COVID and live poker, again (6 Viewers)

Taghkanic

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I’m now dealing with COVID for the third time.

For all three of my cases (one each in 2022, 2023, and 2024) I have been able to trace with a high degree of certainty to playing in a live poker game with someone who was sick, but either did not know it or did not bother to warn the other players.

I typically play live poker 1.5 times per week on average, or roughly 75 times per year. So I am getting COVID from these games roughly 1.333% of the time.

Twice came from private games, once at a casino.

My cases have not been particularly severe. The first time was the worst of them. My current case is like a bad flu. But as with any other contagious illness, I do not want to infect others so I am quarantining and testing to make sure that I’m in the clear before resuming normal activity. This is a PITA to put it mildly, both for day-to-day chores, and my work.

Unfortunately, it also appears that I spread it to my girlfriend’s elderly parents, with whom we had a long lunch the day before I became symptomatic. I am obviously concerned that an illness which is manageable for me may not be so easy for them. One of them is already quite infirm.

Now, I am not interested in a political debate about COVID. We know how that will go.

But I do feel I need to seriously consider how to balance or manage my love of live poker with the seemingly inevitable illness it incurs for me once a year. (FWIW, I am almost never ill from anything else, and have never spent a night in a medical facility even when I was born in a remote African mission hospital!)

I am curious, again without engaging in a debate about the origins or other politics of COVID, what others are doing now that the pandemic has subsided publicly but the infection remains out there (and currently spreading rapidly again in some areas). I thought I was in the clear, and stopped worrying about it, but here I am missing time again.

Have you given up live poker? Limited yourself to only certain games which seem lower-risk? Or is COVID just an occupational hazard we have to accept now?

Also curious how people react nowadays if you mask up in a game? I see Ike Haxton does that, but gets a lot of grief about it. It would make me uncomfortable, and masks don’t guarantee anything, but I’m contemplating trying again to find a high-quality comfortable option.
 
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(Again, looking here for practical and constructive discussion. If you want to tell me COVID is imaginary or the invention of Lizard People or something, let’s take that to the Politics forum.)
 
Best advice is be considerate of others.
I don’t go play if I’m sick, cuz I don’t want to get others sick. Not just in poker…if I have no choice (work) I just wear a mask or let other know I’m sick…
Hope ur in-laws are ok!
 
My jobs so public that no real reason to adapt anything for my game. But we have hand sanitizer always available, as dealer I wash my hands each 40 min break, and I cycle sets multiple weeks between games.

We also are pretty firm. If ya feel like you even have a cold, stay home.
 
I tell my folks if they do not feel good to stay home. Have had one game where a guy definitely had it and did not know it and thankfully only gave it to two others. Was shocked I did not get it because I was sitting near him.

I think it is just another everyday potential hazard nowadays but would be pissed if someone knew they had it (or any other contagious illness) and still showed up.
 
I worry less about hand transfer than sitting in a room (sometimes a smallish room) with people for 6-8 hours at a time, everyone breathing the same stale air. My recent case I am 95% certain came from a setting like that.

(NOTE: I have an expensive air purifier that I use in my own game, which is in a large barn space, with air also being circulated in and out constantly. No guarantee, but better than a totally stagnant space.)
 
I had a poker night scheduled, and 6 days before I tested positive. I have some older folks that play, and put it out that I was positive. The day before, I tested again, and it barely showed positive. I felt 100% fine. In the best interest of everyone, I cancelled my monthly game.

I was able to reschedule for the next weekend, thankfully and still got almost 30 players.

I’d rather be safe, than potentially spread something that could impact someone much more than it hit me.

Unfortunately, unless you have people that all see the same way, you’ll get the folks that think it’s no big deal, and there isn’t much you can do. Chances are you won’t know how everyone feels that night
 
On some level I guess it’s just a cost of doing business, as it were. Just sucks when I have to pay the periodic “toll” on the poker highway.
 
I had a poker night scheduled, and 6 days before I tested positive. I have some older folks that play, and put it out that I was positive. The day before, I tested again, and it barely showed positive. I felt 100% fine. In the best interest of everyone, I cancelled my monthly game.

I was able to reschedule for the next weekend, thankfully and still got almost 30 players.

I’d rather be safe, than potentially spread something that could impact someone much more than it hit me.

Unfortunately, unless you have people that all see the same way, you’ll get the folks that think it’s no big deal, and there isn’t much you can do. Chances are you won’t know how everyone feels that night
And not even COVID, but any communicable condition that could make others ill. (Flu, measles, fresh poison ivy, skunk spray, bronchitis,etc….)
 
I’d still play in live games, but I’d change tables if anyone appeared sick at my table. Not foolproof, but it’ll decrease the chances.
 
I think of COVID like flu these days, and treat it the same way:

- Stay home if you're sick, and tell your players the same (or don't play with sick players when in other's games or the casino).
- Get an annual booster (flu and COVID).
- Wear a mask if you're so inclined, tell anyone who gives you grief to FRO.
- Practice good hygiene: wash your hands often, cover when you cough, etc.
 
Hate to hear that you aren't feeling well, and hope your family deal with it easily. I think it's just something that we all have to live with now. Treat it like any other illness. You not feeling right, then stay your A$$ at home. If you have to cancel/reschedule because you are concerned you might get someone sick, DO IT. Anyone that has anything to say about it can get kicked right in the nuts.
 
You say you don't want to engage in a debate then ask questions hoping for answers from one side of the population.

I suggest this thread moves to the political topic
 
You say you don't want to engage in a debate then ask questions hoping for answers from one side of the population.

I suggest this thread moves to the political topic
Mad Max Reaction GIF
 
ok well then I'll answer here. I never stated a side, just made an observation.

I love playing against people in masks. They puff out and in when they catch a hand.

Let me know of any masks you can wear that are rated against viruses.

I agree, stay home when you are sick. With the amount of crap on the chips in the room any time of day, we have a choice to be there or not.
 
Man, not long ago I went to play in a live tournament at a casino in NH for the first time in a couple of years. I haven’t been avoiding it, it just hasn’t happened in a long time, for whatever reason. Halfway through the night, a guy got moved to the seat next to me. He had a HORRIBLE and strange sounding cough. I tried to breathe in the other direction. He got knocked out within 15 minutes, but the damage was done. Four days later I felt the symptoms. And like you, I had been with my elderly parents in the days in between. Fortunately they didn’t catch it. And shit, it was miserable - I’d forgotten what a stupid recovery that thing has.

I honestly don’t know how it will affect my decisions in the future. I know I won’t go wearing a mask - those things are annoying as hell. But what the hell was that asshole doing, playing with a cough like that?
 
On some level I guess it’s just a cost of doing business, as it were. Just sucks when I have to pay the periodic “toll” on the poker highway.
If it's not poker then it would be something else. We've traced it back to concert venue shows we attended on two occasions. Anything social will be a risk. I would make sure to have plenty of sanitizer and what not available and to make sure everyone knows that if they aren't well to please skip the game and that'll you'll be happy to have them back when they are well, asymptomatic, and/or test negative.
 
ok well then I'll answer here. I never stated a side, just made an observation.

I love playing against people in masks. They puff out and in when they catch a hand.

Let me know of any masks you can wear that are rated against viruses.

I agree, stay home when you are sick. With the amount of crap on the chips in the room any time of day, we have a choice to be there or not

Mad Max Reaction GIF
 
It means the thing he’s point at is designed to lure in an unsuspected victim because the thing he’s pointing at is potentially interesting to the intended aforementioned victim.
Weird that people think answering questions with simple observations is bait. Ah well.
 
Weird that people think answering questions with simple observations is bait. Ah well.
But that’s the thing. Maybe the bait is the first question that you asked. Maybe you’re the bait for the trap you set yourself to trap someone else with their own bait.

So meta, so hood, this level, this re-level.
 

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