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Hello everyone!

I've been playing poker for a few years now and absolutely love the game.
I host a lot of home cash games, and over time, I’ve developed a passion for chips.
For years, I’ve been eyeing a CPC set, but I wasn’t sure if my poker passion would last.

Well... it has :)

So I’ve finally decided to go for it and build my dream CPC set!

I know it’s a bit excessive, but I want every player to have a large chip stack in front of them. I value aesthetics and that classic casino feel, even if it’s a bit inefficient chip wise.

Planned Denominations & Quantities:​

  • $0.50 × 200
  • $1 × 300
  • $5 × 100
  • $10 × 100
  • $25 × 100
  • $100 × 100
  • $500 × 100
  • $1,000 × 100
  • $5,000 × 100
  • $10,000 × 100
    Total: 1,300 chips
Yeah, I know it’s way more than I need, but I prefer it to more than less. :)

Notes:​

  • Chips are ordered left to right by denomination in the image.
  • Higher denominations have more complex spot patterns.
  • I aimed for traditional color schemes, but with a personal touch.
  • The last chip is an extra I'm unsure about.
  • Inlay is just a placeholder for now (cruise ship for fun).

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Would love to hear your feedback on spot choices, color combos, anything!
This community knows their chips and I’d love to get some input before locking things in.

Once I will decide on my theme I will get on the inlay design and upload it here as well.


Thanks in advance!
 
The best way to give large chip stacks is just to have many of the same denominations, rather than many denominations. I do not own CPCs, but from the pictures it looks like the 1K and 5K would get mixed somewhat.

Questions I have:
What cash stakes are you playing? With a budget for 1,300 chips, you could easily get a cash set and a tournament set.

If you decide to split it into 2 sets, what base chip would you prefer in a tournament?
 
I think is not a good idea to mix white and bright white in the same chip. The colors in the screen pop up much more than in reality.
Don't need so many denominations...on the other hand, your are designing so complex chips, edges, etc. I like a progression complexity.
 
I rarely provide input on these threads but that's way too many denominations. You can get away with a tourney set stopping at 1k and add bigger chips later. As has been said, absolutely kill the $10 and $10k and invest more design time and money into the adjacent denominations.
 
I think you should add an $8 and a $13 chip. Why did you stop at 10k? You need a 25k, 50k 100k and 1m. YOLO, you don’t want to have to order a second set

Also have you considered a break down that would actually allow you to host a cash game, maybe something robust enough to last through multiple stakes, or something you could resale?
 
I don’t know why but I really like these odd ball denoms or vanity denoms, they are just fun
 
TheRealStephen12 said:
The best way to give large chip stacks is just to have many of the same denominations, rather than many denominations. I do not own CPCs, but from the pictures it looks like the 1K and 5K would get mixed somewhat.

Questions I have:
What cash stakes are you playing? With a budget for 1,300 chips, you could easily get a cash set and a tournament set.

If you decide to split it into 2 sets, what base chip would you prefer in a tournament?
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I see what you're saying however from my experience and from the players I play with we like to have some versatility in the denominations, So instead of having a stack of 1's and 5's we have 1's, 5's and 10's.
I know it does not make much sense but this is how we like it haha.

We usually play .5/1 and 1/2 with the odd 2/5.
Regarding the tournament set, not my thing I dislike tournaments and much prefer cash games.

So I want to make a super big cash set that I could use in the future as well, because we can get to using that 1,000 chips although it's rare.
 
CarlosStorm said:
I think is not a good idea to mix white and bright white in the same chip. The colors in the screen pop up much more than in reality.
Don't need so many denominations...on the other hand, your are designing so complex chips, edges, etc. I like a progression complexity.
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I get your point, seems logical I will alter the white chip, I've just started so I'm open to changes.

And I do get I do not need so many denomination but I want them, this set will also be a show piece for me.
 
Machine said:
I think you should add an $8 and a $13 chip. Why did you stop at 10k? You need a 25k, 50k 100k and 1m. YOLO, you don’t want to have to order a second set

Also have you considered a break down that would actually allow you to host a cash game, maybe something robust enough to last through multiple stakes, or something you could resale?
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I've considering now adding an 1.02e22 chip, thank you for your suggestion.

On a serious note, I don't really care about re-sale value as I'm pretty confident I'm not going to sell this set.
Also I have a kit we currently play with (cash games) with the same denominations and it's working well, what do you mean by "break down that would actually allow you to host a cash game"?
 
JustOneChip said:
On a serious note, I don't really care about re-sale value as I'm pretty confident I'm not going to sell this set.
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Oh, okay. Allow me to channel my inner Socrates: How many sets have you purchased and not sold so far? While I'm sure this comes off as sarcastic, I'm asking it honestly; I expect the answer is 0. I'm trying to point out that you don't know what you don't know, and I think you are a bit early in your journey to make such a declaration. I, too, was young once and may or may not have felt this way not so long ago.

Your post title is .. Another CPC set post ...
I've seen a few posts about sets and breakdowns to the point I wrote a post about how to create a breakdown for various stakes. You can find it in my signature.

The breakdown you suggest is a waste of money and not realistic to cover .5/1 to 2/5.
Most of the time, people think they need more than 100 fracs, and while I would disagree, this isn't the worst aspect of your breakdown. The .50 chip is one of the most efficient and with a single table you can run using only 40 of them, I would suggest at least 60 but I digress.. I wouldn't suggest buying more than 100 and I wouldn't suggest buying less than 100.

I would suggest reading these posts:

New member

Fracs

Breakdown

The real issue is your lack of 5s, and a ridiculous amount of denoms you plan to purchase. I assume you're looking to cover a single table, you don't need 300 1s, 200 is more than enough. Not only is it a waste because it's not efficient, but the cost of your chips will likely start around 4 USD. 4 x 1300, that's 5200 off the cuff.

You should be using 5s as the chip with the most amount on the table. Using more than 100 fracs would mean that your players are betting lower amounts and overusing fracs to bet because having more chips in front of you is fun. Nothing wrong with this, but this is counterintuitive to having so many higher denominators.

JustOneChip said:

Planned Denominations & Quantities:​

  • $0.50 × 200
  • $1 × 300
  • $5 × 100
  • $10 × 100
  • $25 × 100
  • $100 × 100
  • $500 × 100
  • $1,000 × 100
  • $5,000 × 100
  • $10,000 × 100
    Total: 1,300 chips
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Unless you're playing .50 / 2 / 10 and skipping 5s you shouldn't have a 10 denom at all. I would prefer to see a 7, 8, 11, or 13 denom chip, even if you frequently put it into play.

Unless your players have at least $8,000 in play you can't really use the 1,000 chip, the blinds at .5 / 1 won't really even need 100s, People that are being hopeful who play 1/2 will order a 500 in hopes to get to put it on the table 1 or 2 times across years of playing.

The standard breakdown to cover your spreads would be:

frac x 100
1 x 200
5 x 400
25 x 100
100 x 100
500 x 20 (for fun)

start here and edit it as your emotional appeal plays in. Also note this won't cover a raked game

Another suggestion is for large chip amount purchase and high level inserts consider Tina chips to get a feel for the set.

For chip feedback back you should use a more neutral color than the default green, which is gross.

I would start with planning out Frac / 1 / 5 / 25 base colors, after that pick your fav chip or the most used chip, spoiler its the 5, pick the 5 build out what you like the most with whatever pattern of inserts you like most, and then build around that.

Those two yellow chips will cause dirty stacks, also you have a lot of chips that clash with color combos.

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Machine said:
Oh, okay. Allow me to channel my inner Socrates: How many sets have you purchased and not sold so far? While I'm sure this comes off as sarcastic, I'm asking it honestly; I expect the answer is 0. I'm trying to point out that you don't know what you don't know, and I think you are a bit early in your journey to make such a declaration. I, too, was young once and may or may not have felt this way not so long ago.

Your post title is .. Another CPC set post ...
I've seen a few posts about sets and breakdowns to the point I wrote a post about how to create a breakdown for various stakes. You can find it in my signature.

The breakdown you suggest is a waste of money and not realistic to cover .5/1 to 2/5.
Most of the time, people think they need more than 100 fracs, and while I would disagree, this isn't the worst aspect of your breakdown. The .50 chip is one of the most efficient and with a single table you can run using only 40 of them, I would suggest at least 60 but I digress.. I wouldn't suggest buying more than 100 and I wouldn't suggest buying less than 100.

I would suggest reading these posts:

New member

Fracs

Breakdown

The real issue is your lack of 5s, and a ridiculous amount of denoms you plan to purchase. I assume you're looking to cover a single table, you don't need 300 1s, 200 is more than enough. Not only is it a waste because it's not efficient, but the cost of your chips will likely start around 4 USD. 4 x 1300, that's 5200 off the cuff.

You should be using 5s as the chip with the most amount on the table. Using more than 100 fracs would mean that your players are betting lower amounts and overusing fracs to bet because having more chips in front of you is fun. Nothing wrong with this, but this is counterintuitive to having so many higher denominators.



Unless you're playing .50 / 2 / 10 and skipping 5s you shouldn't have a 10 denom at all. I would prefer to see a 7, 8, 11, or 13 denom chip, even if you frequently put it into play.

Unless your players have at least $8,000 in play you can't really use the 1,000 chip, the blinds at .5 / 1 won't really even need 100s, People that are being hopeful who play 1/2 will order a 500 in hopes to get to put it on the table 1 or 2 times across years of playing.

The standard breakdown to cover your spreads would be:

frac x 100
1 x 200
5 x 400
25 x 100
100 x 100
500 x 20 (for fun)

start here and edit it as your emotional appeal plays in. Also note this won't cover a raked game

Another suggestion is for large chip amount purchase and high level inserts consider Tina chips to get a feel for the set.

For chip feedback back you should use a more neutral color than the default green, which is gross.

I would start with planning out Frac / 1 / 5 / 25 base colors, after that pick your fav chip or the most used chip, spoiler its the 5, pick the 5 build out what you like the most with whatever pattern of inserts you like most, and then build around that.

Those two yellow chips will cause dirty stacks, also you have a lot of chips that clash with color combos.

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Thank you for your feedback and deep insights, I will look into all you've said.

I really do appreciate it!
 
JustOneChip said:
I see what you're saying however from my experience and from the players I play with we like to have some versatility in the denominations, So instead of having a stack of 1's and 5's we have 1's, 5's and 10's.
I know it does not make much sense but this is how we like it haha.

We usually play .5/1 and 1/2 with the odd 2/5.
Regarding the tournament set, not my thing I dislike tournaments and much prefer cash games.

So I want to make a super big cash set that I could use in the future as well, because we can get to using that 1,000 chips although it's rare.
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You have already gotten some very good advice, so apologies, as I may repeat some things that are important.

Step one - tap the brakes... Actually, you don't have any choice, as the new owner of CPC is not yet taking orders, so you have some time to think this through.

Step two - Spend some serious time here in the forum. @Machine linked you to some threads. Read them and think about the recommendations. You have people in this forum with decades of experience. Learn from them. You think you want a certain type of set, but at this point, you don't know what you don't know. Don't worry, many of us were in the same place as you before we came to PCF. I definitely was. I had many preconceived notions about what I thought a poker chip set should look like. I humbly admit that I was wrong. You have you group now, but there are no promises that this group will be your group forever. I can honestly tell your that some players would show up to play in a game with all those denominations, and never come back again.

Additional advice - If you want to spend money on some big denoms that will never hit the table, that's your deal. Do what you want. But you posted this here on PCF, so we have to assume you really do want our advice. You really do need to think carefully about the denoms in your playable range. Basically from your fracs up to $100. You absolutely, positively need more $5s. 3-4 racks of them for a single table game. For all the stakes you mentioned that you play, $5 chips are your primary workhorse chip. Your game will suffer if you don't have enough of them.

And you need less fracs and $1s. 100 fracs are more than enough. A lot of players get very annoyed with too many fracs on the table. And 200 $1s are exactly the best amount for nearly any game that uses them. The reason you don't want too many denoms on the table at the same time, is so that players can glance at their opponents stacks and make a resonable guess as to how many chips they have behind. This is critical when playing serious poker. Too many small value chips, and too many different denoms both make this estimation process a lot more difficult. Again, this is something I only learned after I came here to PCF. It's not something I ever thought about until someone else mentioned it to me. Now it makes perfect sense. We are not just telling you to do things the way we do them. We're trying to help you see what has worked best over many years of experience.

Good luck, and welcome to PCF! And keep the questions coming. There are a lot of really great people here. If you stay here long enough, you will meet good people and make relationships.
 
Finally, somebody else can take the heat off me for a bit :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: All those chips on the second row really jump off the page. I'd highly recommend getting color samples from CPC. They have all the colors they offer for $60 bucks or so. Well worth it. The colors are quite different in real life - colors are more muted. I agree with the earlier comment on the white chip. They are pretty close in real life, the regular white has zero tan in it like the CPC chip tool has.
Ummm... no butterscotch?
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
You have already gotten some very good advice, so apologies, as I may repeat some things that are important.

Step one - tap the brakes... Actually, you don't have any choice, as the new owner of CPC is not yet taking orders, so you have some time to think this through.

Step two - Spend some serious time here in the forum. @Machine linked you to some threads. Read them and think about the recommendations. You have people in this forum with decades of experience. Learn from them. You think you want a certain type of set, but at this point, you don't know what you don't know. Don't worry, many of us were in the same place as you before we came to PCF. I definitely was. I had many preconceived notions about what I thought a poker chip set should look like. I humbly admit that I was wrong. You have you group now, but there are no promises that this group will be your group forever. I can honestly tell your that some players would show up to play in a game with all those denominations, and never come back again.

Additional advice - If you want to spend money on some big denoms that will never hit the table, that's your deal. Do what you want. But you posted this here on PCF, so we have to assume you really do want our advice. You really do need to think carefully about the denoms in your playable range. Basically from your fracs up to $100. You absolutely, positively need more $5s. 3-4 racks of them for a single table game. For all the stakes you mentioned that you play, $5 chips are your primary workhorse chip. Your game will suffer if you don't have enough of them.

And you need less fracs and $1s. 100 fracs are more than enough. A lot of players get very annoyed with too many fracs on the table. And 200 $1s are exactly the best amount for nearly any game that uses them. The reason you don't want too many denoms on the table at the same time, is so that players can glance at their opponents stacks and make a resonable guess as to how many chips they have behind. This is critical when playing serious poker. Too many small value chips, and too many different denoms both make this estimation process a lot more difficult. Again, this is something I only learned after I came here to PCF. It's not something I ever thought about until someone else mentioned it to me. Now it makes perfect sense. We are not just telling you to do things the way we do them. We're trying to help you see what has worked best over many years of experience.

Good luck, and welcome to PCF! And keep the questions coming. There are a lot of really great people here. If you stay here long enough, you will meet good people and make relationships.
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I do take everything I read into consideration, I know most of the people here including yourself and @Machine know way more than I do.

Regarding your points, I've spoken with Mike from CPC and I know they are not taking orders as of now until about September he said to me a few days back, but I like to plan ahead and I also want to get a case for the set etc... so I have my work cut out for me before I pull the trigger.

I do want to spend money on the big denoms for 2 main reasons,
1) I want a fuller bigger set, I just do.
2) There were times where one player stacked everybody at the table and had a massive stack so he took a 1000 chip from the kit so we could have the lower denoms for the rest of the table.

I understand the importance of glancing over your opponents stack to estimate how much does he have behind, but even tho I will have more denoms I think by making them distinc it will be clear as well wouldn't it?

I will rethink my denominations and their quantities regardless.

Again thank you so much! I'm glad for all the help and advice I'm getting :D
 
Now for some feedback on chip colors. I'm going to copy in your graphic. CPC has some real good colors, and they have some dogs. If you haven't already, get you hands on a set of color chips. And please change the background color in the design tool. That army green is not conducive to viewing the chip colors. Go with the lighter grey color.

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50c chip. It's fine for a frac. Not the colors I would choose, but it's not my set. 212 is a good spot choice for a frac.
$1 chip - replace the white spot with something more interesting. Anything. I would also recommend looking at 312 or 3D14 for your spot pattern. 3D14 and 4D14 are awesome spot patterns, and you haven't used either one of them here.
$5 chip. Mandarin red is one of those dud colors. It's more orangey in real life than on the design tool. For a traditional red $5, go with Retro Red. For more pop! go with DG Tiger.
$10 chip - just don't do it.
$25 chip - 3 greens on one chip? Boring. Throw some other spot colors in there. Keep the DG green as the base color.
$100 & $500 chip - same as above. Add some color variety.
higher value chips - you will never use them, so do whatever you want. Or just don't get them. Those denoms are typically only used in tournament sets.
 
VerdeChipper said:
Finally, somebody else can take the heat off me for a bit :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: All those chips on the second row really jump off the page. I'd highly recommend getting color samples from CPC. They have all the colors they offer for $60 bucks or so. Well worth it. The colors are quite different in real life - colors are more muted. I agree with the earlier comment on the white chip. They are pretty close in real life, the regular white has zero tan in it like the CPC chip tool has.
Ummm... no butterscotch?
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Hahaha you're the brown guy haa ;)

I didn't know I could order a color sample set, could you refer me to the link please? that would be great I will for sure order it!
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
Now for some feedback on chip colors. I'm going to copy in your graphic. CPC has some real good colors, and they have some dogs. If you haven't already, get you hands on a set of color chips. And please change the background color in the design tool. That army green is not conducive to viewing the chip colors. Go with the lighter grey color.

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50c chip. It's fine for a frac. Not the colors I would choose, but it's not my set. 212 is a good spot choice for a frac.
$1 chip - replace the white spot with something more interesting. Anything. I would also recommend looking at 312 or 3D14 for your spot pattern. 3D14 and 4D14 are awesome spot patterns, and you haven't used either one of them here.
$5 chip. Mandarin red is one of those dud colors. It's more orangey in real life than on the design tool. For a traditional red $5, go with Retro Red. For more pop! go with DG Tiger.
$10 chip - just don't do it.
$25 chip - 3 greens on one chip? Boring. Throw some other spot colors in there. Keep the DG green as the base color.
$100 & $500 chip - same as above. Add some color variety.
higher value chips - you will never use them, so do whatever you want. Or just don't get them. Those denoms are typically only used in tournament sets.
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Got it, I will take a look at it tomorrow probably, but I must get the higher denoms I will feel incomplete without them hahaha.

Thank you for your advice again!
Very helpful!
 
JustOneChip said:
Oh thanks, don't know how I missed it, unfortunately I cannot order a sample set as I'm located outside of the US so I guess I'll just wait until they return shipping globally.
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You should be close to enough posts, post a wanted add for CPC sample
 
JustOneChip said:
Oh thanks, don't know how I missed it, unfortunately I cannot order a sample set as I'm located outside of the US so I guess I'll just wait until they return shipping globally.
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I actually have two sample sets, but one of them is unmarked. If you want it, you can have it for just the cost of shipping. PM me. I'll help you identity which chip is which, or I can mark on them with a sharpie if you want me to.
 

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