Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (12 Viewers)

BigJackJones said:
Is this based on industry knowledge?

For the most part, I prefer my CC set from Apache, but the Greek Hybrid JusTina came up with is outstanding.

That said, the folks on this site often make no distinction between the plastic sluggos and something like the Majestics that Apache offers. Then when it comes to Royals, accepted wisdom is disregarded because the Royals are 43mm or they look cooler or… whatever.

The truth is, the products I mentioned from Apache feel different, and sound different that some of the popular sluggos like Poker Knights.

Not arguing their future or comparing them to Paulsons, but I would hate to see them go away.

I would, however, like some edge spot flexibility in the CC arena.
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Nope. There used to be a few options out there, from Palm Imports, ChipRoom (Dunes I believe), Apache, and some others. Now, I think Apache is the only place to get them. Most of the other plastic slugged chips you can get anywhere.

I'm just saying that I bought 2 cards molds tournament sets over 2 years ago (2000+ chips each). I've used one of them once, the other twice. They're customized to my game (my logo), so I won't sell them, but I'm in no hurry to use them again either. While the new molds hold some promise, I don't think I'm ready to try again a 3rd time. I'd rather just save my pennies and buy another CPC set.
 
NotRealNameNoSir said:
Okay, you've found the right thread; now just stay here and we're golden.
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So, you’re sayin’

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upNdown said:
But to be fair, I really only own one set of chips.
Someday I’ll finally order that custom set. If CPC is still around.
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To be clear, I’ve owned over 20 sets of chips. But usually only one or two at a time. Which is a huge reason why I’ve never taken the CPC plunge - I’ve always felt comfortable buying sets because I knew I could sell them without losing money. Can’t do that with customs. But one of these days . . .
 
upNdown said:
To be clear, I’ve owned over 20 sets of chips. But usually only one or two at a time. Which is a huge reason why I’ve never taken the CPC plunge - I’ve always felt comfortable buying sets because I knew I could sell them without losing money. Can’t do that with customs. But one of these days . . .
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It seems like with the high price of chips (which may have peaked), there is a much higher risk when buying and selling chips sets on the regular. With the base price of chips being much higher a 10% loss can be much more significant than what was previously a small rental fee. Being in Canada with more shipping issues with the boarder I was always jealous of how quickly and cheaply chips could move around in the US.
 
controversial poker opinion: it feels either icky or boring to “lock up a win”. In a casino or any non friendly scenario, I would much, much, much rather hit and run. Not sure why that’s so bad regarding unspoken rules, why do I have to sit there and waste both yours and my time?

In a home game, if you’re someone that “locks up a win”, I may enjoy you and your company outside of poker, but we likely have far different values and reasons we’re playing at that home game.
 
TheRealTeddyKGB said:
Rolling 4-pip index Poker Sized cards tonight on a race tracked table using NAGB chips. Oh I almost forgot a "super loud" shuffletech too!

That had to just TILT at least 3/4 of PCF right?
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If they're standard index pips I think you've got something in here to offend just about everyone here
 
BarrieJ3 said:
controversial poker opinion: it feels either icky or boring to “lock up a win”. In a casino or any non friendly scenario, I would much, much, much rather hit and run. Not sure why that’s so bad regarding unspoken rules, why do I have to sit there and waste both yours and my time?

In a home game, if you’re someone that “locks up a win”, I may enjoy you and your company outside of poker, but we likely have far different values and reasons we’re playing at that home game.
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Those of you that do this are probably costing yourself money. No one ever asks the guy that won $1500 at 1-3 why he didn't quit when he was plus $200. Whether your are up or down you should always play as long as you can so long as you have an advantage over the opposition.

If you are "locking up wins" you are on some level telling yourself you don't believe the win can continue, and that you don't believe you have the best of it.

EDIT TO ADD:

I don't think the crux of the opinion is at all controversial that hit-and-run in a casino where games have waiting lists is even remotely as bad as it would be in a home game where space in limited and the host puts effort into arranging the game and players have made commitments to free their evening.
 
JustinInMN said:
Those of you that do this are probably costing yourself money. No one ever asks the guy that won $1500 at 1-3 why he didn't quit when he was plus $200. Whether your are up or down you should always play as long as you can so long as you have an advantage over the opposition.

If you are "locking up wins" you are on some level telling yourself you don't believe the win can continue, and that you don't believe you have the best of it.

EDIT TO ADD:

I don't think the crux of the opinion is at all controversial that hit-and-run in a casino where games have waiting lists is even remotely as bad as it would be in a home game where space in limited and the host puts effort into arranging the game and players have made commitments to free their evening.
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100%. Casinos, whatever, they'd do the same. Home game, ugh, had to explain to a friend's girlfriend why it was bad. She was teaching two brand new players to separate their winnings from their original buyin so they wouldn't lose too much... they had bought in for a whopping $10 combined and were now up to a collective $12.55.
 
JustinInMN said:
Those of you that do this are probably costing yourself money. No one ever asks the guy that won $1500 at 1-3 why he didn't quit when he was plus $200. Whether your are up or down you should always play as long as you can so long as you have an advantage over the opposition.

If you are "locking up wins" you are on some level telling yourself you don't believe the win can continue, and that you don't believe you have the best of it.

EDIT TO ADD:

I don't think the crux of the opinion is at all controversial that hit-and-run in a casino where games have waiting lists is even remotely as bad as it would be in a home game where space in limited and the host puts effort into arranging the game and players have made commitments to free their evening.
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The first part makes sense in a casino/professional setting, and maybe home games. From what I've seen or at least what I take part in over the last however long, home games tend to be looser, swingier, etc. A lot more volatility and nonsensical play, making the idea of "locking it up" more sensical - i.e. get up enough and shut it down.

What made me write this was I did it for the first time. At a casino, playing normal nonsensical me, saw literally about 148 flops out of 150 PLO hands, quadrupled my money over the course of the night (mostly on winning a 50/50 all in), and eventually shut it down. We had one night in Vegas and fellow PCFer was stuck, so stuck it out for another hour or so.

Card dead, I played more tight/ABC, and an hour later booked the win. Afterwards we chatted and I couldn't believe how droll and boring it was to shift style and clam it up. Def not something I'll plan on future trips, I'm fine with a hit and run or just leaving whenever I'm done. At the same time, I have no issue with people doing it at a home game, lol they may play regularly and be there to win money.

It was just an interesting realization for me as I continue my very slow poker journey.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
At the same time, I have no issue with people doing it at a home game, lol they may play regularly and be there to win money.

It was just an interesting realization for me as I continue my very slow poker journey.
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Unless you've been a host trying to hold together a 6-handed game, you may not understand why the hit and run is damaging in home games. It's a cousin of the last minute cancellation.

YMMV depending on the culture of your home games and how many players attend regularly, but even a seemingly strong 9-handed game is two cancellations and a hit and run from being in jeopardy. People have cleared evening and nothing worse than a game breaking up after 2 hours because of cancellations and quitting.
 
JustinInMN said:
Unless you've been a host trying to hold together a 6-handed game, you may not understand why the hit and run is damaging in home games. It's a cousin of the last minute cancellation.

YMMV depending on the culture of your home games and how many players attend regularly, but even a seemingly strong 9-handed game is two cancellations and a hit and run from being in jeopardy. People have cleared evening and nothing worse than a game breaking up after 2 hours because of cancellations and quitting. again.
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Oh for sure. Noone does that in any games I’ve played. I’d prefer no hit and run and no wildly changing play style to “lock up a win”, but the first is unacceptable and second just is what it is.

Edit to say I posted this as someone who doesn’t play a ton but also only have 2ish losing sessions for the year, so I’m not complaining about losing money to someone. Just realized how awkward I would feel and shared. Apparently it might not be an unpopular opinion.
 
Recency bias. Someone not liking hot stamps probably isn't alone. Hot Stamps weren't remotely popular 5-6 years ago.

I spent years trying to decide on the perfect hotstamp denoms/chips for a mixed set, and never made a decision. You didn't see them in the classifieds, you didn't see wanted ads, you didn't see vendors stamping much outside of AK and his projects, and they simply weren't discussed often. I passed on a ton of stuff that I didn't think was right.

I don't actually know what changed, but I'd probably say Jeep had something to do with it. Again I'm sure people did it before John, but holy hell he came out and just knocked grand slam after grand slam of mixed HS sets together. Suddenly, their beauty wasn't hidden and became much more widely sought after.

And now, it's probably an unpopular opinion to not dig hot stamps.
 
I've tried twice before to like hot stamps. Went as far as building racks or sets but ended up selling them all.

I'm on my third try now with the SL chip set. Let's see if they are still around and in use next year.

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Coyote said:
Hot stamps are heavier than inlayed chips!
"Clay" (or whatever the hell it is) is heavier than vinyl inlays!

I think I made the best possible sounding CPC chips (Horseshoe Mold, Hot-stamped)

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I know this isn’t the point of this thread, but those are awesome. I’ve kind of been trying to psyche myself up to piece together a small Aurora Star hot stamp tournament set next year, but these have convinced me that I can be 1000% happy with something similar from CPC, too.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
The first part makes sense in a casino/professional setting, and maybe home games. From what I've seen or at least what I take part in over the last however long, home games tend to be looser, swingier, etc. A lot more volatility and nonsensical play, making the idea of "locking it up" more sensical - i.e. get up enough and shut it down.

What made me write this was I did it for the first time. At a casino, playing normal nonsensical me, saw literally about 148 flops out of 150 PLO hands, quadrupled my money over the course of the night (mostly on winning a 50/50 all in), and eventually shut it down. We had one night in Vegas and fellow PCFer was stuck, so stuck it out for another hour or so.

Card dead, I played more tight/ABC, and an hour later booked the win. Afterwards we chatted and I couldn't believe how droll and boring it was to shift style and clam it up. Def not something I'll plan on future trips, I'm fine with a hit and run or just leaving whenever I'm done. At the same time, I have no issue with people doing it at a home game, lol they may play regularly and be there to win money.

It was just an interesting realization for me as I continue my very slow poker journey.
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If someone is at my home game, they give no prior indication that they are leaving early, hit a big score and then announce that they are out, they will go to the back of my list for an invite to the next game. Do it again and they are off the list. They will also get a stern warning after the first time.

A home game does not exist solely to make money playing poker. It's a social engagement. You're there to spend an evening with your friends playing poker, chatting, drinking, or whatever. When I go to a home game, I play until the game breaks up, or until I bust out and have lost whatever predetermined amount I came to play with. If you go to a game without the intent to stay until it breaks, then you let the host know. If not at the beginning of the night, then at least some reasonable amount of time prior to leaving. I'd consider 30 minutes to be the bare minimum, and preferably at least an hour, or best of all, at the beginning of play.

Example: Arrive at 7 PM. "Hey Bob, thanks for hosting tonight. I know we usually play until midnight, but I have an early appointment in the morning. I need to jet around 10:30. Hope that's not a problem." How hard is that?

And don't even get me started about late arrivals...
 
ThrowBack said:
better late than never! I love people coming and sitting in on a game. It breaks up rotation, changes the play, adds fresh cash mmmmm
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That's not what I mean. I'm talking about 8 players committing to come to a game that starts at 7:00. And it's now almost 8:00 and only 4 have shown up... GRRRRRR!!!

Late arrivers are impacting the fun for everyone else who was planning on a full table. And in some cases, the host may have said no to someone else who wanted to be there because you thought you had a full table.
 

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