So this situation happened last night in our home game ... curious how people would handle it.
The game is 1-2-5 Pot Limit Omaha variations, and we happened to be playing BigO. All of the players in the game have a good understanding of the basic rules, some better than others, and all have played at the local casino poker room. Given the size of the game and the players’ experience, we generally try to enforce casino rules. But we self-deal, so sometimes mistakes are made where people act out of turn, for example, and there is some flexibility in that regard.
Player A raises in EP to 25. Player A and I host the game and share floor duties, although I will defer to him on most rule nuances. I call. Player B, an experienced player, straddled for 5 with one red chip UTG. He throws a single black chip out and doesn’t take his red chip back. 105 not coincidentally happens to be near a pot sized bet. UTG and UTG+1 (both limpets) immediately fold. Player A, the initial raiser, waits for the pot to be made, change to be given, but when everyone is waiting for him to act, he asks Player B if that was a raise, to which Player B replies yes. We then get into a debate about the one chip rule. Since we are both in the hand, I suggest someone not in the hand should make a ruling, but that doesn’t really happen. Player B basically says “do whatever you want, but I obviously meant to raise.” Given that the normal floor people were in the hand and conflicted, we allowed the raise to stand.
So two questions ...
(1) how do you address the one chip rule in a relatively high stakes game with experienced players; and
(2) how to you handle rulings when the people normally making rulings are in the hand and conflicted?
The game is 1-2-5 Pot Limit Omaha variations, and we happened to be playing BigO. All of the players in the game have a good understanding of the basic rules, some better than others, and all have played at the local casino poker room. Given the size of the game and the players’ experience, we generally try to enforce casino rules. But we self-deal, so sometimes mistakes are made where people act out of turn, for example, and there is some flexibility in that regard.
Player A raises in EP to 25. Player A and I host the game and share floor duties, although I will defer to him on most rule nuances. I call. Player B, an experienced player, straddled for 5 with one red chip UTG. He throws a single black chip out and doesn’t take his red chip back. 105 not coincidentally happens to be near a pot sized bet. UTG and UTG+1 (both limpets) immediately fold. Player A, the initial raiser, waits for the pot to be made, change to be given, but when everyone is waiting for him to act, he asks Player B if that was a raise, to which Player B replies yes. We then get into a debate about the one chip rule. Since we are both in the hand, I suggest someone not in the hand should make a ruling, but that doesn’t really happen. Player B basically says “do whatever you want, but I obviously meant to raise.” Given that the normal floor people were in the hand and conflicted, we allowed the raise to stand.
So two questions ...
(1) how do you address the one chip rule in a relatively high stakes game with experienced players; and
(2) how to you handle rulings when the people normally making rulings are in the hand and conflicted?