Are circus game players the kinky swingers of the poker world? (2 Viewers)

[doublebooyah85]

@BarrieJ3 was marked safe from this shitshow today.

4 boards, haha how can you fold?!?

 

[GamingWithChips]

I think it would often work well that tournaments could/should be Hold’Em as there’s enough spice already with raising blinds. And then cash games could/should be a consistent rotation of Mixed games (including NLHE) to spice things up with fixed blinds.

That’s how I plan to run my games anyway.

 

[Coyote]

Holdem is great. Just don’t want to play it EVERY time I sit down to play poker.

That's why there are slight variations for the sake of variety, still serious and playable NL.
Like simple Pineapple or Cuckoo bird Hold'em.
5- or 6-card Stud, PL, with a tiny dealer ante and no bring-in can be candidates too.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

Double derailment (3 boards, 2 go away)
Triple derailment (4 boards, 3 go away)

 

[BarrieJ3]

I’d love to see your search history.

 

[inca911]

Is Lazy SHESHE Inspired or insanity? Opinions differ.

Players are dealt 5 cards. Standard pot-limit betting, no card splitting. Best 2 card hand wins half the pot. Best 3 card hand wins the other half.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Is Lazy SHESHE Inspiration or insanity? Opinions differ…:

Players are dealt 5 cards. Standard pot-limit betting, no card splitting. Best 2 card hand wins half the pot. Best 3 card hand wins the other half.

We split the cards after the flop. Has really increased the action. Lazy sounds like even more action.

 

[Tonysquander]

So at DiD how much furry kink will there be vs cheese pizza?

It's all kink all the time at a @CraigT78 production.

Why do you think they are forcing him to move out of Texas?

 

[merkong]

Normalize tossing your car keys in the giant fishbowl while you’re buying your starting stack.

 

[pltrgyst]

The Official Old Guy Attitude (OOGA):

No, they're the short-attention-span, low-IQ herd who grew up preferring wild-card games to stud and draw, pinochle to bridge, checkers to chess, drag racing to road racing (i.e., horsepower to handling), cornhole to darts, football to baseball and basketball, and have grown up to favor pickleball over tennis.

 

[upNdown]

Are any circus games played fixed limit? I would think that would be more civilized. The one big meet-up that I played, everything was pot limit. So it was very often pot, pot, pot, and somebody got felted pretty much every other hand. And that was fun, but we were playing more mixed-type games than circus games. So yeah, the thrill of winning 1,000 big blinds if you scooped was cool, but you kinda had an idea where you stood.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Are any circus games played fixed limit? I would think that would be more civilized. The one big meet-up that I played, everything was pot limit. So it was very often pot, pot, pot, and somebody got felted pretty much every other hand. And that was fun, but we were playing more mixed-type games than circus games. So yeah, the thrill of winning 1,000 big blinds if you scooped was cool, but you kinda had an idea where you stood.

Circus games (and most mixed) should be played at limit. Or at most half pot limit. And then some idiots like myself play them at pot limit.

 

[CraigT78]

So at DiD how much furry kink will there be vs cheese pizza?

Cheese pizza is only allowed in the alley.

 

[CraigT78]

It's all kink all the time at a @CraigT78 production.

Why do you think they are forcing him to move out of Texas?

"Forcing me" is a tad of a stretch. The state says I can't leave until the youngest graduates High School.

We are dropping him off at his graduation in a UHaul........

 

[Old State]

Because after enough time, it becomes formulaic. Especially tournament poker. Once you've experienced the 1000:1 beat, delivered the 1000:1 suckout, and everything in between countless times, it just loses it's appeal.

Never found Holdem to be formulaic or solvable. Humans aren’t computers and variance is a reality. All the other games do is add more variance. They increase the luck factor and decrease the skill factor.

Now that few of my regulars have any young children anymore my games fill up 9-10 handed within 2 hours of the invite going out. Half of them are regular casino players who also play just holdem there as well. I’ve been hosting poker for 27 years…24 of them have been holdem. No one ever seems to get tired of it.

 

[Moxie Mike]

Never found Holdem to be formulaic or solvable.

Spend the next year learning Omaha, O8, Stud/8, etc. and you'll find that from a hand-reading standpoint, NLHE is like if Euphoria were on network TV.

Increased variance ≠ reduced skill. But a game where a player can go all in at any point in the hand, thereby absolving themselves of the pressure of navigating future streets, is inherently less complex than one where difficult decisions are forced all the way to showdown.

 

[Old State]

Spend the next year learning Omaha, O8, Stud/8, etc. and you'll find that from a hand-reading standpoint, NLHE is like if Euphoria were on network TV.

Increased variance ≠ reduced skill. But a game where a player can go all in at any point in the hand, thereby absolving themselves of the pressure of navigating future streets, is inherently less complex than one where difficult decisions are forced all the way to showdown.

I learned how to play almost all the games long ago. Played them a few times at other people games.

I also didn’t say variance. I said

They increase the luck factor and decrease the skill factor.

That is mathematical fact. The swings are also much much more….Omaha based games especially.


…..But this thread was about circus games vs straight poker.

‘But a game where a player can go all in at any point in the hand, thereby absolving themselves of the pressure of navigating future streets”

They also take the calculated risk of losing their entire stack knowing them may have to see the next two streets.

That’s no limit though . I actually prefer limit holdem but haven’t been unable to get a game in 20 years.

 

[abby99]

AY. the next year learning Omaha, O8, Stud/8, etc. and you'll find that from a hand-reading standpoint, NLHE is like if Euphoria were on network TV.

This. Learning Omaha and O8 improved my NLHE game significantly.

I love a good cheese pizza but wouldn't want to limit my diet to cheese pizza. Not only is a varied diet much more interesting, it's important for good nutrition.

 

[bigdonkey]

What if she was wearing a different outfit, like perhaps the mascot from Buc-ees ready to dole out some southern justice? Would that do it for you? LOL

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%#%# you, buddy! Now I've got to go home this evening and have a, um, potentially very uncomfortable discussion with my wife.

 

[raynmanas]

All the other games do is add more variance.

I also didn’t say variance.

regardless, i can see both sides. i agree hold'em is far from "solved" in any home game especially, but it is inherently simpler. circus games = more action - it's not really that hard to understand why a certain type of person would prefer them (e.g. have you ever played with @MatB )

But a game where a player can go all in at any point in the hand, thereby absolving themselves of the pressure of navigating future streets, is inherently less complex than one where difficult decisions are forced all the way to showdown.

but all the chips get in far more often in PL circus games than in NL hold'em - it just takes a bit more time to get through the "pot - pot - pot - pot" aspect of it.

 

[detroitdad]

Isn't it possible to enjoy both? Sometimes you get bored with missionary and simply want to mix it up.

 

[RadicusScout]

Because after enough time, it becomes formulaic. Especially tournament poker. Once you've experienced the 1000:1 beat, delivered the 1000:1 suckout, and everything in between countless times, it just loses it's appeal.

That's the allure of games that aren't 'solved'. Plus, the more cards you're dealt the more playable hands you get... which keep you engaged. Folding 4 out of every 5 hands you're dealt sucks balls.


What if she was wearing a different outfit, like perhaps the mascot from Buc-ees ready to dole out some southern justice? Would that do it for you? LOL

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[chippitydoodah]

Is that what it is? Normal poker games no longer excite you, so you have to play freaky games with crazy names and crazier rules?

I guess it’s possible I’m the one who’s missing out, because I’ve never been dealt a hand of bum-bum or scrotum. But then again, I don’t need to boink the neighbor’s wife wearing a bunny costume, to know it’s not for me.

I'm Swingin'

 

[raynmanas]

Isn't it possible to enjoy both? Sometimes you get bored with missionary and simply want to mix it up.

ha, this is actually a perfect analogy. circus = doggie.

 

[Machine]

Is that what it is? Normal poker games no longer excite you, so you have to play freaky games with crazy names and crazier rules?

I guess it’s possible I’m the one who’s missing out, because I’ve never been dealt a hand of bum-bum or scrotum. But then again, I don’t need to boink the neighbor’s wife wearing a bunny costume, to know it’s not for me.

The neighbor:

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This might be the best post of the year

 

[upNdown]

This might be the best post of the year

Bring on deraillment5!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Meh, I enjoy all of them. Changing priorities and strategies keeps it interesting. I can do well in Hold'Em and I can do well in Scarney. Mastering more games is always impressive to me. We can treat them dismissively and say there's too much variance but there are ways to play them all well. I royally screwed my hand in Veronica at PHL last year and still think about it, the draw and split pot natures make everything interesting. Love it.

Plus, if you want to be profitable you gotta ride the lightning! Lots of money to be made catering to nutcases who just want to gamble and think that there's no point in folding pre-flop in Scarney!

All that being said, I now understand Chicago is not loved by either side. They show up to the swinger orgy with buffalo wings.

 

[detroitdad]

Meh, I enjoy all of them. Changing priorities and strategies keeps it interesting. I can do well in Hold'Em and I can do well in Scarney. Mastering more games is always impressive to me. We can treat them dismissively and say there's too much variance but there are ways to play them all well. I royally screwed my hand in Veronica at PHL last year and still think about it, the draw and split pot natures make everything interesting. Love it.

Plus, if you want to be profitable you gotta ride the lightning! Lots of money to be made catering to nutcases who just want to gamble and think that there's no point in folding pre-flop in Scarney!

All that being said, I now understand Chicago is not loved by either side. They show up to the swinger orgy with buffalo wings.

Very well said sir. Very similar to my post

 

[Old State]

They were two separate statements he combined into one

 

[acezag]

4 boards, haha how can you fold?!?