Le Shuffler? (9 Viewers)

[minedelta]

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[BPTDirector]

Looks way too bulky.

 

[Eriks]

Looks way too bulky.

And it’s in the same price category as the shuffletech. Maybe it’s not possible but for me to consider a machine rather than doing it by hand, it needs to be like half that price or less yet still work way better than the cheap toy crap that now make up the market below ST.

 

[Rakrul]

I think you're all missing the point of an automatic shuffler here. If you have a table with pass the deck and every one shuffles properly, good for you. You probably don't need one. However, if you do get one and a dedicated "playing dealer", all the others would probably appreciate it. Added bonus, it doesn't matter if you got a card mechanic in your group.

If they don't know how to shuffle, you're gonna get an ulcer. Or brain hemorage.

If you're the dedicated (playing) dealer, you're saving some time but it might not be worth it. It might also save your wrists a bit if your technic is off.

 

[minedelta]

I actually got this on loaner to test it out from a friend. I haven’t got it to feed more than one card yet. The wheel design is the same style as an Ideal shuffler yet not mountable so what you see is what you get. I would say the size is smaller than an Ideal.

The OS feels modern but again with out having a successful test shuffle yet I can't give a full review.

Unless you want a non in table mounted shuffler and plan to have this on a side table. I still prefer in-table mount style for poker.

And it’s in the same price category as the shuffletech. Maybe it’s not possible but for me to consider a machine rather than doing it by hand, it needs to be like half that price or less yet still work way better than the cheap toy crap that now make up the market below ST.

Yea if you plan on trying to stay at half a shuffler tech price for sure it would be not possible for a decent one because even at this price range these are as the kids say "mid".

 

[minedelta]

Almost a week now and I still cant get this thing to feed correctly. I want to like it... the card adjustment is pretty difficult to adjust. I hate to need to switch decks after finding the settings for your current setup.

This is the worst adjusting screws up and down for thickness. Sometimes it feeds to much and Jams the other time it doesnt feed at all. So far I only been successful at feeding 1 card into the machine and wait fornthe to load then feed another 1 card into the machine.

The loud beep when it errors because of feeding issues is quite annoying

Here is a video of me just trying to empty out the carousel wheel of the cards I actually managed to feed 1 by 1.

I never even used a shuffle tech before but right now shuffle tech winning this if I had to choose between the two. There is only room from improvement from here if they want to actually produce something that's easier to use maybe a V2 or V3 will work better but this kickstarter version is .

 

[jazzV3]

That might explain the when people were asking for feedback.

 

[RofoPoker]

Yeah that's too bad. I was kind of excited about this as something to fill the gap in the market between the ST and high-end refurbished casino shufflers. Hopefully they can iterate on this, because it does seem to have some unrealized potential.

 

[francoisLS]

Hi everybody,

François here, creator of LeShuffler.

First, I apologise for not responding here sooner.

Following the Kickstarter deliveries, backers were directed to the LeShuffler Discord community, and that is where I have concentrated most of my attention: answering owners’ questions, resolving individual issues and continuing the development of the machine.

I failed to keep monitoring this PokerChipForum thread at the same time. That was a genuine blind spot on my side, and I understand why the lack of response here created concern.

I have now contacted @minedelta privately so that I can identify the machine he tested, understand what has already been tried and assist him directly.

More generally, to the best of my knowledge, every technical issue brought to us through Discord or direct support has either been resolved or is actively being addressed. The Discord community has been extremely useful in identifying individual mechanical adjustments, differences between card types and areas where the firmware could be improved.

A significant firmware improvement has already addressed several issues reported with the first machines. The latest firmware is auto-adaptive: it adjusts LeShuffler’s operation to the individual machine and the cards being used, eliminating the need for repeated manual adjustments.

At the same time, we have continued improving the hardware.

The V2 loading system is now in final testing and should be ready within the next two weeks. It incorporates redesigned loading components intended to provide more consistent card intake and considerably quieter loading.

A retrofit incorporating these improvements will also be made available to Kickstarter backers, so that the first owners can benefit from the work completed since the initial production run.

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the original Kickstarter loading system and the new V2 loading system. Both clips were recorded under the same conditions, with fixed microphone gain.

The redesigned V2 hardware improves loading consistency and is noticeably quieter during card loading. The comparison allows the practical difference between the two versions to be heard directly.

With the latest firmware, a full-deck shuffle normally takes 1:15 to 1:20. The longer times mentioned earlier in this thread relate to earlier firmware versions.

A couple of other points raised in the discussion may be worth clarifying:

• Final card discharge. What was described as the cards “dripping” from the machine is the controlled final discharge of the shuffled deck from the internal carousel into the collection tray. It is part of the normal operating sequence, rather than a misfeed.
• Size and placement. LeShuffler has a footprint of 318 × 154 mm, or approximately 12.5 × 6.1 in. It is designed as a freestanding tabletop machine. An owner reported on PCF that it worked well on a side table and at the end of a Barrington with around eight players.

Owners and interested PCF members are welcome to join the Discord community here: https://Discord.LeShuffler.com

Discord remains the most practical place for machine-specific support, firmware updates and detailed technical discussion. However, I will also make sure that I continue monitoring this PokerChipForum thread and respond here in a timely manner.

Thank you for the candid feedback. I will update the discussion once I know more about the particular machine tested by @minedelta, and I will also share the final V2 results when the new hardware is ready.

François
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