 39mm and 44mm chips cannot be combined. Minimum order size for add-ons and re-orders will be evaluated on a case by case basis and lowered if possible.

That's what we're saying. For a 400 chip order you can get:

200
100
80
20

 

[Winstonn]

Ok now i feel stupid

This is getting interesting.

Thanks!

 

[DJ Mack]

Though, this is what is stated on the CPC price list:

We require a minimum order of 300 chips. Within a 300 chip set you can have up to 3 unique chips. In a 400 chip set up to 4, and in a 500 up to 5 etc.

That is precisely what they've stated every time I've ordered so I'm thinking the policy has not changed.

Ok now i feel stupid

No, the wording can be confusing because people start doing the math in their head "300 chips, 3 unique chips, 100 of each." You're not the first to wonder about this for sure.

 

[BGinGA]

Since i'm from Belgium and most of the users here are from the US I don't know if it's a great idea for me to send out many sample sets. I don't know the costs of sending sample sets internationally.

You can always opt to have somebody in the US receive all of the sample sets from you, and then re-ship them to the rest of the US buyers. CPC may even ship them seperately to the reshipper, saving the chips from taking an expensive and unnecessary overseas trip and back.

 

[BGinGA]

maybe I should invest in the real deal and go for casino used chips.

^^FYP

And no, the first thing you should do is get samples. Lots of samples.

Samples of used casino chips (both Paulson molds), new casino chips (both Paulson molds), CPC samples (of all of the molds that interest you, because they are not all the same in terms of feel and play characteristics), and anything else you are considering purchasing.

And not just a single chip of each, either. You need enough of each to actually evaluate how the chips feel/sound/handle when stacked, shuffled, and played with each other. Choosing the right mold for you can only be done by you, and in the case of customs, will significantly affect your inlay design.

Get samples -- it's the first step in all things chipping. Doing anything else puts you at risk of making an expensive uninformed decision that can result in spending a lot of money on an end product that you really don't even like.

Some newbies (mistakenly) complain that samples are an expensive undertaking, and try to cut corners on costs. But it's much cheaper than ordering an entire set of something only to find out that they don't meet your expectations.

And you can always re-sell those samples later, to another person who's in the same chip-decision situation as you are now..... so essentially, getting samples before you buy is like free insurance.

 

[Nex]

I'd confirm with CPC but you don't need 100 per denom last time I ordered - just one denom per 100 ordered. Has this changed?

That is precisely what they've stated every time I've ordered so I'm thinking the policy has not changed.

It's still one denom per 100 chips ordered (no matter how those are split up) in general, but if you want small amounts of a denom they might add a premium for doing so. They do not only look at add-ons and re-orders on a case by case basis as stated on the website, but for new orders as well. Just contact David and throw the design details as well as chip amounts at him.

Since i'm from Belgium and most of the users here are from the US I don't know if it's a great idea for me to send out many sample sets. I don't know the costs of sending sample sets internationally.

Just check with your state postal service. Sample sets don't take up much space or weight, you can get away with stuffing them into a bubblewrap envelope. I can only tell for Deutsche Post which won't help you, but they offer fairly good prices on flat-rate 500g shipping to anywhere in the world (compared to sending a parcel). You do need to think about padding the chips so they won't get scratched, and for non-EU international shipments you must add a customs declaration on the outside.

 

[Toby]

Since i'm from Belgium and most of the users here are from the US I don't know if it's a great idea for me to send out many sample sets. I don't know the costs of sending sample sets internationally.

It's not uncommon for international orders to get the sample sets delivered to a PCF partner based in the US. I did that on my last order. Saves a load on both import duties (as fewer chips are shipping to you domestically) and US/Canada-based forum members don't have to pay as much for shipping.

My CPC order was main set invoiced to me, combined sample set order invoiced to someone in the US. Worked out great and reduced cost for everyone involved (except the US partner, who had all the admin/packaging/posting to do!!).