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RichMahogany

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I've come to the realization that I hate poker. Truly fucking hate it. I cannot stand the variance and bad beats. I know that it's part of the game but all it does is put me on insane monkey tilt and has caused many keyboards to break.

I've been asking myself over the past week why I continue to play a game that doesn't do much more for me than piss me off and cost me money. Why have I wasted time, money and mental capacity into a game that I think is mostly bullshit? After losing another keyboard about 2 hrs ago to tilt and variance, I decided that I'm over it. Logitech is kind of bummed out that I wont be buying a new keyboard every month or so but my bank account and credit card balances will get a boost.

Might keep my new set of Mayfair Club hybrids just in case my friends want to play a small stakes tournament every once in a while, but most everything else will be up for sale sometime next week.

Sorry for the rant. I'm still tilting and needed to vent.
 
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Maybe take up Yoga to help deal with the stress. Possibly move down in stakes if the amount of money lost due to variance is causing these issues.

Upswings and downswings are all common. But if they really are causing you that much stress Poker may not be the best game.

Hope you change your mind and maybe take a step back to evaluate more of your game to help figure out if it is just variance or if you have bigger holes that need filling.

Good luck on your journey.
 
Yes. I feel your pain. Give it a rest and reflect on whether it’s your play or just luck.
 
I know that sometimes it is definitely my play, and just luck in others. I already play the lowest stake SnGs and people call large raises and bets with some crazy, random hands that seem to get there more often than not. I even purposely donked off my online BR a few weeks ago so that I wouldn’t be tempted to play and get put on tilt again. Deposited more money this week after a break and played one SnG where no matter what I tried, every hand I had got drawn out on. The only hand I won of the 10(ish) that I played was a walk in the big blind.

I’m still too pissed off to do it now, but I’ll be online soon again to donk off my roll again in a cash game by going all in every hand. I don’t want to even bother tried to do anything else with it since the money can’t be withdrawn.
 
Take some time off before making any rash decisions. 6-12 months is not unreasonable.
This. Best not to make any irreversable decisions right now. Keep the chips if you can; you never know if you can get them back. If you feel the same way after some time has passed then so be it.
 
I don’t play online for the exact same reason. I’m convinced the algorithms are built to ensure the entire table has a piece of the board.

Ive experienced multiple crazy bad beats online in single sessions online, which I have never seen live.

Just stick to live poker, it’s much more bearable. And beatable.
 
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Yup, this is why I can't do online. Just live games and casino. Online play is just chaos and luck. At least around a table with friends you can connect and enjoy the actual game in a different way.

Either way, taking some weeks off and refocusing might be the move. But I hope no matter what things work out for you personally, with or without poker.
 
Never make an important decision while on life-tilt. Chill for a while, consider what has happened, and what your options are. If after all that, the solution remains the same, there will still be a market for the chips.
 
I agree with all of the above statements about taking time off. I also agree that online play, especially at low limits is rediculious and almost unbearable. It seems that there are so many more bad beats, and so many coolers. I honestly believe that it is all set up that way to increase the rake that the sites take in.

I was in a pretty bad slump a few years ago playing 1/3 at the casinos. I took some time off and then I actually moved up to playing 2/5. For the past 2 years i have been playing almost exclusively 2/5 when I go to the casino, and i have had a really good run. I seem to focus more when the money is more significant, and shit, sometimes even my bluffs work. I have found that my game is more suited to the 2/5 game than 1/3.

If you do return to the game, consider playing only live, and also maybe trying to move up a level in play. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but if the stakes don't matter much, and you are playing against bad players, it is hard to really focus and it is often times harder to play against bad players. Atleast it was for me.
 
It's good -- and healthy -- to vent. Making rash decisions when tilted is not. This too will pass.


So true even the the good times pass

One thing - if there's a NEED to sell then sell.

The throwing money away money thing... i mean... If this was someone else would you say their decision making might be a little off?

i don't know a poker player who has not had this feeling in someway. including me at least once.

In a year from now the money will still be there so will the chips but the feeling wont. There is no NEED to act.

don't add regrets to the equation. They last a lifetime.
 
1: Stop playing low-limit online poker (or most any online poker).

2: Step back and re-evaluate after you do #1, you probably will have a different outlook.

GL sir. :)
 
Sorry to hear, but this happens to all of us. Some of us play poorly, some run bad, and whether it's a week, several weeks or several months, it will all pass. But if you do think you may not be playing well and or have some serious leaks in your game, accept some constructive criticism and try to improve your game. But the first and most important thing you can do NOW is to take a few days off from playing. Enjoy the holidays, go out with friends, drink, watch TV, play some video games, or whatever that keeps you pre-occupied. Come back and play when you have 'missed' the game.
 
Don't sell anything for six months; especial any irreplaceable sets. I agree, stay away from low stake online games.
 
I had a day today that’s making me feel the same way. I lost two live tournaments; one deep stack one stupid turbo. I was card dead all day, and every time I made a move I ran into KK. I saw one guy get AA two hands in a row while I was mired in an endless string of 74s. On the way home, I vowed to smash all my chips and burn all my cards.
Poker can very much suck. Maybe I need a break. But today I hate it.
 
Sorry to hear of your despair and I am sending wishes for rungood your way. But keep some chipes man!

And perhaps consider a computer recycling center for cheap keyboards.
 
I don't play online for this reason. Hope you find a good group of people to play live with, as I find that it's easier, even when variance comes knocking. I seem to be the sucker at every table I sit at recently, but I still have fun.

And I have chips inbound. That gives me something to look forward to. :)
 
The way I see online poker, the smaller stakes games are going to be composed of a) people who don't realise going all in with J7 is a bad idea and then get lucky and B) people who do realise it's a bad idea, but think, "fuck it, it's only two dollars."
 
I too have had the same feeling in the past. But I learned from it.

By the time I was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer, I was already cool with it, thanks to poker. I told my mom "well, I had a good run". A lot of people were expecting me to break down or something, but I learned from poker that sometimes you just can't win. All you can do is show grace and poise, no matter how dire things look. Not only will others see how you act and have greater respect for you, but you won't be poorly affected either.

Anger isn't in the cards. Anger begins in your head.

As for my cancer, I nailed my out, and I'm still here. The next year, I broke my back. The recovery took time, I still occasionally stumble when I walk, but I'm ok with that. We all know bad things will always happen... to everybody. The guy that still gets mad about it, simply hasn't suffered enough bad beats.

Poker is dumb, but it has taught me a lot.

Especially how to lose.
 
I too have had the same feeling in the past. But I learned from it.

By the time I was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer, I was already cool with it, thanks to poker. I told my mom "well, I had a good run". A lot of people were expecting me to break down or something, but I learned from poker that sometimes you just can't win. All you can do is show grace and poise, no matter how dire things look. Not only will others see how you act and have greater respect for you, but you won't be poorly affected either.

Anger isn't in the cards. Anger begins in your head.

As for my cancer, I nailed my out, and I'm still here. The next year, I broke my back. The recovery took time, I still occasionally stumble when I walk, but I'm ok with that. We all know bad things will always happen... to everybody. The guy that still gets mad about it, simply hasn't suffered enough bad beats.

Poker is dumb, but it has taught me a lot.

Especially how to lose.
Honored to have you with us PZ.

On a less serious note, it totally sounded like Lance Armstrong's quote from Dodgeball :p

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Take a few weeks off playing and use this time to plan hosting a PCF Meet Up. You'll meet a great, supportive group of people, learn a new bunch of games, play with some of the most excellent chips on earth and have fun playing poker. Plus, these folks tend to bring some delicious brews and wines along with them. After these three days are over, you'll forget all about those bad beats.
 

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