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Is chiptalk dead? (1 Viewer)

redwine said:
Oh I remember that... I was pretty new to chipping and I bought a 500 chip set of those pharoahs right after seeing that. They slowly started disintegrating and shedding dust and coloring onto my table and cards after a handful of games. I eventually just threw them out. :(
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Sorry to hear. That really sucks.

That's exactly why it was so offensive - purposefully misleading to make a buck. It was antithetical to the spirit of what all the members were passionate about.
 
TheDuke said:
Sorry to hear. That really sucks.

That's exactly why it was so offensive - purposefully misleading to make a buck. It was antithetical to the spirit of what all the members were passionate about.
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Hey but on the bright side (wallet disagrees) it made me come back here for real chips! So I guess I have that to thank that ad for.
 
I had a set of the Pharaoh's CCs. The only chip I had a problem with was the $1, but it was bad. After maybe a year the flaking started, and then every time I put them on the table it was like somebody had sprinkled kosher salt everywhere.

The rest of the chips were fine and I eventually sold most of them, but I refused to sell the ones because of that.
 
Ah.. a bit late but sad that chiptalk went away. I was active in that forum, enjoyed the folks and learned a lot. I guess this is the Nexgen (heh) of chiptalk.
 
I loved it when it was good. I hate that it’s gone since there are some great sets lost there and it was so resourceful. I wish there were a way to access the old threads
 
links_slayer said:
well, it was actually pretty great for a while
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I missed that part, I guess. I was just there long enough to be annoyed by the fact that I could only have 5 PMs saved at a time without paying a fee, the annoyance becoming enough that I shelled out $200 to remove the irritation, then poof. Gone.
 
liftapint said:
I missed that part, I guess. I was just there long enough to be annoyed by the fact that I could only have 5 PMs saved at a time without paying a fee, the annoyance becoming enough that I shelled out $200 to remove the irritation, then poof. Gone.
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It was great for it’s time. Then Greg got greedy and ASM (now CPC) was sold to Red Ott. Those were the dark days.
 
links_slayer said:
well, it was actually pretty great for a while
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2004 to 2009.

Great time for poker enthusiasts.

Multiple manufacturers making custom chips (TRK, BCC, ASM, and semi-custom from Paulson). Multiple vendors selling retail clay lines. Multiple card vendors selling a wide variety of cards. Supply was vast and cost of entry into the hobby was low. Various group buys always on the go: pricing was 75-90¢ per chip.

It may sound overly nostalgic, but Chiptalk was a community back in those days. There was no constant flipping and arguments about flipping. There were like 1 or 2 folks who engaged in shitty behavior and they got blasted and shunned by the community. To be honest, the circumstances external to Chiptalk were likely huge factors to the community aspect (see above points about supply).

It was great while it lasted. But Chiptalk fell apart largely due to the greed of Greg.
 
No flippers during the chiptalk era? Errr, that was not my experience. Chip room sales were not common. And the rules not even a glimmer of an idea. It didn't take long for the flippers to figure out what to buy out and leverage into tidy profits. Until the Great Recession hit and made it into a buyer's market. Remember Statesman55? He was one of the flippers that got my goat the most.

The good old days weren't as good as some folks remember them -=- DrStrange
 
TheDuke said:
2004 to 2009.

Great time for poker enthusiasts.

Multiple manufacturers making custom chips (TRK, BCC, ASM, and semi-custom from Paulson). Multiple vendors selling retail clay lines. Multiple card vendors selling a wide variety of cards. Supply was vast and cost of entry into the hobby was low. Various group buys always on the go: pricing was 75-90¢ per chip.

It may sound overly nostalgic, but Chiptalk was a community back in those days. There was no constant flipping and arguments about flipping. There were like 1 or 2 folks who engaged in shitty behavior and they got blasted and shunned by the community. To be honest, the circumstances external to Chiptalk were likely huge factors to the community aspect (see above points about supply).

It was great while it lasted. But Chiptalk fell apart largely due to the greed of Greg.
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I joined CT around 2005-2007. At that time fanatsy Paulson were still in shops available for 1,30€. There was a shop who sold BCC like T Mold blanks, hotstamps and Samurai Palace for quite a while. I remember a lot more diversity in customsets with BCC in the market. Beautiful sets like from that asian guy/ korean who made a BCC custom set with each denom one family member on the inlay design. Also ceramics not only customs but Chipco Casino Chips were more common. Faux Clay Nation was huge and china clays were the new thing.

At that time I had no budget yo buy clay chips. I started off with Faux Clays. At some point I bought lasered FCs and engraved the rest to put labels on. I had a china clay set with paper labels. Chipco ceramics from a Chiproom Sale. A small mixed T mold hotstamp set with Samurai Palace high denoms. And last a Doubledown casino Paulson set in very used conditions. I sold everything around 2012 and never returned to that Pokerchip sickness. Thank god.
 
DrStrange said:
No flippers during the chiptalk era? Errr, that was not my experience. Chip room sales were not common. And the rules not even a glimmer of an idea. It didn't take long for the flippers to figure out what to buy out and leverage into tidy profits. Until the Great Recession hit and made it into a buyer's market. Remember Statesman55? He was one of the flippers that got my goat the most.

The good old days weren't as good as some folks remember them -=- DrStrange
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and I think Greg asked him to be a vendor, and then he booted him off the site I thought ?
 
liftapint said:
I missed that part, I guess. I was just there long enough to be annoyed by the fact that I could only have 5 PMs saved at a time without paying a fee, the annoyance becoming enough that I shelled out $200 to remove the irritation, then poof. Gone.
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Yep, I guess so. I remember when you joined. Definitely after the peak prime experience.
 
DrStrange said:
No flippers during the chiptalk era? Errr, that was not my experience. Chip room sales were not common. And the rules not even a glimmer of an idea. It didn't take long for the flippers to figure out what to buy out and leverage into tidy profits. Until the Great Recession hit and made it into a buyer's market. Remember Statesman55? He was one of the flippers that got my goat the most.

The good old days weren't as good as some folks remember them -=- DrStrange
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It was a buyer's market before the recession.

Yeah, flipping became a problem after a few Chiproom sales. At that time, Jim didn't have any kind of structure on sales. So a few dickheads took advantage and would buy the high denoms out and flip. That statsman55 was probably the first real POS. Sadly, he would just fit in here on PCF now.

That being said, that wasn't the case with the first few Chiproom sales and during the heyday of Chiptalk. You could participate in the early Chiproom sales and buy a set without some shitheads becoming unnecessary middlemen standing in the way.

Plus, because the supply of chips outstripped demand back then, the environment wasn't exactly conducive to flipping. Folks had a myriad of options for clay chips at $1 or less. If you wanted to sell off chips, back then you likely had to take a loss. I sold a collection of group buy Pharaohs for 65-67¢ per chip.

The level of flipping on PCF currently versus the best times of Chiptalk is not comparable. At all. And that's not to say it's 100% related to each forum and how they're run. Outside supply side factors are huge contributors. But there's no way one can honestly say flipping was as bad during Chiptalk days as it is now today.
 
What I'm reading...

Chiptalk was better because it had fewer greedy flippers. It got worse because TenPercent got greedy and tried to monetize everything. PCF is good, but greedy NAGB's and deep pockets makes it difficult to complete a set without a trust fund.

Unless I'm missing something, I may know what's wrong with chipping today... :unsure:
 
DrStrange said:
Remember Statesman55? He was one of the flippers that got my goat the most.

The good old days weren't as good as some folks remember them -=- DrStrange
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Statman55, aka Silks -- Mike McSunas, of Tarpon Springs, FL. Used his wife, Shana, as a cover name for shipping, etc. (Yeah, I still keep pics of shipping labels when I buy.)

One of the guys it always pays to keep an eye out for when shopping ...
 
CT was a decent site until it wasn't. Learned a lot at the beginning, made a few friends, few meet ups, vegas meet up, pissed off some folks, owned thousands of chips and sold them all...lost a few thousand along the way. Learned what global ignore is, good times.
 
99%evil said:
CT was a decent site until it wasn't. Learned a lot at the beginning, made a few friends, few meet ups, vegas meet up, pissed off some folks, owned thousands of chips and sold them all...lost a few thousand along the way. Learned what global ignore is, good times.
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The details of that global ignore incident remains to this day one of the funniest things I've ever read on the internet. No offense :D
 

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