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I read a lot of posts on this site and got a good eye on ceramic poker chips. Are these three chips of high quality that can be used for cash games and tournaments in home games for several years? Samples will be ordered in the future.
BOLD CLASS CERAMIC POKER CHIP
NEVADA JACK SKULLS POKER CHIP
Bold Class ceramic poker chip
Lucky Dragon ceramic poker chip
 

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I don't think you will have any problems with durability if you get those ceramics. Especially if you get them from BR Pro Poker (site vendor).

I've always liked the look of the Lucky Dragon ceramics. And for 5 cents more per chip, you can get each denomination in the color you want, instead of going with the standard colors. You can even pay an upcharge and get 43mm ceramics instead of 39mm. The other popular choices here, as @churlbut18 referred to, are a little too cartoony for my taste. But people seem to love them. Definitely get samples so you know which one you prefer.
 

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I've got 3 and a half sets of DDLM if you go that route... LMK. :D

IMO you can't go wrong with anything from the team at BRpro. The have had the patience of a saint working with me on semi-custom as well as fully custom orders.

Samples are the way to whatever you decide though!

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I read a lot of posts on this site and got a good eye on ceramic poker chips. Are these three chips of high quality that can be used for cash games and tournaments in home games for several years? Samples will be ordered in the future.
BOLD CLASS CERAMIC POKER CHIP
NEVADA JACK SKULLS POKER CHIP
Bold Class ceramic poker chip
Lucky Dragon ceramic poker chip
I have some ceramic samples if you want. Just let me know. Have Nevada Jack skulls from BR pro and a Chipco set.
 

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It's all about the blanks that you choose to use. Definitely get samples, but the quality of a good/great ceramic (SunFly, ABC, etc), is absolutely acceptable to play with. The fact that you can customize them as well makes security a non-issue if that's also a concern.

I have a set of the NJ Skulls and a set of the DDLM 43mm. The NJ Skulls were my gateway drug into this forum of money-sucking goodness. They were my go-to set for about half a year. Now they are my go-to travel set b/c of their durability. The DDLMs haven't been put into action yet since I just got them, but they are going to be a top contender for my monthly home game (when the apocalypse ends).
 

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I read a lot of posts on this site and got a good eye on ceramic poker chips. Are these three chips of high quality that can be used for cash games and tournaments in home games for several years? Samples will be ordered in the future.
BOLD CLASS CERAMIC POKER CHIP
NEVADA JACK SKULLS POKER CHIP
Bold Class ceramic poker chip
Lucky Dragon ceramic poker chip
Any of the ceramic chip offerings by BRProPoker or Sun-Fly are excellent quality and will last a lifetime of regular home use.

Get samples, and pick the design(s) you like best. Don't be afraid to order custom chips from either manufacturer, either.
 

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thank you
I was relieved to hear from everyone that it was okaaay. I will order a sample
Everyone names br pro shop well but is apollon chip shop ok?
 

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BR Pro/ABC Gifts and Awards are chips that last forever. Hobbyphilic put some Nevada Jacks in a blender and the freakin' blender broke.


Any more questions?

Bah-hahahaha this is the EXACT video that helped me make my decision on my first set of NJs. Also, stupid Hobbyphilic ... those awesome videos are the reason I'm selling kidneys to pay for chips here...
 

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Bah-hahahaha this is the EXACT video that helped me make my decision on my first set of NJs. Also, stupid Hobbyphilic ... those awesome videos are the reason I'm selling kidneys to pay for chips here...

As much as whiners like to complain about ceramic chips (I'm looking at you Kyle), there's nothing wrong with them provided you don't do what casinos do and that's have them shuffled so much that they end up losing their sheen. Keep in mind, when Chipco sold chips to casinos in the '90s and 2000s, it took 15 years of casino use before the chips wore down to THAT level.

That's why @SUN-FLY Poker Chips's may end up getting my business with the custom set. Their 43mm Polyinno's would probably work with the design I'm having made. I just have to find out the turnaround time for those chips. My other two options are THC's and CPC's.

The problem is right now I don't want to spend hundreds on chips and be looking for ONE specific color to finish the set. That's why even though I have some offers, I'm afraid if I go with THC's, I won't be able to complete the set. CPC's I know I will be able to but the queue is about 6 months.
 

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Ceramics are very durable, so you shouldn't have to worry about them unless you like to ritually run over them with a backhoe after every weekly game or something. Likely the only thing more durable is a high quality plastic.
 

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BR Pro/ABC Gifts and Awards are chips that last forever. Hobbyphilic put some Nevada Jacks in a blender and the freakin' blender broke.


Any more questions?

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so strong chip...
Is Nevada jack the best hard? Or. Are all 50¢ Ceramic chips products great?(abc,,brpro,,Apollo,,shop)

Are ceramic chips normal 100chip tray?
And is it okay to stack trays?

I m,, thinking about the breakdown but i wall listen to it in the tounament thread
 

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thank you
I was relieved to hear from everyone that it was okaaay. I will order a sample
Everyone names br pro shop well but is apollon chip shop ok?
The apollon site is Sun-Fly's site for ordering stock designs. Use their Sun-Fly site for customs.
 

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You'll get killed on shipping from Apollon/Sunfly.

just for a lark, I ordered 1000 chips and tried to calculate the shipping cost.

An $810 order with a $159 shipping charge.

it's a lot but considering most 43mm customs go for $1.00 a chip anyways on places like BRProPoker, is that really a bad thing?
 

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just for a lark, I ordered 1000 chips and tried to calculate the shipping cost.

An $810 order with a $159 shipping charge.

it's a lot but considering most 43mm customs go for $1.00 a chip anyways on places like BRProPoker, is that really a bad thing?

No, it's not. But you'll get killed on lower quantities and on samples. But, yes, if you're getting 1000 chips, that helps mellow the shipping
 

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No, it's not. But you'll get killed on lower quantities and on samples. But, yes, if you're getting 1000 chips, that helps mellow the shipping

So note: If I get Sunfly chips, order 1000. That's helpful dude. (no sarcasm, that's actually REALLY helpful, because Sunfly 43's are on my short list of chips to get)
 

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just for a lark, I ordered 1000 chips and tried to calculate the shipping cost.

An $810 order with a $159 shipping charge.

it's a lot but considering most 43mm customs go for $1.00 a chip anyways on places like BRProPoker, is that really a bad thing?
Sun-fly Group-buy, has a nice ring to it don't it?
 

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so strong chip...
Is Nevada jack the best hard? Or. Are all 50¢ Ceramic chips products great?(abc,,brpro,,Apollo,,shop)

Are ceramic chips normal 100chip tray?
And is it okay to stack trays?

I m,, thinking about the breakdown but i wall listen to it in the tounament thread

Well, all the @BR Pro Poker molds will be on the same chip. Whether you get Nevada Jack, Wicked Spades, Dia De Los Muertos, Tiki Kings or any of the others, you're going to get a solid and durable chip.


The Apollon/Sunfly chips are more a hybrid but I think they're going to be durable enough to last you for years. The only downside to ceramics are over time the design will wear off and the chip will eventually become unstackable, but it took most casinos that sold Chipco chips years of 24/7 people using and shuffling them in order to get that way. in Home Use, you won't have that problem. Also, you don't have to oil them, in fact, it's recommended you don't.
 

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Well, all the @BR Pro Poker molds will be on the same chip. Whether you get Nevada Jack, Wicked Spades, Dia De Los Muertos, Tiki Kings or any of the others, you're going to get a solid and durable chip.

The stock NJ Skull feel a lot more textured than the DDLM 43mm blanks.
 

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The stock NJ Skull feel a lot more textured than the DDLM 43mm blanks.

That's probably because the chips are different. I think they explained to me once that the machine they use is specifically made for 39mm chips, and they have to modify it for the 43mm's, so that may be why. I dunno.
 

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That's probably because the chips are different. I think they explained to me once that the machine they use is specifically made for 39mm chips, and they have to modify it for the 43mm's, so that may be why. I dunno.

Normally I would @-mention them here so we could get the answer straight from the source. But I know that Gene/Kristil have enough going on right now filling orders, so I won't bother them. But, yes, I've always been curious about that. I actually prefer the 43mm DDLM chips over the Nevada Jack skulls b/c the artwork is much clearer without the extra texture on the NJs.

I would be interested to know if it truly is b/c of the size or if the fully-custom 39mm's are more like the 43mm's.
 

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@Lototo ceramics are very durable and should last a lifetime in home use.
My first set of "real" chips was custom CHIPCO circa 1985-ish. They still look and play like new.
Chipco is long gone but you can get great quality from Sun-Fly or BRPro

Get samples !
 

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so strong chip...
Is Nevada jack the best hard? Or. Are all 50¢ Ceramic chips products great?(abc,,brpro,,Apollo,,shop)

Are ceramic chips normal 100chip tray?
And is it okay to stack trays?

I m,, thinking about the breakdown but i wall listen to it in the tounament thread

I’m new here and started my journey recently, like you. I ordered a ton of samples and found I’m a fan of the brpropoker products. Pick a few designs that interest you, order samples, and then go from there. And then come back two weeks later and order Paulsons. Like me. :)
 

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That's probably because the chips are different. I think they explained to me once that the machine they use is specifically made for 39mm chips, and they have to modify it for the 43mm's, so that may be why. I dunno.
They have said before the NJ blanks are not the same as ABC blanks that the Tiki/DDLM/bold class are printed on. Can't search for it at 2:30 am here but if you look back through Gene's posts its in there.
 

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@BearMetal Found it. Actually it was an email from Gene when I was trying to decide on my first set. Good info so I'll just paste it here, also goes to show their level of customer response, seriously those folks are tops!
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Hi Bryce-



Haha…yes it’s a common path! I’ll go through and answer the questions all together, as it might make more sense as a whole than piece by piece.



I started ABC Gifts and Awards in 2004. I began manufacturing poker chips, and quickly earned a very good reputation on Chiptalk (the main poker chip forum at the time, of which PCF came from). At the time, our competitors in the US were Nevada Jacks, BR Pro, Palm Imports, and Chipco. In 2011 we acquired Nevada Jacks, 2016 acquired BR Pro, 2018 acquired Palm Imports. Chipco went bankrupt in around 2015, and their equipment was bought by Palm. After Chipco went bankrupt, some of their people started up a new company, Game On. They sold to another company last year, and I hear that they are no longer making ceramic chips, but not 100% sure. I’ve seen people on PCF try to order from them with no success.



A ceramic “blank” is the base chip that is used to print on. We manufacture on our ABC smooth blanks, and on the NJ textured blanks. (We also manufacture on Chipco blanks, but only for casinos) All ceramic chips from ABC/BR Pro are ABC smooth blanks, except for Nevada Jack or Desert Sands branded chips which are the textured chips.



The original owner of BR Pro had some designs that he licensed for Apollon Chips (Sunfly) to manufacture in China. Any chips purchased through them will not match ours – different blanks, different printing, different colors, etc. A sample set that you get from us would be basically useless if you intend to purchase from China. Of all the designs you mentioned, only the Dropa Disc is one that they sell…the others are all exclusively ours.



We don’t have any stock designs in 43mm, but can make them in that size. These would fall under the custom 43mm chip pricing. I put a couple sample 43mm chips in the package that went out for you today.



Regarding the BR Pro website not having AE/AP options…we’ve been working on a new website for quite some time. It’s nearly finished, but we’re so backed up that we’ve been stuck on about 95% for a while now. The new site will definitely have AE/AP options in the dropdown menu. I can’t believe the company that hosts the current site doesn’t have those.



Ok…well I think I touched on everything that you asked. If not, just let me know.



Thanks,

Gene

www.brpropoker.com

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I bet you could get the NJ printed on the ABC blanks if you asked real nice, maybe?
 
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I bet you could get the NJ printed on the ABC blanks if you asked real nice, maybe?
That's probably true. But they wouldn't match other existing NJ Skulls (or Desert Sands), if wanting to expand a current set, or wanting to later sell to somebody else who owned originals.
 
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