How many racks of $5's for a cash set is enough? (21 Viewers)

[Rhodeman77]

I have moved from 5 racks of $5’s to 4 racks and the main reason is that playing on a round table, space is valuable. There is less space to spread out big stacks. But I like 6 racks in a set because with 200 $1’s, 600 $5’s, 200 $25’s and 40+ $100’s that set can now handle a second table if you end up with 12+ players that night. Stretching a single table set to cover two tables kinda sucks.

 

[chippitydoodah]

I just reread your question and you want to know what is the minimum amount. This past Saturday I used my set of Faro Dunes for $.25/$.50 $5 Spread Limit Dealer's Choice Circus games and I chose to bring two racks of fracs, two racks of ones, one rack of fives (I have 3 racks) and one rack of $25. 7 players with starting stacks of $100 (20/20/15). We had 5 reloads of 4 @ $25 so $1200 on the table. Available reserve bank was $2050. Does that mean the minimum amount of $5's is 1 rack? Not if I bring my set to a meet-up in Ohio! Not if the game is $25 Spread Limit. Not if the game is No Limit. That's why guys try to bullet proof (get the pun?) their set by going for 3 or 4 racks and even adding in a barrel of $100's to cover any situation. I'm going to vote for 3 but as I showed 1 was enough.

 

[Coyote]

I have moved from 5 racks of $5’s to 4 racks and the main reason is that playing on a round table, space is valuable. There is less space to spread out big stacks. But I like 6 racks in a set because with 200 $1’s, 600 $5’s, 200 $25’s and 40+ $100’s that set can now handle a second table if you end up with 12+ players that night. Stretching a single table set to cover two tables kinda sucks.

IMHO, somewhat risky to have the same chip set on two simultaneous tables, even without any bad intention on the part of anybody.

 

[chippitydoodah]

IMHO, somewhat risky to have the same chip set on two simultaneous tables, even without any bad intention on the part of anybody.

Explain.
Do Casino Card rooms not have the same chips on all the tables at once?

 

[Kam]

100 fracs
200 $1
400 $5
80 $20/$25
20 $100

All able to fit in an Apache 3800 or Nanuk 920 case.

And lesson learned for me, don’t listen to @RocAFella1 for what setup to take to a meetup. Think I’ll go with your proposed for DiD vs last year’s influenced by the bourbon degen:

 

[Coyote]

Explain.
Do Casino Card rooms not have the same chips on all the tables at once?

Yes, with dedicated dealers for each table, supervisors, and a truckload of security cameras.

 

[liftapint]

And lesson learned for me, don’t listen to @RocAFella1 for what setup to take to a meetup. Think I’ll go with your proposed for DiD vs last year’s influenced by the bourbon degen:

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Seems like you could use a few more racks of $5s. I know a gal…

 

[chippitydoodah]

Yes, with dedicated dealers for each table, supervisors, and a truckload of security cameras.

Are you implying there could be some kind of collusion between players handing off chips to each other to boost their stacks?

 

[Rhodeman77]

IMHO, somewhat risky to have the same chip set on two simultaneous tables, even without any bad intention on the part of anybody.

Why? I control the chips. None get in play unless I hand them to someone. Eventually we will collapse to 1 table. I don’t want to have to cash everyone out from the second table then rebuy them into the main game.

 

[toothpic]

At a home game it's a controlled environment so I say the risk of using a single set across 2 or more table is minimal. The players are vetted and are invite only. More risk for a place where randoms can show up and try to sneak something in, which is why they have more security.

Also, following the PCF way, even these large sets are likely rotated so not the same set is in play week after week.

It's even less risk for the home game when the chips are custom or semi custom.

 

[Coyote]

Serious comments, agreed; but I personally don't have more than 8 best friends.

 

[BEANO52]

I've said it before and will again, @RocAFella1 came up with the perfect meetup travel dispersion that fits perfectly in an Apache 2800.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/25-50-200bb-buy-in-breakdown.136627/#post-2783107

700 chip (nearly $8200) breakdown 100/160/300/100/40

Optional leave the fracs behind and use loaners if available.

edit: OP asked about .25/.50 PCF meetups specifically.

 

[RocAFella1]

And lesson learned for me, don’t listen to @RocAFella1 for what setup to take to a meetup. Think I’ll go with your proposed for DiD vs last year’s influenced by the bourbon degen:

PCF meetup rookie hazing?

I've said it before and will again, @RocAFella1 came up with the perfect meetup travel dispersion that fits perfectly in an Apache 2800.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/25-50-200bb-buy-in-breakdown.136627/#post-2783107

700 chip (nearly $8200) breakdown 100/160/300/100/40

 

[grandmeme]

I think this really depends on the stakes.. Some games claim to be "$1/$2" but we had 20k on the table.. While my "$1/$1" is a little bit more modest with an average of around 6.5k on the table for a 7 max game.

For your question, I have played in many games $1/$3 games where the host only spread 2 racks of $5s. That's my answer. But in terms of comfort, I prefer 4.

 

[detroitdad]

Last couple of meet ups at @detroitdad ’s, I banked two tables and both times all 800 $5s were in play.

Weren't you doing two tables? That was v fun having that many chips on the table. Thanks!

 

[Timmah]

I would say that the stakes will dictate how many $5s you need.

At my home game, we play $1, $2, $4 bet structure. 2 racks of $5s is plenty. At a friend’s game, we play 1/2 PLH/PLO with an average buy in of $300. For that game, 4 racks is best. Initial buy in gets $20 in $1s, $205 in $5s, and $75 in $25s. Future buy-ins receive $25 chips.

 

[CraigT78]

Assuming regular PCF meet up stakes (0.25/0.50) with a max $100 initial buy in for a 6 to 7 handed mixed games table, how many racks of $5's are really needed?

4 is all that's really needed, but 6-8 is preferred

 

[Tonystark137]

At a home game it's a controlled environment so I say the risk of using a single set across 2 or more table is minimal. The players are vetted and are invite only. More risk for a place where randoms can show up and try to sneak something in, which is why they have more security.

Also, following the PCF way, even these large sets are likely rotated so not the same set is in play week after week.

It's even less risk for the home game when the chips are custom or semi custom.

Can someone sneak some Tiger Primary $5s or RA $5s onto my table please? I'll cash them out at face value

 

[Tonysquander]

2.

FWIW I have banked multiple tables at multiple DIDs (both Craig and Roman played at them at one point or another) and never brought more than 2 racks of $5s. Was not a problem and no one noticed or commented on not having 5-8 racks of $5s scattered across the table.

#freethe$25

 

[CraigT78]

2.

FWIW I have banked multiple tables at multiple DIDs (both Craig and Roman played at them at one point or another) and never brought more than 2 racks of $5s. Was not a problem and no one noticed or commented on not having 5-8 racks of $5s scattered across the table.

#freethe$25

Oh we noticed.

We are just too damn polite to have said anything.

 

[toothpic]

Oh we noticed.

We are just too damn polite to have said anything.

+1

Normally you're making change for your 5s in exchange for 1s and fracs.

We were also making change for our 25s in exchange for 5s and 1s and fracs.

 

[Tonysquander]

I will take things that never happened for 100 Alex…

 

[BSteck]

Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.


It works for Holy Hand-grenades as well as racks of $5’s.

 

[MatB]

1 table 7 MAX 1/1

$1 x 80
$5 x 620
$25 x 200
$100 x 100

 

[ChipFinderSK]

100 fracs
200 $1
400 $5
80 $20/$25
20 $100

Quoted is the optimal breakdown for a versatile .25/.50 one table set, IMO (answer would change for 1/1 - 1/3 games)

Wanted to point out that the title/poll are asking at least two different questions, though: title asks how many racks are “enough,” while the poll asks what the “minimum” number required is. And the OP asks how many are “really needed.”

-2 is probably true for absolute “minimum” required
-3 would be my answer for “really needed” (could work assuming you have enough of the other denoms)
-6 would be the vote for how many racks are “enough”

 

[MatB]

apologies to the OP.

I did not understand the assignment,

in a .25/.50 game - 1 table, 7 Max,

.25 X 100
$1 x 100
$5 x 600
$25 x 120
$100 x 80

 

[ovo]

west coast rules 4

 

[LeLe]

2 racks felt a little short, 4 racks+ felt a bit too many

3 racks are the sweet spot

 

[Huskerchipper]

Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.

 

[Winslow2918]

x800 consideration for @doublebooyah85 but some of us still play with dice chips often. Many 5s though.