Tourney Calculating pot for PLO (1 Viewer)

[Beakertwang]

I love it. We did it similarly in my league starting a few years ago. Some players still really don't play any Omaha except for the 1-2 times per year we run it in the tournament, but they still seem to like it. And PLO can be a very expensive game to go and take your lumps in cash games, so cheaper tournaments can be a great intro to the game.

I'd be reluctant to play PLO/8 with completely inexperienced players, though. For one thing, the game is much slower as people try to figure out their hands, chop up pots, etc. But it's also common for people to misunderstand/misread their hands when they are learning Omaha, and if you add pot-limit to high-low it's a lot to take in. There's nothing more frustrating as a new player learning the game to lose a big pot not because your hand was worse, but because you genuinely didn't understand the rules correctly.

I’ll stick with high only.

It actually surprises me that PLO plays bigger and faster than NLHE. I know there’s more chasing, coolers, etc., but there also seems to be fewer big pots pre flop. But what do I know? I’ve just recently gotten to the point in the PCF P* games where PLO doesn’t tilt me.

 

[ekricket]

Both of these are covered in RROP (assumed-completion even acknowledged as being used some places for tournament play). An opening pot raise is always 4bb, and post-flop pots are rounded up to the next significant chip value for betting purposes. Much easier than trying to calculate using 1/2-bets and account for loose change.

This is not always the case, even though it’s the way I prefer. Not every casino will count the SB as complete, and for the 4x rule this is counted as complete. I played in a PLO event in the WSOP earlier this year and they did not count it as complete.

Run your home game either way (assumed completion is easier and better IMHO), but be prepared to adapt depending on where you play at. Don’t be the dick at the WSOP who says “that’s not how we play at home” when they don’t count the SB as complete. It wasn’t me, but about three people complained up till the time they got knocked out.

 

[abby99]

Don’t be the dick at the WSOP who says “that’s not how we play at home”

 

[timinater]

Also, do I reduce the starting stacks for PL games? Instead of 200bb for NLHE, do 100bb for PLO?

Noooo.

We played an Omaha tourney with a NL structure that should last four hours. It maybe lasted an hour. You’ll want to be a fair bit deeper.

 

[Mojo1312]

I’ll stick with high only.

It actually surprises me that PLO plays bigger and faster than NLHE. I know there’s more chasing, coolers, etc., but there also seems to be fewer big pots pre flop. But what do I know? I’ve just recently gotten to the point in the PCF P* games where PLO doesn’t tilt me.

Pot control young grasshopper.

 

[Sprinsd]

I have never played PLO at a casino. 2 questions.

1) Do most players keep track of the exact pot?

2) if you say “pot” does the dealer tell you what the pot is or are you expected to know?

 

[ekricket]

1. You should keep track of it. Even in hands I’m not in I calculate/count it just to fight boredom.
2. The dealer. If you think it’s wrong ask for the floor.

Your frequently drawing, so it pays to know the odds your facing.

 

[fieldsy]

I have never played PLO at a casino. 2 questions.

1) Do most players keep track of the exact pot?

2) if you say “pot” does the dealer tell you what the pot is or are you expected to know?

If you say “pot” the dealer should know. Some dealers are much better than others, and some players are better than others at keeping track. A couple years ago I had Dominik Nitsche at my table at a WSOP tournament and he was like a human computer. He wouldn’t even be in the hand, and some player would reraise pot and Nitsche would instantly announce the number before the dealer even had a chance to gather her thoughts.

Incidentally, since you asked about casino PLO cash games, it’s worth noting that some cash games have unique rules that you should be aware of. For example, in Vegas most of the $1-2 PLO games are actually $5 to limp in. And even though the blinds are $1 and $2, since it would be $5 to call, a player can open-raise to $13. Which also means those games play bigger than you’d think a $1-2 would get.