ekricket
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I get that stealing is stealing. You evidently don’t.
This guy sent them a Paulson chip and said duplicate it. What’s the difference?
Fake Paulson WSOP ceramics (1 Viewer)
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Look, I just think that plastic boxes are plastic boxes. If it had any real proprietary technology or design then it would be stealing. It doesn't. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Would you like me to ask Matsui themselves whether or not it's stealing? I can send Roxana an email.
ekricket
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Sure, actual knowledge usually clears things up. Ask Matsui for a copy of their design specs on that too. It’s not proprietary so I’m sure they’d be happy to provide you with information.
Bluegrass Poker
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I believe they had permission to make the original Dunes Commemorative chips from the rights holders.
I disagree with the fake WSOP ceramics. Those are live chips that are trademarked. Big no-no.
For the Pharaohs, they were approved and designed in conjunction with the original owner of the design. For the Dunes, I believe the trademark expired, and it says commemorative on the label, but that might not be it.
ekricket
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live chips? You going to cash these in somewhere?
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GenghisKhan
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Holy shit. What did I start here? Lol.
Well, I did ask your thoughts haha.
To be fair I never paid attention to much of the China chip threads, or the different WSOP iterations. So I feel I've brought up old debates that already happened.
I have recently started paying attention to the SunFly chips though. Lots of great sets coming out on those recently.
As you were. Debate away.
Well, I did ask your thoughts haha.
To be fair I never paid attention to much of the China chip threads, or the different WSOP iterations. So I feel I've brought up old debates that already happened.
I have recently started paying attention to the SunFly chips though. Lots of great sets coming out on those recently.
As you were. Debate away.
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Any suggestions about Sunfly chips?
Never one to avoid controversial issues, so I'll add an opinion.
Chip racks are designed and produced, and thus I suspect (but do not know for certainty) that they are somehow 'protected'. @pltrgyst ?
One can certainly produce new chip racks that are similar to other existing racks.... merely look at all of the various types out there already. Different overall-lengths, widths, wall thicknesses, barrel widths, arc diameters, stacking/stability aids, etc. I doubt that one can exactly clone an existing chip rack without violating *something*, but making it 'different' in some way certainly seems to be acceptable.
Where do the Apache racks fall? No clue, but they are clearly not identical to the Matsui racks.
Chip racks are designed and produced, and thus I suspect (but do not know for certainty) that they are somehow 'protected'. @pltrgyst ?
One can certainly produce new chip racks that are similar to other existing racks.... merely look at all of the various types out there already. Different overall-lengths, widths, wall thicknesses, barrel widths, arc diameters, stacking/stability aids, etc. I doubt that one can exactly clone an existing chip rack without violating *something*, but making it 'different' in some way certainly seems to be acceptable.
Where do the Apache racks fall? No clue, but they are clearly not identical to the Matsui racks.
Although a faux house mold with 3d shadow effect for depth can *sometimes* be executed quite well.
Fake hat and canes are just dumb, though.
All copyright issues aside... those things are UGGG-LAYY.
Doublebassa
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There are super common especially in the UK. One of the only ceramic sets you can buy without importing it.
Just got this email:
Hi Greg,
Good evening!
It’s not an item that’s controlled by any means, we’re more concerned with our chips/plaques being replicated.
Thank you,
Roxana
Johnblue
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I can’t believe the gall of all the people in the world who STOLE the design of the cardboard box. I mean, C’mon!
it’s a fricking chip rack for gods sake, and these matsui ones aren’t even used in casinos, I think they are used for production and initial shipping and PCF collectors seem to like them because they look good and keep the dust off of unused chippies.
in regards to these flunky WSOP ceramics... meh, I don’t think anyone really cares about these chips, anyone who does care ... doesn’t want the chips. Whoever made them is pretty much failing, in design and in business.
i would venture to say at this point, somebody has already taken a loss with these chips, they probably had a bunch of meetings, borrowed a bunch of money, telling people how BOoMing the poker chip home market was, and then printed a ton of crappy ceramics and have been storing them in a garage that’s probably got an eviction notice on it by now.
it’s a fricking chip rack for gods sake, and these matsui ones aren’t even used in casinos, I think they are used for production and initial shipping and PCF collectors seem to like them because they look good and keep the dust off of unused chippies.
in regards to these flunky WSOP ceramics... meh, I don’t think anyone really cares about these chips, anyone who does care ... doesn’t want the chips. Whoever made them is pretty much failing, in design and in business.
i would venture to say at this point, somebody has already taken a loss with these chips, they probably had a bunch of meetings, borrowed a bunch of money, telling people how BOoMing the poker chip home market was, and then printed a ton of crappy ceramics and have been storing them in a garage that’s probably got an eviction notice on it by now.
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ekricket
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Cardboard box patents for you to peruse. Perhaps you can make some money off of these.
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4403416A1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2522597A/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3361325A/en
Variants of the cardboard box are some of the most patented ideas
I don't think that's the case... but if it is, who sent them PCF promo chips? LOL
I think they just copy designs on their own.
Kasper Storrs
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These were also for sale I think by a Uk ‘vendor’. I had a sample set of 2-3 years years ago.
WedgeRock
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I don't think that's the case... but if it is, who sent them PCF promo chips? LOL
I think they just copy designs on their own.
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I don't think that's the case... but if it is, who sent them PCF promo chips? LOL
I think they just copy designs on their own.
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First time I've seen the PCM chips. Bet they said we need a 5 letter word to replace Forum with and somebody just picked Mandy. Could have easily been Poker Chip Bread.
Chinese manufacturers will knock off anything and then sell it right back to the same people they stole it from.
CdnBeerLover
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It's part of that company's name.First time I've seen the PCM chips. Bet they said we need a 5 letter word to replace Forum with and somebody just picked Mandy. Could have easily been Poker Chip Bread.
Poker Zombie
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I did pull up Mandy Poker Chips. Looks like the PCF chips aren't the only thing they chose to rip-off.
https://www.mandypokerchips.com/#home
About 55c per chip, far less than the 85c that @GenghisKhan spotted them at.
I guess "suckers... every minute" still applies.
https://www.mandypokerchips.com/#home
About 55c per chip, far less than the 85c that @GenghisKhan spotted them at.
I guess "suckers... every minute" still applies.
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NO! Matsui racks do not look good! They look different. They look like a spaceship. They look like a mad scientist version of a rack. They look weird. All of those things, but they do not look good!
I want to smash them all.
Guess you should be flattered.I don't think that's the case... but if it is, who sent them PCF promo chips? LOL
I think they just copy designs on their own.
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Lets sue China!
Gotta LOL at a Chinese company ripping off the design of another Chinese company's ripped off design, with ceramic versions of cheap plastic chips.
Who's on first?
BonScot
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Those are on sale on eBay over here. If anyone wants a set let me know
Wonder why they never copied the scrub donkey chips???
Wonder why they never copied the scrub donkey chips???
Jambine
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Going from memory here, but I thought the 25,000 chip was green
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