Polyclay Custom Molds (3 Viewers)

here they are as more of a actual mold look

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Are we sure sunfly can print into the debossed mold features? Or will the edges of those features look white when viewed from an angle
Yes -- dye-sub printing completely covers the debossed areas, as evidenced by their other polyclay chip designs.
 
FYI reminder:
Design parameters for new Polyinno mold with debossed pattern:
  • 43mm diameter size
  • 25mm center recess for laminated label application
  • matte surface finish
  • debossed outer ring
  • debossed design elements between outer ring and label recess
  • matte-finish rolling edge
  • sharper rolling edge if possible
Not under consideration:
  • any type of THC imitation mold, such as Hairbrush & Scissors
  • interlocking key
  • crowns
  • text
  • cards
  • dice
Looking for something fresh and generic, with multi-purpose applications for a wide variety of future projects.
 
I'm averse to las-vegas-y casino-y designs so I avoid molds like Dice and Card, Dice and Suits, Suits, Suits and Hat/Cane, etc. But the Paradise-esque design from @p5woody is another creature altogether, and I like it. The suit pips aren't prominent, they're accents, in much the same way that the pineapples in Paradise add some character. The bulk of the design is carried by the scrollwork, which I like very much.

Of the three designs Woody showed here, I think the first is just a little sparse due to the lack of anything between the scrolls, the second even more so because of the reduced size of the scrolls, and the third gives me the willies because of the imbalanced nature of the doubled-up suit pips (the chip now has a handedness). I'd love to see what the first design looked like with suit pips added between the scrolls (as in the third one) rather than replacing the crowns above the scrolls (as in the second one).

I thought I was going to love the triangles design, since I do love the web mold, but the first pass has me less enthused than I thought. I'd be interested to see what it looked like if it were a narrower ring, flanked again on the inside and outside by another two circles. The effect might be something like MD-80 HOUR GLASS or MD-41 CHAIN LINKS or MD-90 ZIG ZAG:

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Those particular examples are probably too busy for what you're contemplating, but the narrower-triangle-ring I suggested above might not be.

I'd be very interested to see mockups of the star design, and especially the "something" that would go between them. I'd also be curious what a five-star instead of six-star design would look like, and how it might interact with people's later decisions regarding pseudo-spot placement.

An eagle design similar to MD38a Eagles and Suits, but without the suits, and with a pyramid or something pyramid-ishly-shaped between the eagles might be interesting. The eagles "point" inward and the pyramids (or whatever) point outwards, so you have alternating and interlocking figures going around the edge.

I like the last of @timinater 's mockups, but I think it might be too much. I'd love to have a sample of chips like that, but I'm skeptical I'd want to own a full set of them:

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On a completely unrelated note: re that picture you posted of the Polyclay molds... the fourth mold labeled CB004, "Pattern"... what is that? I like it because it's unusual and round and patterned... but it's also weird. Any idea what it's supposed to be, and who besides me would want such a mold?
 
i do like the stars and lines
 

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I'm curious what kinds of chip designs might be contemplated to go onto any of these mold designs. The distinctive feature of the Polyclay hybrid is that it has a recessed label and a debossed rim and a fully-printable rim. What kind of chips are we going to see that take advantage of all of that?

For example, would either of these designs be improved by having a debossed rim?

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And conversely, would this be improved by having a design printed on the rim?

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I feel like we're destined to see a lot of chips like this:

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... where we're basically replicating a compression clay, but faking it using painted-on spots instead of clay inserts. I'm not sure that's a great aesthetic.

What sorts of chips are you envisioning will come out of a new custom Polyclay mold, and what sorts of debossed rim designs will facilitate those kinds of chips?
 
... where we're basically replicating a compression clay, but faking it using painted-on spots instead of clay inserts. I'm not sure that's a great aesthetic.

I think this is exactly the goal, and your second two examples are what people want. It may not be as nice as actual compression clay, but It’s a fraction of the price.

The smooth ones you used for the first two examples are kind of a blank slate to do the things you show on those plus a lot more. I’m not sure those styles of designs would work in these chips with ‘molds’ since they wouldn’t line up perfectly. May be some potential if they did line up though
 
Design parameters for new Polyinno mold with debossed pattern:
  • 43mm diameter size
  • 25mm center recess for laminated label application
  • matte surface finish
  • debossed outer ring
  • debossed design elements between outer ring and label recess
  • matte-finish rolling edge
  • sharper rolling edge if possible
Potential design ideas:
  • Star mold -- six equally spaced 5-pointed stars (pointed outwards), possibly with a short curved line or simple design element spaced between stars. Using six elements vs eight minimizes the cluttered effect while also minimizing the amount of displaced material.
  • Triangle mold -- equilateral triangles between a narrow outer and inner ring, where the base of each alternating up-and-down triangles creates the ring line. Thin recessed lines; similar to web mold design but a less busy application of the concept.
  • Horseshoe mold -- series of equally spaced horseshoes.
  • Eagle mold -- series of equally spaced eagle head or head/body images.
  • Suits mold -- lots of design direction options here, including the Four Suits logo (as-is or modified). There is a variety of individual suit image options -- either grouped together, spread out, paired, or even using abstract imagery.
Not under consideration:
  • any type of THC imitation mold, such as Hairbrush & Scissors
  • interlocking key
  • crowns
  • text
  • cards
  • dice
A few other designs are also under current consideration. Looking for something fresh and generic, with multi-purpose applications for a wide variety of future projects. Feedback and suggestions welcome.
Dave, I think this question was asked, but I couldn't find the answer. Are you fairly well set on Sun-Fly producing this, or are you going to give the Cards mold manufacturer a shot at it?

Also, any updates on the possibility of a sharper rolling edge?

Thanks. I think this could be a real game changer. New mold, sharper edges. Reasonable pricing. I love it! Of all I have seen so far, my vote goes for the Star mold.
 
Dave, I think this question was asked, but I couldn't find the answer. Are you fairly well set on Sun-Fly producing this, or are you going to give the Cards mold manufacturer a shot at it?

Also, any updates on the possibility of a sharper rolling edge?

Thanks. I think this could be a real game changer. New mold, sharper edges. Reasonable pricing. I love it! Of all I have seen so far, my vote goes for the Star mold.
Still undecided.

Sun-Fly is a well known entity and PCF vendor with excellent customer service and reasonable group buy pricing, and has absorbed new mold costs in the past for PCF group buys.

Quoted new mold costs are cheaper with the Chinese vendor (which may be irrelevant if Sun-Fly waives the charges), and the per-chip costs would probably be less (but unconfirmed at this point). I'm waiting on first hand evaluation of the cards mold chips to establish their dye-sub print and mold quality capability. Their ability to print high-quality laminated labels remains unknown.

I'm generally inclined to pay extra to get a better quality product, but no decision has been made on sourcing at this time.
 
Still undecided.

Sun-Fly is a well known entity and PCF vendor with excellent customer service and reasonable group buy pricing, and has absorbed new mold costs in the past for PCF group buys.

Quoted new mold costs are cheaper with the Chinese vendor (which may be irrelevant if Sun-Fly waives the charges), and the per-chip costs would probably be less (but unconfirmed at this point). I'm waiting on first hand evaluation of the cards mold chips to establish their dye-sub print and mold quality capability. Their ability to print high-quality laminated labels remains unknown.

I'm generally inclined to pay extra to get a better quality product, but no decision has been made on sourcing at this time.
Thanks! Just realized I completely missed the part about these having laminated labels rather than printed center artwork. So like the PolyInno Prestige chips, correct? Yeah, I completely understand going with Sun-Fly for that style.
 

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