Another thread about making a CPC set (3 Viewers)

[Huskerchipper]

You have alot of good advice so i will just say this. If you go ahead and order what you have suggested and you keep playing poker and hanging out here are PCF. I am 1000% certain you will look back and think "wtf was i thinking". I know I did with my first CPC order and it was tame compared to yours. Please stick around and read a bit, there is LOTS more to learn.

 

[drdr]

Oh thanks, don't know how I missed it, unfortunately I cannot order a sample set as I'm located outside of the US so I guess I'll just wait until they return shipping globally.

You're getting excellent advice and are listening. Both are awesome.

I reckon you can still order the sample set. Try for reshipping, perhaps.

You NEED that sample set considering how broad and varied your planned set is. And also because some colour advice above may not be right for you...

For example, my mandarin red chip is my favourite in my set, the best CPC red in my opinion. To me looks nothing like orange. To others it apparently does. Samples!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I do take everything I read into consideration, I know most of the people here including yourself and @Machine know way more than I do.

Regarding your points, I've spoken with Mike from CPC and I know they are not taking orders as of now until about September he said to me a few days back, but I like to plan ahead and I also want to get a case for the set etc... so I have my work cut out for me before I pull the trigger.

I do want to spend money on the big denoms for 2 main reasons,
1) I want a fuller bigger set, I just do.

It's your set. You should absolutely do what you want.

2) There were times where one player stacked everybody at the table and had a massive stack so he took a 1000 chip from the kit so we could have the lower denoms for the rest of the table.

I have two things to say about this. One, it's because you probably don't have enough $5 or $25 chips. And two, you can also solve this same issue with ten $100 chips, or even two $500 chips, of which you have both in your set. At the stakes you play, with a full rack of $100s, and a full rack of $500s, I don't think that would ever happen again. Think about it - a rack of $100s is $10,000. Add that to 3-4 racks of $5s and a rack of $25s. Will you ever have more than $14,000 on the table? If so, then a rack of $500s adds on another $50,000.

I understand the importance of glancing over your opponents stack to estimate how much does he have behind, but even tho I will have more denoms I think by making them distinc it will be clear as well wouldn't it?

The more different denoms you add, and if you also have a lot of fracs and $1s, it definitely gets more difficult.

I will rethink my denominations and their quantities regardless.

Again thank you so much! I'm glad for all the help and advice I'm getting

We are just here to help. Good luck to you!

 

[buzzmonkey]

It's absolutely critical to get a sample set for colors. The tool does not accurately represent the real world look of the colors and the samples will really let you play around with real sense of what you'll end up with. Ordering a CPC set without the color samples is possibly THE biggest mistake you could make going in.

 

[Machine]

You're getting excellent advice and are listening. Both are awesome.

So often ppl get solid advice and they are not open to it. It causes ppl to stop giving advice.

I agree, the OPs ability to take advice is refreshing.

 

[Cratty]

So often ppl get solid advice and they are not open to it. It causes ppl to stop giving advice.

I agree, the OPs ability to take advice is refreshing.

That reminds me..... Hard Candy Hold'em is due for its next bump.

 

[JustOneChip]

Thanks again everyone for all your advice. Your experience helps a ton, and I appreciate you all taking the time.

I will be definitely adjusting the set's denominations and quantities.

As for colors, I know I need that sample set. I'm going to email CPC to try and send me one, even though they say they don't ship outside the US right now.

I'm very busy atm, so this will be a long project also because of the fact CPC is currently not taking orders, but I've already connected with @alecnetwoodworks about the custom case. I'm 100% going for a 1,000 chip case I want it to be big, even if I won't use all of the big denoms (for now....).

Also I'm speaking with my graphic designer friend who is already on board to start working on the case + inlay artwork.

The theme for the set will be 'The Wolf's Den' which holds personal meaning for me.

I'll keep you updated
Thanks!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I've already connected with @alecnetwoodworks about the custom case. I'm 100% going for a 1,000 chip case I want it to be big, even if I won't use all of the big denoms (for now....).

Smart move. I was going to link you to him when you mentioned wanting a case, but then I had already said so much that I forgot. Alec is my son, and he will create piece of art for you.

 

[JustOneChip]

Smart move. I was going to link you to him when you mentioned wanting a case, but then I had already said so much that I forgot. Alec is my son, and he will create piece of art for you.

For sure, he has some amazing work, I'm sure he will create something amazing!

 

[JustOneChip]

I actually have two sample sets, but one of them is unmarked. If you want it, you can have it for just the cost of shipping. PM me. I'll help you identity which chip is which, or I can mark on them with a sharpie if you want me to.

Hey @TX_Golf_N_Poker,

For some reason I've missed your reply completely, I'm now working on my denoms value, design and quantities and was reading all the feedback I got and came across your reply.

I would absolutely love to!
The thing is that I cannot PM you as I did not make 3 posts yet and it's not allowed to create dud posts.

So how can I contact you?

Thank you so much for your kind offer!

 

[JustOneChip]

So guys, I've done some thinking, I've decided to cut 300 chips from to total amount (1,300 => 1,000).

Planned Denominations & Quantities:​

• $0.50 × 100 (was 200)
• $1 × 200 (was 300)
• $5 × 200 (was 100)
• $10 - REMOVED (was 100)
• $25 × 100
• $100 × 100
• $500 × 100
• $1,000 × 100
• $5,000 × 100
• $10,000 - REMOVED (was 100)
  Total: 1,000 chips

By this logic the 1,000 denom chip could also be removed but I want it for its bright DG Saturn color, and the cool 1,000 denom.

Also here are the redesigned colors and spot patterns + Grey background (to distinguish the Bright Whites chips)

Left to right, Smallest chip (0.5) is top left, largest is bottom right (5,000).

Regarding inlay design, today I've finalized prices with my graphic designer and I will update you as I have something to show.

Also I thought about the case layout that will have 5 wooden racks each with 100 chips.
I've done an illustration in Microsoft Excel how I will organize it.

Each cell = 5 chips.

Looking forward to see what you guys think,

Thanks!

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you should get whatever suits your eye. I like the frac, $1 and $100. That said, I am not a fan of the chips where the edge spot is too much like the base color, i.e. Dayglo Orange on Retro Red, Blurple on Purple and Maroon on Chocolate. Why have edge spots if they are going to blend into the chip to the point of almost disappearing. Same issue with some of the edge spots themselves with Retro Blue on Blurple and Dayglo Peach on Dayglo Tiger. And there seems to be a whole lot of pink in the edge spots. Just my two cents.

 

[JustOneChip]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you should get whatever suits your eye. I like the frac, $1 and $100. That said, I am not a fan of the chips where the edge spot is too much like the base color, i.e. Dayglo Orange on Retro Red, Blurple on Purple and Maroon on Chocolate. Why have edge spots if they are going to blend into the chip to the point of almost disappearing. Same issue with some of the edge spots themselves with Retro Blue on Blurple and Dayglo Peach on Dayglo Tiger. And there seems to be a whole lot of pink in the edge spots. Just my two cents.

Appreciate it, I'm still working on the colors and love the feedback.

 

[Huskerchipper]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you should get whatever suits your eye. I like the frac, $1 and $100. That said, I am not a fan of the chips where the edge spot is too much like the base color, i.e. Dayglo Orange on Retro Red, Blurple on Purple and Maroon on Chocolate. Why have edge spots if they are going to blend into the chip to the point of almost disappearing. Same issue with some of the edge spots themselves with Retro Blue on Blurple and Dayglo Peach on Dayglo Tiger. And there seems to be a whole lot of pink in the edge spots. Just my two cents.

Good point. Some of those colors look acceptable in regards to contrast on the chip designer tool but look waaay too much alike in regular to low lighting.

 

[VerdeChipper]

The only 2 that I'd offer any critique are the $500 & the $5000. In real life blurple and retro blue just don't have much contrast at all. They will get lost side by side. Maybe just changing the blurple to lavender would help that. The brown chip, (and everybody knows I like brown, is kinda growing on me). But, I will say the maroon is VERY dark and like the purple chip, doesn't have much contrast, especially against the dk brown. The pinks and lighter reds look pretty good against it. Just my 2 cents, I think the edge spot design of that last chip is a bit busy - but, I guess alot of chips seem to be getting that "over the top progressive edge spot" treatment these days. Can't wait to see what the label inlays are going to look like.

 

[JustOneChip]

The only 2 that I'd offer any critique are the $500 & the $5000. In real life blurple and retro blue just don't have much contrast at all. They will get lost side by side. Maybe just changing the blurple to lavender would help that. The brown chip, (and everybody knows I like brown, is kinda growing on me). But, I will say the maroon is VERY dark and like the purple chip, doesn't have much contrast, especially against the dk brown. The pinks and lighter reds look pretty good against it. Just my 2 cents, I think the edge spot design of that last chip is a bit busy - but, I guess alot of chips seem to be getting that "over the top progressive edge spot" treatment these days. Can't wait to see what the label inlays are going to look like.

I understand what you're saying, I will try to tweak it more.

Regarding the inlays once I will have something to show I will post it

 

[JustOneChip]

I actually have two sample sets, but one of them is unmarked. If you want it, you can have it for just the cost of shipping. PM me. I'll help you identity which chip is which, or I can mark on them with a sharpie if you want me to.

Hey @TX_Golf_N_Poker, I think you might have missed my message, is your offer still up for grabs?

Thanks.

 

[JustOneChip]

Update on chip colors:​

I'm not sure about a few chips:

• Light blue
• Red - not sure if the spot coloring is good or not
• Purple - spots are too similar but can't find something else I like
• Yellow - Pink is used again here, not sure what to replace it with.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

 

[buzzmonkey]

Update on chip colors:​

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I'm not sure about a few chips:

• Light blue
• Red - not sure if the spot coloring is good or not
• Purple - spots are too similar but can't find something else I like
• Yellow - Pink is used again here, not sure what to replace it with.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

On the purple, try swapping out lavender for some shade of green.

 

[Huskerchipper]

You have come a long ways. I love creating and playing around on there and played with the chips I wasn't crazy about...though l left the $5000 alone for now.

I (along with most on here) am very against using Saturn as the base color for a chip so I picked Canary.

 

[JustOneChip]

You have come a long ways. I love creating and playing around on there and played with the chips I wasn't crazy about...though l left the $5000 alone for now. View attachment 1518763
I (along with most on here) am very against using Saturn as the base color for a chip so I picked Canary.

Wow that's nice. I really like the first 2 designs.
I think I'm going to go with them.

Regarding the Saturn as the base color, it's just what looked like the most pop for a yellow in the designer, I'm working on getting a sample, probably will change it to Canary / Yellow after I'll have a look at the samples.

The last one I will take your colors and play around with it, maybe change the some of the blues.

Thank you!

 

[maxim_666666]

So many responses...
After reading the first post I thought the author had smoked a mountain of crack...
Everything you've written is 100% fact, no matter what you say, sooner or later these chips would have appeared on sale.... And the first would have been $10. The denominations are adjusted well, but I would still change them a little.... And I would add undernominated chips, gift and for fun, if you like it. And be sure to get fresh samples of the color from the new owner! Because they will most likely change a little. Without them, planning is pointless. Saturn is great if you have good lighting, and terrible if bad...

 

[Phoe9x]

I hope you know what DG Saturn looks like in real life. Cause it seems to be quite the acquired taste

 

[JustOneChip]

So many responses...
After reading the first post I thought the author had smoked a mountain of crack...
Everything you've written is 100% fact, no matter what you say, sooner or later these chips would have appeared on sale.... And the first would have been $10. The denominations are adjusted well, but I would still change them a little.... And I would add undernominated chips, gift and for fun, if you like it. And be sure to get fresh samples of the color from the new owner! Because they will most likely change a little. Without them, planning is pointless. Saturn is great if you have good lighting, and terrible if bad...
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Hey @maxim_666666, Thanks for you comment.

What made you think I smoked a crack?

Also if you're referring to me selling my custom set I can assure you it's not going to happen.

How would you tweek the denoms? Could you elaborate? (1,000 chip set)

It's a good idea on adding some undenominated chips, however it's they can get expansive so I'm not sure if it's cost efficient for me, also when I inquired about ordering a set long ago I remembered that David said you can order a min of 100 per color, so I will have to order a single batch just for gift chips.

And yea I will get both the mold and color set before placing my order.

 

[surfik]

This is confusing...

 

[maxim_666666]

That’s not exactly how it works. The minimum order is 300 chips. Every 100 chips equals one color.

But you can order 298 white, 1 red, and 1 green.

Right now you have 1,000 chips and 8 different denominations... But you can go up to 10.

For example, in your last breakdown I saw a $5,000 chip.

Are you really planning to, and will you actually have half a million in cash in the bank?? If this isn’t just imagination, then you seriously need to consider the risk of getting robbed. That’s a very real concern.

If you very rarely use the $1,000 chip (and in a cash game, you’ll need at most a single barrel of them), then the $5K chips will never be used under any circumstances. Never! That’s a waste of $600. If you still want to have them (and we all know why), just order 20 of them and keep them in the case.


Here’s what my last order looked like.

If you enjoy spending money on perfectly racks in multiples of 100—go for it! It’s your money.

But if you want to get a cool and highly functional set while also saving some $, then just order the number of chips based on your specific game types. That way, you can make the high denominations look cooler and free up money for more of the workhorse chips—which can also have more expensive spot patterns.

 

[maxim_666666]

I haven't gone into too much detail yet, but $5, $100, and $1000 probably won't work if you use these colors. Dayglo Peach and Tiger are close, and Saturn has a slight translucency that turns into an egg yolk in low light. When you get your samples, you should view them in bright sunlight or under a lamp with good color rendering (this is not the same as brightness).

Tiger Saturn Tiger (In low light)

 

[VerdeChipper]

Another thing to consider - you have many denominations. Typically in a tourney you'll only have 3-4 colors in play at anytime. Pretty much the same with a cash game. So, you just need those chips that will be side by side to stand out from each other. Pretty much all your colors really pop against each other when grouped in sets of 3. I like your purple - the dayglo pink jumps off the chip. Had to put my 2c in because I can sit at the chip design tool forever.

 

[JustOneChip]

That’s not exactly how it works. The minimum order is 300 chips. Every 100 chips equals one color.

But you can order 298 white, 1 red, and 1 green.

Right now you have 1,000 chips and 8 different denominations... But you can go up to 10.

For example, in your last breakdown I saw a $5,000 chip.

Are you really planning to, and will you actually have half a million in cash in the bank?? If this isn’t just imagination, then you seriously need to consider the risk of getting robbed. That’s a very real concern.

If you very rarely use the $1,000 chip (and in a cash game, you’ll need at most a single barrel of them), then the $5K chips will never be used under any circumstances. Never! That’s a waste of $600. If you still want to have them (and we all know why), just order 20 of them and keep them in the case.


Here’s what my last order looked like.
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If you enjoy spending money on perfectly racks in multiples of 100—go for it! It’s your money.

But if you want to get a cool and highly functional set while also saving some $, then just order the number of chips based on your specific game types. That way, you can make the high denominations look cooler and free up money for more of the workhorse chips—which can also have more expensive spot patterns.

Oh thank you, I misunderstood how the breakdown of the different colors of chips works, good to know....

I will need to consider maybe changing my chip breakdown again.

Regarding the high denoms, you assume I use USD but I don't I'm using ILS that is about 3.5 times less in value than USD so a 1000 chip is about 286$ USD.
So personally my table is getting up to a 1,000 in chip denom in play, and I'm planing on holding this case for a long long time so I want the ability to use higher denoms.

 

[JustOneChip]

I haven't gone into too much detail yet, but $5, $100, and $1000 probably won't work if you use these colors. Dayglo Peach and Tiger are close, and Saturn has a slight translucency that turns into an egg yolk in low light. When you get your samples, you should view them in bright sunlight or under a lamp with good color rendering (this is not the same as brightness).
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Tiger Saturn Tiger (In low light)
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Maybe you're right about the 5$ and I'm sure you're right about the 1000$ but I think the 100$ will look good with those 2 colors, I can't get my hands on any samples yet but when I will I'll make sure to look at them in different lighting and mix and match colors.

Really appreciate your feedback! Thanks!