KEM vs Copag (1 Viewer)
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tabletalker7
Full House
Kem or Copag .......... Is neither an option here? Fournier is the best
moose
4 of a Kind
Equally bad
I prefer KEMs, most North American casinos use KEM so it gives you that "casino" feeling if you get what I mean. But recently a lot have switched to faded spade, they are pretty good too, but overall I'd take KEM over Copag
LVChipKing
Sitting Out
All MGM Resorts poker rooms tried to switch from KEM to Faded Spade in January. The players/dealers complained and now they are back on KEM.
I learned how to deal using a deck of WSOP Copag cards (I think 2017/2018). I believe they are more durable to repeated abuse, but the KEM cards just slip, slide, and feel better. I think how new the deck is matters. A new Copag deck will feel nicer than an older KEM deck that has been played with.
I learned how to deal using a deck of WSOP Copag cards (I think 2017/2018). I believe they are more durable to repeated abuse, but the KEM cards just slip, slide, and feel better. I think how new the deck is matters. A new Copag deck will feel nicer than an older KEM deck that has been played with.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
COPAG. Much cheaper and less warping. Players like the colors.
Kem cards are an absolute joy to handle.
Copags are fine.
Since a setup of copags is practically half the price of a setup of Kems, and since my cards tend to get mashed by my players, it's far more likely that I'll be buying more copags.
But there's no comparison. Kems are perfect. Copags are fine.
Copags are fine.
Since a setup of copags is practically half the price of a setup of Kems, and since my cards tend to get mashed by my players, it's far more likely that I'll be buying more copags.
But there's no comparison. Kems are perfect. Copags are fine.
LeLe
4 of a Kind
Either will be my top 3 choices, there just too many choices out there nowsadays
I haven’t heard of Fournier. I’ll check them out!
merkong
Flush
Copag at present.
Riddler409
Pair
I bought @desjgn and am very happy with them. There were lots of good reviews of them on this site which led me to get them as my first real deck. Couldnt be happier. I had used Copag before at my neighborhood game, and the Desjgn cards are much better. I always felt like I was herding cats when using the Copags. they just kept drifting anytime to set them down.
I’ll check them out!
pokerplayingpisces
Full House
Oh wow! Do you play on a hard surface or a felt surface?
Cloth
This is what I’ve seen out of every Copag deck I’ve ever played with. I’m shocked others have said Copag has been more durable.
tabletalker7
Full House
KEM is my experience warps in less than an hour. Copag last more than one hour, which makes it more durable
Riddler409
Pair
are these poker size or bridge?
AnteAndy
3 of a Kind
Durable in terms of its form/shape. They never warp, always stay flat. Keys warp way too easily. My Fourniers warp after some time. But my 2020 WSOP free deck I got from Copag during a sale I shuffle a lot and self deal for the heck of it a lot of the time. Still hasn't faded yet but I've had it happen before and is the only real gripe I have with them.
Maybe it's when people press them together hard after shuffling and straiten the deck like I see people do. I just stand them straight after shuffling where they natural fall together and lightly straighten the deck so they don't rub together too hard. They helps the fast fading problem from my experimental handling.
Maybe, but why should I have to "baby sit" playing cards when there are much better options. If they won't stand up to the stress of normal shuffling then why bother. Old fashioned Bee/Bicycle paper cards hold up much better then Copags wrt fading.
AnteAndy
3 of a Kind
It's not babysitting, just simple handling. Never understood why people had to press the cards down so hard on each other when they straighten the deck after shuffling. Always noticed that in home games.
I much rather cards that are durable even if faded as long as they're still legible than having warped, dented, bent, &/or deformed cards regardless of material. I get tilted when I have to try replacing a card if I notice one with a deformity, or replacing the whole deck from just one card. Not aware if the other manufacturers besides Copag when it comes to replacing cards though and if/what they charge.
pokerplayingpisces
Full House
Bridge / regular index
AlbinoDragon
Flush
Huge Fournier fan here! A little tricky to get here in the States, but I love the 2826's for jumbo index bridge and the 2012 WSOP Bicycle branded cards you can find for a steal on eBay periodically for standard index. (at least I understand these are made by Fournier... apologies if I'm incorrect).
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