Official Worldwide Football (Soccer) Discussion Thread (60 Viewers)

[Jaxen]

I liked your post, especially as I am someone from a country who currently sees last 32 as a success. But I respectfully disagree with this. That's what VAR's there for, correcting mistakes. Not seeing the foul straight away might seem embarrassing for the ref, but he's only human. Off-sides, penalties etc are missed and corrected by VAR too, I don't think this is more embarrassing than those mistakes. IMO.

How do you miss something that's a straight red, let alone something bookable, at first glance? Straight red is reserved for intent to injure. Balogun wasn't even looking at the defender and where he landed is where he landed. At least Quansah of England went in studs up against the Mexican on Sunday. I think the world would have hated it less if FIFA said it'd change it to a yellow retroactively, which means something for yellow accumulation, which as a former sweeper/left back in three years of club/high school soccer, I hate. There comes a time and place in a game where you've just gotta dump a guy.
Prior to the tourney I said Team USA would underwhelm, instead they pleasantly surprised until they reached their level of incompetence.

 

[Himewad]

 

[Mr Winberg]

How do you miss something that's a straight red, let alone something bookable, at first glance?

He's human. Mistakes will always be made. I have refereed a lot myself (in another sport) and made a lot of mistakes. Just like the players do!

It's like saying "how do you miss an open goal". It happens!

Straight red is reserved for intent to injure.

Actually it's not. Where did you get that from, if I may ask?

Please read my quote here. Also, I encourage you to watch the short video I linked (if you have Facebook), it does a good job of explaining why red was correct. Please note that it's not my rule, I'm just explaining FIFA's rule.

Even if it is not deliberate, according to the laws of the game you get a red card if you endanger the safety of the opponent AND the outcome is serious enough.

Sweden had a similar situation in the Euros against Ukraine, think it was 2020(1). A Swede got to the ball first and kicked it legally, the Ukrainian was close and got the follow-through on his knee (serious impact). Straight red!

For those with facebook, here is an explanation of USA's red card and why it was the correct call:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1KMSMh53Be/

 

[SixSpeedFury]

Egypt got robbed. That VAR was bullshit.

 

[davislane]

The Egypt v Argentina game was a classic.

Although the foul given by VAR for the disallowed Egypt goal v no foul being given for the winning Argentina goal is a bone of contention.

I can’t help but think that the deck is stacked in favour of the big teams.

The curse of the 2-0 lead.

 

[owlbee]

VARgentina all tournament long

13 fouls for VARgentina and zero cards

 

[SixSpeedFury]

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They won. Analytically, at least.

 

[owlbee]

Hopefully Colombia beat Switzerland. Want to see CONMEBOL shithousery in the next round.

 

[Jaxen]

He's human. Mistakes will always be made. I have refereed a lot myself (in another sport) and made a lot of mistakes. Just like the players do!

It's like saying "how do you miss an open goal". It happens!


Actually it's not. Where did you get that from, if I may ask?

Please read my quote here. Also, I encourage you to watch the short video I linked (if you have Facebook), it does a good job of explaining why red was correct. Please note that it's not my rule, I'm just explaining FIFA's rule.

My 2 seasons of officiating soccer (end of '05-spring '07) were at the high school level, not pro and certainly not national competition. The only reds I ever issued were 2nd yellows. In training we talked about the coming together of 2 objects in motion and the 3 of us on our usual crew all played and operated with that perspective.

 

[Mr Winberg]

My 2 seasons of officiating soccer (end of '05-spring '07) were at the high school level, not pro and certainly not national competition. The only reds I ever issued were 2nd yellows. In training we talked about the coming together of 2 objects in motion and the 3 of us on our usual crew all played and operated with that perspective.

Maybe those were the rules you officiated under? But those aren't FIFA's rules.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

I thought the US had a fun, positive, attack oriented game, I enjoyed their matches. In fact, I was going to root for them against Belgium (who I felt wasn't as fun to watch up until that match).

That's one of the sad aspects of the whole red card situation, it pretty much turned the whole world against the US team even though it wasn't the team's fault. At least it caused me to root 100% for Belgium on pure principle.

But in four years I'll be happy to cheer for them again!

Same here.

I even have their jersey and à couple of LA Galaxy ones.