Maybe Pippa's "ultimatum" and refund request will wake him up?
Yes, actually I am worried about losing my money. I have an approximately $6k order in and have no way to know if the new owner burned all of his capital in the move and has no way to actually reopen the doors or hire staff. Maybe permits weren’t received because xyz factors and now he’s in bankruptcy trying to shed these assets. Maybe everything is ok. But we have no way to know because there is no transparency beyond the generic “should be up and running in about 30 days.” Things happen to businesses all the time, so yes I am 100% worried…Not exactly correct. In the 1/1/26 email, prior to giving that best guess, he also said "I hate giving out updates and guesstimates while too much of it is out of my control."
Then there was another update on the CPC home page on 1/15/26. This one does not specifically state the "around 30 days" which by that time would only be 15 days. So obviously he was overly optimistic on 1/1.
I understand being frustrated waiting. I understand being frustrated over the lack of communication. Yes, he should take 15 minutes and post a new update on the home page, or here on PCF. But does anyone really think they're going to lose their money here? He's going to get this started up at some point, and you'll eventually get your chips. No way he made this investment in buying the company and moving it across the country just to rip-off a few of you guys off for a couple (many?) thousand bucks each.
I’ll update everyone when I’ll receive an answer backYes, actually I am worried about losing my money. I have an approximately $6k order in and have no way to know if the new owner burned all of his capital in the move and has no way to actually reopen the doors or hire staff. Maybe permits weren’t received because xyz factors and now he’s in bankruptcy trying to shed these assets. Maybe everything is ok. But we have no way to know because there is no transparency beyond the generic “should be up and running in about 30 days.” Things happen to businesses all the time, so yes I am 100% worried…
As I said, a little communication with the forum that will drive his business goes a long way. I don’t care how busy things got as I’m sure most of us would not have placed the order in the first place knowing that they would break their promise of producing all pre cutoff orders at old factory.
@Pippa let us know if you hear anything back on your refund request.
Literally, the only people that would purchase CPC would HAVE to be off forum people, because it would have to be someone that didn't realize the people they'd be dealing with as their primary addressable market.Lastly, while I want to keep everyone updated on things please understand that when I send out any kind of update I’ll get 50 responses back that I have to reply to.
While this is fair and the people here are generally a little insane. It take 43s to just log in, toss in a grenade, and log back out. At least people would be somewhat appeased whatever the answer is.Literally, the only people that would purchase CPC would HAVE to be off forum people, because it would have to be someone that didn't realize the people they'd be dealing with as their primary addressable market.
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As a customs sample collector, I didn’t love finding out about the 4 full sets in existence and that samples were pulled from everything created.While this is fair and the people here are generally a little insane. It take 43s to just log in, toss in a grenade, and log back out. At least people would be somewhat appeased whatever the answer is.
He always smells....When did you put your oder in?
Just set a reminder once a week on Monday with a 1-2 sentence update for us. I swear it’ll make everyone here more content. You can do it while you’re taking a shit. I swear you’ll feel better too (insofar as calming us down, not the dump part).I get the frustration and anger but it doesn't help me get anything going any faster.
Appreciate the update Mike. The explanation helps and I think most of us just wanted to know what was actually going on. When updates go quiet, people naturally start filling the gaps with speculation.Hey folks, I know you're all getting restless and deservedly pissed off. I am too. We have everything installed and ready to go here except the boiler/chiller. We have the permit from the city but the landlord has been, well, extremely difficult with okaying parts of the plumbing. In the meantime we're doing whatever we can possibly do without the presses and mill to work on your orders. Unfortunately, there's only a tiny bit we can do and that is the inlays. I've been giving out the same estimate for about 4 months and it's as frustrating for me as it is for you. Things are NOT in my control yet. Once we get the landlord onboard then we can finish up the plumbing and then things ARE in my control.
If you've still got an outstanding order it has priority over everything else. i haven't started taking any new orders until we're operational and we'll never begin to work on new orders until the current ones are finished.
I've got more invested in this company than all of you combined. If any of you are local and want to drop by and see for yourself where we are then let me know.
I get the frustration and anger but it doesn't help me get anything going any faster.
December 13, 2024When did you put your order in?
I'm not sure if the reaction is due to the date or the smell?
Pm and Email sent to you for my reimbursementHey folks, I know you're all getting restless and deservedly pissed off. I am too. We have everything installed and ready to go here except the boiler/chiller. We have the permit from the city but the landlord has been, well, extremely difficult with okaying parts of the plumbing. In the meantime we're doing whatever we can possibly do without the presses and mill to work on your orders. Unfortunately, there's only a tiny bit we can do and that is the inlays. I've been giving out the same estimate for about 4 months and it's as frustrating for me as it is for you. Things are NOT in my control yet. Once we get the landlord onboard then we can finish up the plumbing and then things ARE in my control.
If you've still got an outstanding order it has priority over everything else. i haven't started taking any new orders until we're operational and we'll never begin to work on new orders until the current ones are finished.
I've got more invested in this company than all of you combined. If any of you are local and want to drop by and see for yourself where we are then let me know.
I get the frustration and anger but it doesn't help me get anything going any faster.
ASM Vegas went downhill when the owner responded to completely reasonable complaints that the chips were being sent out warped in an irritated tone, saying something like: “They’re round and they have writing on them—what more do you want, you idiots!”Other chip companies have folded when they attempted to move equipment. Isn’t that how CPC saved the previous business?
that’s really on the previous owners who selected Mike
Stop being so defensive lol and acknowledge your lack of self awareness lolHey folks, I know you're all getting restless and deservedly pissed off. I am too. We have everything installed and ready to go here except the boiler/chiller. We have the permit from the city but the landlord has been, well, extremely difficult with okaying parts of the plumbing. In the meantime we're doing whatever we can possibly do without the presses and mill to work on your orders. Unfortunately, there's only a tiny bit we can do and that is the inlays. I've been giving out the same estimate for about 4 months and it's as frustrating for me as it is for you. Things are NOT in my control yet. Once we get the landlord onboard then we can finish up the plumbing and then things ARE in my control.
If you've still got an outstanding order it has priority over everything else. i haven't started taking any new orders until we're operational and we'll never begin to work on new orders until the current ones are finished.
I've got more invested in this company than all of you combined. If any of you are local and want to drop by and see for yourself where we are then let me know.
I get the frustration and anger but it doesn't help me get anything going any faster.
Apparently it was. He has so much more invested than you/us combined (wtf kind of comment is that) and it’s out of his control other than he picked his landlord and where he decided to move his equipment to lolwas that so hard?