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Slight derail, but OP I urge you to reconsider your opinions on 6-max. The blinds are zero-sum, and the game of poker is built around winning them. Study some recommended preflop ranges and you will realize you get a much higher VPIP in 6max, which is just more poker in the same time investment.

6-max (or even 8-max) is the shiny silver lining in the poker covid cloud
I think it was less about the seating max, and more that a cold deck induced more tilt because of the COVID mandated measures.

1 ounce of discomfort becomes a gallon of irritation when you are missing everything.
 

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I don’t want to get into a covid debate.
But 6-max is the best poker imo.

my game is tailored to these and personally I love them. If you’re worried about losing blinds, you’re looking at it wrong. Your hands are more valuable so you should be widening your range at these tables.
 

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I don’t want to get into a covid debate.
But 6-max is the best poker imo.

my game is tailored to these and personally I love them. If you’re worried about losing blinds, you’re looking at it wrong. Your hands are more valuable so you should be widening your range at these tables.
It wasnt about losing blinds, it was hours of unplayable shit cards resulting in throwing away constant blinds.
 

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It wasnt about losing blinds, it was hours of unplayable shit cards resulting in throwing away constant blinds.
You could be card dead playing 8-9 handed as well though.


I agree I couldn’t handle the plexiglass or masks myself, I love the social aspect, but 6 max may be the best thing to come from this
 

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You could be card dead playing 8-9 handed as well though.


I agree I couldn’t handle the plexiglass or masks myself, I love the social aspect, but 6 max may be the best thing to come from this
If you like 6 handed, you know they'll be going back to full tables after this goes away. I wish it had been like vegas with drunk frat boys trying to impress people with how many chips they can push around. Half a half table of tight old regulars who wont pay you off for making hands makes it worse.
 

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I don’t want to get into a covid debate.
But 6-max is the best poker imo.

my game is tailored to these and personally I love them. If you’re worried about losing blinds, you’re looking at it wrong. Your hands are more valuable so you should be widening your range at these tables.
6 max PLO is my fav game
 

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Back in the first few months of this year fauchi and other experts were not recommending masks, even though the CDC has clearly known for decades how a respiratory virus is spread...why?
Because that was, and has been, the default position of the medical scientific community for as long as I've been alive. (actually, even longer)

It's still the position of those more interested in actual medical science & less interested in bureaucratic political careers. The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) would be one of them: https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

Of course, if you have a position that differs from the political elitist class & their mainstream media lackeys & rump-swabs, you don't count & no one hears about it.

& that's why Fauci "disappeared" from the radar for 2-3 weeks while he "got his political mind right" & came back touting masks as a miracle.

Which is nothing new.... Anyone that lived through the 80s has seen Fauci do that exact same politically choreographed two-step before... that's old news.

If you understand anything about physics (it's a thing they used to teach in school - ask your grandparents), know the relative sizes & characteristics of the properties involved, & apply some common sense, you know being told you can "stay safe" by placing a cocktail napkin or a piece of your wife's underwear over your pie-hole & schnozz is the equivalent of it being possible to catch a mosquito in a codfish net.

"Oh, but it the 'droplets' that you're catching."

Really?.... "droplet" is a relative term.... got a size range on the ones yer yappin' about? I don't care WHAT your girlfriend told you.... size matters Sparky.

Hold that piece of old wife-beater t-shirt someone sold your gullible *ss as a "mask" that you're wearin' up to the light.... can you see through it? 'Cause if ya can, & I'm betting you can.... you ain't stoppin' sh*t.

"Droplet", as far as your normal breath goes, can be as small as 0.3 to 8 micro meters. In millimeter terms, there's a couple zeros to the right of the decimal point there. You ain't seein' 8um without a microscope. (in some circles we call that size range an "aerosol"... just so you know)

Think I'm kidding?.... Ever seen anyone that wears glasses breathe on them to clean 'em? Where'd that "fog" come from that suddenly appeared on the lenses? What do you think that was?

The moisture "droplets" in their breath. They just gathered on the glass in a concentration dense enough for you to see 'em.

We exhale "droplets" all the time, only when we talk, cough, sneeze, etc do we apply enough force to dislodge ones large enough to see. The smallest ones come on a routine basis. We are over 60% liquid after all.

Now, is a 0.3um droplet/aerosol particle large enough to contain a virus? Well, I don't know about you, but I tend to think that something we can see with a microscope is large enough to contain something that the most powerful optical microscope on the planet can't. Yes Sunshine, 0.3 micro meters is larger than 5 nano meters. By a factor of about 60. (0.0003 vs. 0.000005)

& even if you were lucky enough to catch that "droplet" in your used underwear, it's only going to stay there long enough to be dislodged by your next exhalation blast.

& don't tell me I should feel safe wearing a Kotex over my face for hours on end soaking up all sorts of nasty-*ss crap & saving it for later. What an awesome concept... something didn't quite make it through the 1st time, let's give it multiple repeated attempts at the assault. Exactly what brand of genius thinks that's a good idea? Someone remind me never to trust my well-being to THAT guy.

Look, if you wanted to make the case that putting on a disposable mask only for as long as needed in a higher-risk space, & then actually DISPOSING of that mask immediately upon leaving that space might have a remote chance at tilting some of the odds slightly toward my favor, that might be something I'd have a hard time arguing with. However slight, it might move the needle just a tad. So sure, OK.

But, anything short of that.... you ain't stoppin' jack sh*t.
 
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This is my favorite post ever. I hope everyone here reads this more then once. God bless America. #MaskOff and I can not agree more with this post. If you dont agree u prob watch too much tv and are definitely being FOOLED
Because that was, and has been, the default position of the medical scientific community for as long as I've been alive. (actually, even longer)

It's still the position of those more interested in actual medical science & less interested in bureaucratic political careers. The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) would be one of them: https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

Of course, if you have a position that differs from the political elitist class & their mainstream media lackeys, you don't count & no one hears about it.

& that's why Fauci "disappeared" from the radar for 2-3 weeks while he "got his political mind right" & came back touting masks as a miracle.

Which is nothing new.... Anyone that lived through the 80s has seen Fauci do that exact same politically choreographed two-step before... that's old news.

If you understand anything about physics (it's a thing they used to teach in school - ask your grandparents), know the relative sizes & characteristics of the properties involved, & apply some common sense, you know being told you can "stay safe" by placing a cocktail napkin or a piece of your wife's underwear over your pie-hole & schnozz is the equivalent of it being possible to catch a mosquito in a codfish net.

"Oh, but it the 'droplets' that you're catching."

Really?.... "droplet" is a relative term.... got a size range on the ones yer yappin' about? I don't care WHAT your girlfriend told you.... size matters Sparky.

Hold that piece of old wife-beater t-shirt someone sold your gullible *ss as a "mask" that you're wearin' up to the light.... can you see through it? 'Cause if ya can, & I'm betting you can.... you ain't stoppin' sh*t.

"Droplet", as far as your normal breath goes, can be as small as 0.3 to 8 micro meters. In millimeter terms, there's a couple zeros to the right of the decimal point there. You ain't seein' 8um without a microscope. (in some circles we call that size range an "aerosol"... just so you know)

Think I'm kidding?.... Ever seen anyone that wears glasses breathe on them to clean 'em? Where'd that "fog" come from that suddenly appeared on the lenses? What do you think that was?

The moisture "droplets" in their breath. They just gathered on the glass in a concentration dense enough for you to see 'em.

We exhale "droplets" all the time, only when we talk, cough, sneeze, etc do we apply enough force to dislodge ones large enough to see. The smallest ones come on a routine basis. We are over 60% liquid after all.

Now, is a 0.3um droplet/aerosol particle large enough to contain a virus? Well, I don't know about you, but I tend to think that something we can see with a microscope is large enough to contain something that the most powerful optical microscope on the planet can't. Yes Sunshine, 0.3 micro meters is larger than 5 nano meters. By a factor of about 600. (0.003 vs. 0.000005)

& even if you were lucky enough to catch that "droplet" in your used underwear, it's only going to stay there long enough to be dislodged by your next exhalation blast.

& don't tell me I should feel safe wearing a Kotex over my face for hours on end soaking up all sorts of nasty-*ss crap & saving it for later. What an awesome concept... something didn't quite make it through the 1st time, let's give it multiple repeated attempts at the assault. Exactly what brand of genius thinks that's a good idea? Someone remind me never to trust my well-being to THAT guy.

Look, if you wanted to make the case that putting on a disposable mask only for as long as needed in a higher-risk space & then actually DISPOSING of that mask immediately upon leaving that space might have a remote chance at tilting some of the odds slightly toward my favor, that might be something I'd have a hard time arguing with. However slight, it might move the needle just a tad. So sure, OK.

But, anything short of that.... you ain't stoppin' jack sh*t.
 
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Hold that piece of old wife-beater t-shirt someone sold your gullible *ss as a "mask" that you're wearin' up to the light.... can you see through it? 'Cause if ya can, & I'm betting you can.... you ain't stoppin' sh*t.

And that’s why the recommendation early on was NOT to use a cloth that you can see through. Not a bandanna, not your shirt, not a scarf. Even the best common mask, the N95, is not completely effective.

Want to take your chances with less? Go right ahead. But I’m going put as much between me and the ignorant as possible.
 

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& based on observation of the practices of the general populous... I don't care if it is an N95... that ain't doing jack either. Partially or otherwise.

Want to "stay safe".... cut yourself off from any & all human contact for the duration.... anything other than that & you're takin' your chances right along with the rest of us.

This ain't a germ, it ain't a bacteria, it's a virus.... once it lands on your shores it's going to run it's course & there's precious little you can do about it short of managing to come up with a specific vaccine.

Question for the Mask Stasi.... Let's say I catch the Woohoohan Flu, & get over it. Given what we know about virus' & human physiology the odds that I can catch it again and/or be a carrier are astronomical. So, if none of this is political & it's "all about the science", why would I still need to wear a mask?

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Well, scientifically....if youve had the virus and recovered, and you’re only concerned with you, then a mask serves you no purpose.
However, you could carry the virus within you, and while not suffer the effects, still spread it to others not so fortunate.
 

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& when was that discovered... 2020?... the same year they "discovered" masks stop virus' dead?

Wait!!!! I get it..... masks probably work on THIS virus 'cause it's a cheap Chinese virus. It's not like those more sophisticated virus' like the Bird Flu & Swine Flu. Those knew how to get around a simple mask. :D
 

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Why?..... you realize that the vast majority of people in this country can get it, get over it, & never even know they had it, right?

Unless you're over age 65 or have some other underlying medical condition your chances of dying from this thing are microscopic to non-existent.

It's been great for our Legion tourneys... since most of the competition stopped we've been busting at the seams. :D
 

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Even the best common mask, the N95, is not completely effective.

Then why even bother? I see all these tools walking around stores with this crap on their face it makes me fucking laugh my ass off. Now add these people at a poker table passing plastic and chips around and I’d lose my voice preaching.
 

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Then why even bother? I see all these tools walking around stores with this crap on their face it makes me fucking laugh my ass off. Now add these people at a poker table passing plastic and chips around and I’d lose my voice preaching.
So the thinking is, if it isn’t going to stop 100% of what’s coming my way, go completely unprotected.
Got it.
 

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Unless you're over age 65 or have some other underlying medical condition your chances of dying from this thing are microscopic to non-existent.
And this is the “how this affects ME” thinking that’s so dangerous. True, if you’re young and healthy, it really isn’t much to really worry about, most likely a bad cold, what’s all the fuss about?
The REAL danger is that this leads to an increase in behavior that could unknowingly bring the virus home to people that ARE at risk.

I’m going to bow out of this conversation at this point. I wish everyone and their families have a safe and healthy holiday season.
 

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And this is the “how this affects ME” thinking that’s so dangerous. True, if you’re young and healthy, it really isn’t much to really worry about, most likely a bad cold, what’s all the fuss about?
The REAL danger is that this leads to an increase in behavior that could unknowingly bring the virus home to people that ARE at risk.

I’m going to bow out of this conversation at this point. I wish everyone and their families have a safe and healthy holiday season.
Ya we covered that already. Stay home or somewhere else with zero human contact. Zero. Telling my kids they can’t go to school and having my kindergarten kid home schooled because of fear is a deal I’ll never buy. It’s life changing for them. Poor kids. Telling me and my family we can’t work and thus feed our selves is almost 10x worse. Now any douche trying to tell me that a China made mask protects me in Walmart or at a poker table is a complete and total joke. If your scared go to church and good luck with the zero contact, I don’t wear a mask unless forced and when I do everyone around will know of my discomfort and disagreements with them. I feel it’s my duty and I know it’s my right as an American. God bless us all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!
 
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And this is the “how this affects ME” thinking that’s so dangerous.
BZZZZT!!!! Wrong answer.... but thank you for playing.... next contestant please :D

Want to see someone who IS actually dangerous to the most vulnerable amongst us? Well then take a look in a f*cking mirror there Skippy 'cause that would be you.

When you have the mindset that a worthless placebo is actually good for something, & that you are "keeping people safe" when you're really not. THAT's what's truly dangerous. So you can take your smug condescension & shove it straight up your ignorant *ss. (once you pull your head out of it first, of course)

You focus everyone's attention away from more important things & efforts that COULD prove useful in protecting the most vulnerable. & even compounded exponentially by those who are most at risk having the false sense that it's OK for them to be out waltzing around & perfectly "safe" so long as they're wearing a Depends around their head.

Masks & mass lockdowns aren't worth sh*t. Do what you can to protect the most at risk & let the rest of us get on with our lives & build up what's known as "herd immunity". What transpired over the summer only put a guarantee on what we're seeing now. I don't know why in h*ll everyone's so shocked & amazed that we have more cases of a flu type virus when flu season starts to kick-off. I can do that math in my head & see it coming. Especially when we did just about everything possible to preserve it in the off-season.

We haven't done a damn thing that's made a dent. The only thing that slowed it down over the summer was.... summer. Why anyone would think this flu-type virus behaves any different than any other flu-type virus is beyond me. I've stopped asking the question "Have we really gotten that stupid?"

However, if you really want to talk about truly dangerous... When the Governor of a state, in the alleged United States of America, can (or even thinks he can) get away with issuing an edict that places a limit on the number of people you can have over for Thanksgiving Dinner in your own d*mn house, & that Governor is not promptly stripped naked, smothered in honey & staked to the ground at the nearest ant farm, then we have a problem in this country far more serious than any silly virus the Chinese could ever dream of.
 

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@Colquhoun , you may want to learn how to make use of the "ignore" feature. It's really nice.

I wouldn't invite stupid people into my home, so why allow them in digitally?
 

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Yea, never allow yourself to see or hear anything that argues against the "wisdom of the elite(ist) pinhead/bureaucracy collective". It might cause a disruption to the pre-programmed diet fed to the hordes of all those "little people". & can cause serious distress to all the weak-minded we've cultivated. :D

Only listen to & follow exactly as you are told by your bureaucratic minders. NEVER think as an individual. Groupthink is the only way. All others must be silenced. Or, at minimum, sent off to a "re-education institution".
 

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@Colquhoun , you may want to learn how to make use of the "ignore" feature. It's really nice.

I wouldn't invite stupid people into my home, so why allow them in digitally?
Ya that or just keep up the insults. That seems to be the theme here by your little posse of tv zombies.
 
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Then why even bother? I see all these tools walking around stores with this crap on their face it makes me fucking laugh my ass off. Now add these people at a poker table passing plastic and chips around and I’d lose my voice preaching.

Bullet proof vests aren't 100% effective, yet law enforcement and military still use them. Seatbelts won't save you 100% of the time, but most people still wear them. My front door lock won't stop 100% of people, but I still lock it. And my mask won't stop 100% of virus transmission, but I still wear it.

It's about lowering the odds, at a population level, not an individual level. Sure you might still get covid with a mask, but the odds are lower, and the risk nil.
 

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Sure you might still get covid with a mask, but the odds are lower,
They way they are being used and policies implemented, the difference is so minuscule as to be non-existent.

At this point it's 100% politics & 0% science.

The way it's being done you're far more increasing your risk of catching something you wouldn't have otherwise as opposed to preventing anything.
 
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