MyLastChip
3 of a Kind
Man I need to get to one of your games!Here’s what I recommend:
1) ask to chop if they have chopped before
2) if they say no, play the hand ruthlessly aggressively
3) when you win, parade around the table like you’re a Field Marshall in Napoleon’s Grand Armee while loudly and rhythmically chanting “YOU SHOULDA CHOP! YOU SHOULDA CHOP”. If you can grab something that you can brandish like a baton that would be ideal, so as to further enhance your assumed position of unadulterated power and supreme authority.
Alternative take:
- if he has an original name like Herbert or something, ask the brush to change the name on your players card for waitlists to HERBERT SUX or something of that ilk.
FWIW, if his name really is Herbert, that’s pretty much the dream scenario. You’ve hit the jackpot.
I recently started playing in a actual casino (first time with any structure) in 2021. I haven't been able to this year at all. So I consider myself still VERY new to the game. And the situation came up, "wanna chop?". I probably looked at him like a deer in headlights, I said "Huh". He said again "you wanna chop?" and as I was saying "Uhhhhh" he just tossed in his cards and was like "its okay". and that was it he threw em in. I had no Idea of what the chop meant, I had seen others do it but didn't know why.Perhaps a little math is in order? So, 99% of the players chop 100% the time . . . . .
Let's say the OP is a full time pro. Really more than that, playing sixty hours a week. This works out to ~2,000 hands a week and 500 hands in one of the blinds.
But it shouldn't be common for a table to fold around to the blinds. At least it isn't common at the stakes I play. Perhaps our original poster plays way above my level and has other experiences with the game devolving into a ultra nitty fold fest? One time in ten seems pretty nitty to me - three times an hour. If I collected data, I expect this to happen less than a dozen times a session.
Start with the nitty game. Five hundred hands in the blinds a week. fifty chop opportunities a week. 99% on the time is a sure chop. But twice a month Hero runs into someone who selectively chops. Maybe Hero doesn't get his expected chop once a month.
Of course, hero might not play 60 hours a week. Or he might try to avoid nitty tables where so many hands are folded around. Maybe this doesn't happen even once a month.
The question I ponder is how someone who plays full time poker can get so bent about a rare event with trivial financial consequences. Paying half of one extra rake, once a month or less is a petty thing. That is why I wondered if the original poster was joking - the impact on the win rate is ~ less than 0.01bb per hour played.
Maybe this was a one time thing where the villain really got under hero's skin. Because the angst surely can't be grounded in reduction of win rates.
I have to think this reflects a leak in hero's game. Getting tilted over trivial rare events is a far bigger leak than less than one bb per month lost to non-compliant choppers -=- DrStrange
My thoughts from a very green poker player is I felt that pressure. The game still moves for me very fast when I'm at the casino, Literally have had people tell me after showdown when I was in position "why didn't you bet? you had the absolute nuts" and the looks on their faces were great in disbelief. And I'm sitting there glad I just won 40 bucks on a hand. and I cant even tell you how many times I would be in the big blind and limp around and small blind throws in a 5 dollar chip for a call and I would fold, then see dealer deal the cards without everyone else calling. and even had a dealer or 2 quickly try and explain it too me, but again the game was fast. I didn't want to be that guy, holding up action, appearing to not know what I was doing, when in fact everyone was was probably thinking "this guy know what he's doing?". Guys making seat changes as soon as seats opened up to be my buddy on my left. And looking back at my bet sizing.... I have improved since those but still have well under 100 hours live casino play. but it was daunting going and playing for the first time. now after reading a couple books and studying some I have a better grasp of the game. Was a pretty rough start though. But I bet everyone was glad I was at the table!
I Just didn't see or know what the point of chopping was at the time. And it still kinda puzzles me. who usually initiates the chop? SB or BB? Im assuming SB. can the BB initiate a Chop?