I would be shocked if there aren't (a lot of) people who can't confirm or deny the veracity of this assertion. I would almost expect it to be common knowledge. We all handle cards but I figure dealers could speak on this first hand. I would be surprised if casino Kems weren't of a higher quality and assuming they were, I'd be pressed into persistence to find some, lol.
Funny thing, I’ve owned brown box casino Kems a couple of times, and I own a bunch of retail KEMs now, but I’ve never had them both at the same time, for comparison.
If it helps any, the ones I got (not pictured above, those were poker size in black box) that were these types in a brown box but had gone through the forbidden place that kills cards, so I've got too small a sample size.
When having used the dealer button method, I've attempted to put as much downward force on top of the box lids as possible. Rubberband is a good trick for sure.
Deck face up in box, cut card on top of that, dealer button on top of that, close lid.
Just to clarify on weather, that room isn’t air conditioned, except on hot summer nights when I had a game. So in New England, yeah it has seen the range, except for extreme cold (because I do heat my home)
Yeah but you can argue those same facts the other way too, right? If people are willing to jump through all these hoops and take all these risks all while paying one of the highest prices on the market for a setup, they must be something pretty special, right?
I think that's the point I'm making; I can't grasp that. What's the point of jumping through a bunch of hoops for something that is consistently broken? If something is consistently broken then to me it clearly isn't actually special. What am I missing?
Isn’t that the definition of a Harley Davidson? (I don’t know, that’s just what I’ve heard.)
Maybe I'm still too much the new kid on the block but the only issue with a major card I've heard as much about is the ink issue with Copags. But I've never had a worry about card durability. Glad your experience has been good but far as I can tell this is quite a consistent, widespread thing. We're all poker players, right? If we are competent we play the odds. I can't see why these cards are worth the gamble with so many consistent issues with warping. Hell, I am paranoid when shuffling the few Kems I have just during 1 use that they aren't going to last long. And I am usually right, lol.
One thing wisdom has taught me is that no sex is good enough to deal with legit craziness.
I’ve got a few Kem setups and they are by far the best for me. Knock on wood, no warping…but I’m not paranoid about it either. If they warp, I’ll get more.
You’re a fan of Faded Spade. I am too. But they are EXTREMELY notorious for cards splitting, and good luck getting their trash customer service to make it right.
Fair point but today was the first I have heard of that, personally. I've been hearing about warping Kems since the day I became a member here.
A bunch of members were so turned off by how trashy FS V1s were that I think many wouldn’t even think to give them a second chance.
I can't stand super thin cards so they don't feel good at all. To each his own, I suppose.
Maybe mention this in your first comment about the rationale for taking chances with super thin cards.
But I've never heard about this problem being widespread among other brands of thin cards. I like then to an extent for variety now and then; so if I am going to buy some, why wouldn't I be hesitant to buy Kem if they are SO notorious for this? I realize they are much easier to get a hold on than some other brands. Still, the idea that they are great... when they aren't warped... it's a big lol for me.
Can you tell me precisly, preferably in points what is that you seek in cards? Size, index, colors, stiffnes etc.
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