naked_eskimo
Two Pair
I want to share an interesting scenario that came up last week in my regular online poker mavens game that I host.
Quick summary:
I had just finished a small conversation with the Villain about his out of whack preflop raises. This has come up before with him. It was late at night and we were just down to three handed. It's a .50/$1 game and he starts raising 8-12x preflop almost every hand. Forcing me to fold things like KQs, QJs, etc. Hands I would normally play, but not for 8x or 12x. After about 20 mins I said that I had signed up to play .50/$1, not $2/$4. If he wanted to keep betting that much that is fine, but I'll just go to bed as it's late anyway, and they can play heads up if they want. He didn't take well to that conversation and I just let it sort of peter out.
Then this happened. He suddenly pushes $173 dollars preflop. He then says "fuck, sorry". I had AKs. At that moment, I thought he was just being sarcastic about the earlier conversation and did it as a joke figuring he would never get called. So I call, flop comes Q high (he has Q4 off) and I shove for my remaining $40. I then look back at the chat and he had typed "I meant to make it $3". Ok fine...but what are you going to do now? Well, he calls my $40, then hand plays out and I river a winner. He then starts demanding that "I make it right" and if I don't then we are not friends anymore and I'm a !@#$sucker.
My opinion he did make a mistake. He could have made that way clearer, but rather than take a stand and say pause the game, stop the hand, etc..he sees that he flops top pair with Q4 and decided to let it run out and see what would happen. When he loses, he then demands his money back. Pretty shitty if you ask me. There was plenty of time after my flop bet for him to plead his misclick case. But he chose not to do that. I even asked him four times in the ensuing argument what he would be saying if his hand had held up and he won. He refused to answer that question.
The next morning I transferred him back the money from the pot. I don't know that many people would have, but $200 is not worth the hassle for me. He did apologize for his verbal abuse saying he had had too much to drink. Not a first for him, either. He can get verbally abusive when drinking and losing.
I'm curious how others might have handled this situation.
Here is the hand history:
Hand #34984-219 - 2021-01-22 00:00:24
Game: NL Hold'em (1 - 2000) - Blinds 0.50/1
Site: Brantford Poker
Table: CRY ME A RIVER
Seat 4: MrsSmith (401.75)
Seat 5: Hero (213.50)
Seat 6: Villain (644.75)
Villain has the dealer button
MrsSmith posts small blind 0.50
Hero: "ty"
Hero posts big blind 1
** Hole Cards ** [3 players]
Villain raises to 173
MrsSmith folds
Villain: "fuck"
Villain: "sorry"
Hero calls 172
** Flop ** [8d 6s Qc]
Villain: "was supposed to be 3"
Hero bets 40.50 (All-in)
Villain: "seriously?"
Villain: "i was beting $3"
Villain: "and i said it right away"
Hero: "i thought you were being sarcastic"
Villain calls 40.50
** Turn ** [5s]
** River ** [Ah]
** Pot Show Down ** [8d 6s Qc 5s Ah]
Hero shows [As Ks] (a Pair of Aces +KQ8)
Villain shows [Qd 4d] (a Pair of Queens +A86)
Hero wins Pot (427.50) with a Pair
Rake (0) Pot (427.50) Players (MrsSmith: 0.50, Hero: 213.50, Villain: 213.50)
** Summary **
Board: [8d 6s Qc 5s Ah], Players: 3, Pots: 1, Total: 427.50, Rake: 0, End: Showdown
Seat 4: MrsSmith (-0.50) [6d 7d] Folded on PreFlop
Seat 5: Hero (+214) [As Ks] Showdown with a Pair of Aces +KQ8
Seat 6: Villain (-213.50) [Qd 4d] Showdown with a Pair of Queens +A86
Quick summary:
I had just finished a small conversation with the Villain about his out of whack preflop raises. This has come up before with him. It was late at night and we were just down to three handed. It's a .50/$1 game and he starts raising 8-12x preflop almost every hand. Forcing me to fold things like KQs, QJs, etc. Hands I would normally play, but not for 8x or 12x. After about 20 mins I said that I had signed up to play .50/$1, not $2/$4. If he wanted to keep betting that much that is fine, but I'll just go to bed as it's late anyway, and they can play heads up if they want. He didn't take well to that conversation and I just let it sort of peter out.
Then this happened. He suddenly pushes $173 dollars preflop. He then says "fuck, sorry". I had AKs. At that moment, I thought he was just being sarcastic about the earlier conversation and did it as a joke figuring he would never get called. So I call, flop comes Q high (he has Q4 off) and I shove for my remaining $40. I then look back at the chat and he had typed "I meant to make it $3". Ok fine...but what are you going to do now? Well, he calls my $40, then hand plays out and I river a winner. He then starts demanding that "I make it right" and if I don't then we are not friends anymore and I'm a !@#$sucker.
My opinion he did make a mistake. He could have made that way clearer, but rather than take a stand and say pause the game, stop the hand, etc..he sees that he flops top pair with Q4 and decided to let it run out and see what would happen. When he loses, he then demands his money back. Pretty shitty if you ask me. There was plenty of time after my flop bet for him to plead his misclick case. But he chose not to do that. I even asked him four times in the ensuing argument what he would be saying if his hand had held up and he won. He refused to answer that question.
The next morning I transferred him back the money from the pot. I don't know that many people would have, but $200 is not worth the hassle for me. He did apologize for his verbal abuse saying he had had too much to drink. Not a first for him, either. He can get verbally abusive when drinking and losing.
I'm curious how others might have handled this situation.
Here is the hand history:
Hand #34984-219 - 2021-01-22 00:00:24
Game: NL Hold'em (1 - 2000) - Blinds 0.50/1
Site: Brantford Poker
Table: CRY ME A RIVER
Seat 4: MrsSmith (401.75)
Seat 5: Hero (213.50)
Seat 6: Villain (644.75)
Villain has the dealer button
MrsSmith posts small blind 0.50
Hero: "ty"
Hero posts big blind 1
** Hole Cards ** [3 players]
Villain raises to 173
MrsSmith folds
Villain: "fuck"
Villain: "sorry"
Hero calls 172
** Flop ** [8d 6s Qc]
Villain: "was supposed to be 3"
Hero bets 40.50 (All-in)
Villain: "seriously?"
Villain: "i was beting $3"
Villain: "and i said it right away"
Hero: "i thought you were being sarcastic"
Villain calls 40.50
** Turn ** [5s]
** River ** [Ah]
** Pot Show Down ** [8d 6s Qc 5s Ah]
Hero shows [As Ks] (a Pair of Aces +KQ8)
Villain shows [Qd 4d] (a Pair of Queens +A86)
Hero wins Pot (427.50) with a Pair
Rake (0) Pot (427.50) Players (MrsSmith: 0.50, Hero: 213.50, Villain: 213.50)
** Summary **
Board: [8d 6s Qc 5s Ah], Players: 3, Pots: 1, Total: 427.50, Rake: 0, End: Showdown
Seat 4: MrsSmith (-0.50) [6d 7d] Folded on PreFlop
Seat 5: Hero (+214) [As Ks] Showdown with a Pair of Aces +KQ8
Seat 6: Villain (-213.50) [Qd 4d] Showdown with a Pair of Queens +A86
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