Just popped up on my feed.
Another HCL scandal? (3 Viewers)
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Just popped up on my feed.
Someone's gotta bring them, I guess? You gotta have some trust/faith in the host or dealer at the least. If they considered him a friend, then it wouldn't be crazy to assume he's trustworthy? (I didn't watch the video, just read a little blurb about what was happening.)
But then I don't play for millions; maybe if I did, I'd be more vigilant.
TheTrout
Two Pair
If the guys are okay with paper I will bring out two new decks to every game and then toss em when we’re done. They are from a closed or rebranded casino and still in plastic when I open them in front of everyone.
I keep a few plastic setups but prefer paper because we can just throw them away after and they’re less than $2/deck
I keep a few plastic setups but prefer paper because we can just throw them away after and they’re less than $2/deck
Right, but surely someone can spot $20 for a new setup of Copags for each game when there are millions of dollars on the table, no?
RagingAZN
Two Pair
HCL really know how to keep their show relevant with all these scandals!
OP
OP
Pretty sure it’s been discussed in another thread these marked cards come sealed and look like retail.
You can buy marked Copags.
Really desjgn is the only major brand that doesn't have packaged marked cards. I've seen Fournier, Copag, Dal Negro, Modiano, Cartamundi, and Piatnik marked cards for sale.
RocAFella1
Royal Flush
Gives new meaning to card protector.
I used to say that too. But honestly, those marked decks come factory sealed too.
Frogzilla
4 of a Kind
Not really a HCL scandal
credible cheating allegations against a player who plays on stream sometimes but the cheating is alleged to happen in private games only
credible cheating allegations against a player who plays on stream sometimes but the cheating is alleged to happen in private games only
The marked cards w the camera reading software is damn near undetectable 
Rakrul
Straight
Seems like someone should start selling anti-cheat packages with black light and that filter.
True. But I feel like the more dirty people that are around your game, the less good I feel about your game.
If nothing else, it’s a good reminder that poker is filthy.
ngmcs8203
Flush
OMG is this the game that be took Santosh to during the middle of HCL last week?
grandmeme
3 of a Kind
I've seen people bring out UV torches and filters before in a much lower stakes game. Maybe it has to do with trust?
Frogzilla
4 of a Kind
mars is denying the allegations pretty hard. This one gonna be fun
https://www.pokernews.com/news/2023/12/accused-poker-cheater-denies-allegations-45023.htm
https://www.pokernews.com/news/2023/12/accused-poker-cheater-denies-allegations-45023.htm
ngmcs8203
Flush
Sia is involved too! Where’s that weirdo Sia fan now?
TheTrout
Two Pair
I have never seen or heard of casino cards being marked during production, do casinos order cards like this?
These are sealed, unused, cards from an actual casino that shut down or rebranded. So the casino would have had to order them that way.
Not saying you’re not right but just looking for some evidence here
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Not casino, but tons of casinos/cardrooms use Fournier/COPAG/whatever.
https://www.markedcardsstore.com/store/p11/fournier-2818-ultimate-marked-decks.html
https://www.markedcardsstore.com/store/p1/copag-1546-luminous-marked-cards.html
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
Cheaper than RFID?The marked cards w the camera reading software is damn near undetectable
OP
OP
Yes I know the title was click bait. There’s also ONE WEIRD TRICK YOU WON’T BELIEVE!
Like @NotRealNameNoSir said above - there are so many legit loooking factory sealed marked decks available, that I just can’t put my trust in any deck.
I get what you’re saying about sealed casino decks being unique, but
1) the average poker player probably wouldn’t understand the point of a sealed casino deck
2) any deck, copag, Kem, or casino branded could be marked and resealed
3) the more we talk about this, the more weird it might feel to be the guy saying “I brought these decks, but they’re fine”
jamesjkim
Straight
I read that Mars brought in a card mechanic to deal who brought his own cards.
jamesjkim
Straight
TheTrout
Two Pair
Yeah I definitely agree there is no 100% foolproof way, but if one of us as players is going to bring the cards we play with in a home game, I think using new casino cards is the safest play.
Yes I could have opened the deck up and switched the cards out and had new stickers made to seal the deck when I finished and had them rewrapped in cellophane but other than that we’re in pretty good shape.
And we go through all this for a game where we usually don’t even have $1000 in the cash box
Agreed, if you lay with dogs, you wake up with fleas
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