I’m a fan, he can come hang out with me. For like 15 minutes. He’s the WSOP GOAT, so yeah, I’d like to meet the guy. But I can’t imagine sitting at a table with him for any length of time. I’d have to get headphones.
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Yet, when someone does that, that's more than likely exactly what they're doing. It's not by accident someone does that. Then to throw hands up in bewilderment wondering how anyone could reach that conclusion is so disingenuous.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
He came to Minnesota to my local room to promote "Poker Night in America" several years back. I could have gone over and said hi, but I figured, nah.
A few years later, I did make the point to say hi to Greg Raymer, we were trying to get a mix-game going but the tournament he promoted had taken up all the tables
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RagahRagah
Flush
I really think he just doesn't understand the logic of the words he himself is speaking. Saying that I'm lacking comprehension is projection because he doesn't even understand what his own words mean.
So of course, go figure that after attacking Phil for behaving poorly, he immediately does the same exact thing when he is the one having pressure put on him. As I expected.
I'm not a vengeful person, but I do admit I've been waiting to put him in his place for a very long time.
Frogzilla
4 of a Kind
I forgot about you after you ragequit your stupid student loan arguments, but it’s returning to me.
And welcome back. Maybe not the heel we need, but the heel we deserve.
I completely understand what a comparison is. Let me break it down so that everybody understands where I'm coming from. Let's try to analyze what was said.
"Person A has a good quality. Person A also has a very bad quality, which many observers would tend to remember them more for than their good quality."
"Person B has a good quality. Person B also has a very bad quality, which many observers would tend to remember them more for than their good quality."
vs.
"Person A is as bad as Person B because they each have a very bad quality."
So, which one is the comparison? Is there any connection, logically or otherwise, between the two sets of statements? What more closely resembles what was actually said, versus what someone inferred?
We're not, really. We all agree that Phil Helmuth is an asshole, regardless of his ability to (mis)play poker and win/earn money doing so. All good!
Is there a difference between acting Iike an asshole and being an asshole?
Nah, he’s an asshole. But as far as assholes go, he’s not bad.
RagahRagah
Flush
Sorry to tell you but that's still a comparison.
Also, in my estimation Phil can definitely be classless but I don't throw stones if I might live in a glass house. I don't believe I'm an asshole but I definitely give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't know the guy. BGinGA threw the stones yet absolutely proved today that he's just as much an asshole, if not moreso. Actually, he did that years ago with the situation with me. He just put a stamp on it today. And after years of not saying anything I called him out for it today and suddenly he "doesn't know what my problem is" and claims I'm "obsessed" with him. I just finally gave him a long overdue receipt and he's mad about it? Just take it like a man. He deserved more than he got.
I find it hilarious how common it is for people to call out someone for a bad behavior that they themselves blatantly engage in.embarrassment. So being called an idiot by someone like that means absolutely nothing.
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RagahRagah
Flush
Know why heels are heels? Because they are usually right and people hate them for it.
The arguments were perfectly correct. There was no "rage," I was perfectly calm. But you tell yourself whatever makes you feel better for being out of touch.
Meddler2
Full House
RagahRagah
Flush
The childish PM he sent to me made this look tame. I really triggered the dude. But it's entirely his own fault. Yeah, double standards and no self-awareness; today alone he literally exhibited everything he criticized Phil for, LOL. In the grand scheme of things he's just another common internet troll who never grew up after high school (who was bordering on being a thief after the experience I had with him). Dime a dozen.
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Meddler2
Full House
What was once a mildly entertaining thread has turned into just another dumb thread. Nice.
RagahRagah
Flush
I feel like it was pretty dumb from the start with a lot of people ignoring a lot of suspicious details about the whole situation.
I'll take some responsibility for derailing the thread, honestly. But that shot I took at BGinGA was years overdue and I regret nothing, lol.
bergs
Royal Flush
People comparing Adolf Hitler to a poker pro personality is why I had to come from the Great Banning — to participate in this rousing discourse.
- Hitler invaded Northern Europe
- Hellmuth called a guy from Northern Europe an idiot
- Hitler thought he’d win except for the incompetence of his generals and bad weather
- Hellmuth thought he’d win except for the incompetence of dealers and bad luck
- Hitler never could conquer England
- Hellmuth never could beat Tony G
- Hitler shot himself in the mouth
- Hellmuth shoots off his mouth constantly
Colossally stupid comparison.
But, Tony G is Lithuani......oh, never mind.
RagahRagah
Flush
In all seriousness, I see Tony G as a way bigger asshole than Phil.
bergs
Royal Flush
10000%. Tony G is a disengious guy. At least with Hellmuth you know you’re just getting a loudmouth.
RagahRagah
Flush
I don't think there's anyone who is a bigger sore loser than Phil but you can see that he legitimately has passion, even if he acts childish.
Tony, on the other hand... antagonist troll.
So BGinGA, in this case, is more Tony than Phil.
No such comparison was made! That's what I've been trying to point out!
RagahRagah
Flush
The only interaction you had any right to have with me should have been an apology; your entire attitude has been completely out of line. I was approaching the reality of having to research potential legal action against you. You earned every bit of this and more. Buuuuut maybe you aren't seeing this because you put me back on ignore for... the 2nd time? 3rd? Ah, who knows, your word isn't worth anything. Maybe you just had me on ignore while you were holding onto my property. That would be an even worse look for you.
If you just apologized all would be totally cool, I'm forgiving. But based on what I've seen today your ego likely won't allow that.
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bergs
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He sounds like Matt B - annoyingly British.
bergs
Royal Flush
This entire site is one big dumb thread. It’s one big long session. Life is a single long session.
Meddler2
Full House
It's turned into Nextdoor...but with an occasional TCR sale
Frogzilla
4 of a Kind
up until now I was 100% certain Tony G was Australian
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