WTF is wrong with me?? (1 Viewer)

allforcharity said:
My journey, at least so far, has been about getting a diversity of sets that represents a wide swath of the hobby and what's generally available out there.
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Probably some other variables that I forgot, but you get the idea.
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I see you have the same disease that I do.
 
allforcharity said:
Need is a strong word. Want would be more appropriate. If it happens, it happens, but have some other pursuits that take precedence.
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He’s not wrong though. In these times where Paulsons go for $10/20/30/whatever per chip, BCCs are such good value it’s ridiculous
 
Eriks said:
He’s not wrong though. In these times where Paulsons go for $10/20/30/whatever per chip, BCCs are such good value it’s ridiculous
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No, he's not wrong. But I don't have thousands of dollars just sitting there for impulse chip purchases. My real wants are a result of research and patience.
 
allforcharity said:
No, he's not wrong. But I don't have thousands of dollars just sitting there for impulse chip purchases. My real wants are a result of research and patience.
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Of course. But if you haven’t researched BCCs yet, I would highly recommened it. And for the record it would only take like 1.5 thousand dollars to get a set :)
 
upNdown said:
I agree with all of this except the part about supply. Supply is at an all time high (unless you consider those years when you could order your own Paulsons, TRKs, or BCCs) - I mean, the chip room has personally put over 2 million chips into circulation in the past couple of years, and there are always a bunch of group buys and now you have guys shaking every tree to find chips, and actually finding them! Supply is actually huge right down.
But demand is INSANE.
Personally, I’ve stopped giving a F. I have chips that make me happy, partly because I have some cool chips, partly because I’ve adjusted my expectations.
The hoarding aspect of this hobby always bothered me in the background, but when it was guys who have been collecting chips since Jesus was a freshman, how could I complain about that? Now it’s them, plus a new waive of enthusiastic chippers with very deep pockets. It’ll get you frustrated and disillusioned if you focus on what other people have.
I dunno, it’s tough to say it shouldn’t be about the chips, when we’re on a site that’s literally all about the chips. But I think you just have to host some games, maybe make some customs you can afford, and enjoy poker.
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RHC supply is high. (Feels like 80% of the Paulson sale threads are IOCs and HSIs.) But quality THCs are either not being listed in any usable quantity or are being auctioned at wild prices.
 
allforcharity said:
(But secretly, yes, he does)
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Haha, I would, but not at these crazy prices.

i just bought another set from Chiproom. So I will likely have to put together a tournament set from it, which means tracking down barrels and… racks

and you know that I would’ve been perfectly fine with my DDLM set had we not met that one day. ;)
 
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Taghkanic said:
RHC supply is high. (Feels like 80% of the Paulson sale threads are IOCs and HSIs.) But quality THCs are either not being listed in any usable quantity or are being auctioned at wild prices.
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No doubt about that. And my guess is that will never change. People have finally attached the appropriate premium to them. Oh and also, one guy bought most of them.
 
Eriks said:
For the last 2 years I have been refreshing this site every few minutes of every day building set after set. Loving the hunt and the excitment of always having chips travelling to me. And now lately, I feel nothing. I don’t care about new listings anymore. There’re no sets I covet and I can’t see myself ever again spending the kind of cash I used to commit on a whim before. I’ve even started thinking about unloading some of my sets as I just don’t see the point anymore. Maybe it has to do with how the prices have been going lately. I don’t know, just doesn’t feel fun anymore.

Has anyone else gone through a phase like this and then come back? Fuck, I used to love chipping and I miss the feeling. What’s wrong with me? PCF, please help!
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I think this is extremely normal. I used to be a part of a huge playing card collecting community. I'm talking thousands of decks of cards. And I was extremely active, very well known online in the community, and then one day, for literally no reason, I just didn't have any interest in cards anymore. I still have quite a few of my collection, but they just sit in storage. Occasionally I snap a cool little shot of some of my rarer decks and throw it up on Instagram here and there, trying to "feel something" as you mentioned. But It's not the same. Although, these last couple weeks I find myself going to the area where my decks are stored and messing around with them again. Maybe it's time for this cycle to rotate back. Life is cyclical, you are not alone. That being said.....if you do unload any sets, I'd take a gander, as I am rather new to the high end set collecting on here, and I need my newcomer fix :)

I hope you end up feeling some excitement in your hobbies again. Cheers
 
Relief and chipping karma have come for me recently, when I sold all marketable sets I had (there 's still one set that could have people paying good money for, but I 'd have to get really poor for that to happen).
Whenever my new ordered customs come here, I 'll be owning 3 CPC custom sets (one inlayed Vegas-colored, one inlayed Cali-colored, and one filthy-rural tourney hot-stamped), plus one Paulson custom-overlabelled set (plus a filthy plastic custom-labelled rural travel set, which doesn't really count here).
I think peace of mind is produced by not having anything to sell.

upNdown said:
guys who have been collecting chips since Jesus was a freshman
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Jesus, especially as a freshman, advised on sharing sets.:p:p
:)
 
upNdown said:
No doubt about that. And my guess is that will never change. People have finally attached the appropriate premium to them. Oh and also, one guy bought most of them.
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He even bought all the ones that nobody knew about!
 
jrs146 said:
Careful that’s an even bigger rabbit hole than chipping! o_O
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Greek joke about Cretans [who had been through mutually genocidal warfare with the invading Ottomans from 1669 to 1912 and were left with a huge macho, blood-thirsty and heroic tradition, supposedly more so than in any other mountainous part of Greece, witnessed anyway as late as in 1941 by allied ANZACs and invading Nazis]:

Guy ponders whether to sell his great-granfather's silver-lined sword, in order to buy a Rolex.
The other guys:
And if someone tells you something about your mom's c*nt, what could you ever do with a Rolex?
Reply "a quarter to eight?"
:)
 
I feel you brother, and in my experience the buzz is over and it's a good thing. Or at least a much cheaper thing.

I started out in the PCF times, when there wasn't a whole lot of casino chips. A very fun fact was that when Paulson changed their formula to non-lead there was a hysteria on PCF as people started worrying about lead in chips and how everyone shuffled them and ate snacks. People were "panicking" over having leaded sets at home with toddlers around. I calculated that a toddler had to eat either 3 or 4 chips if they were at their maximum to hit the max acceptable level but people were still in a frenzy.

Anyways, as there wasn't a whole lot of neither fantasy and especially casino chips, I cycled through many of them. I managed to get a playable grail set, and then "invested" in a ASM/CPC set and that really did it for me. Due to shipping and customs, I lost a shit-ton of money on these Paulson chips as I bought from, and sold to, NA. And they were cheap back then - compared to today's prices.

Eventually, you realize that grail sets are really really hard to "nominate", and when you get it - there's still something off. Even if I could design my own grail set, I don't think I could. And at the point you realize that, you lose all momentum. Even relabeling can't fulfill that need. You need someone from here, to design a kickass set with your own label to get close to it, and even then - eventually - there will be some chip that isn't perfect. You need someone to come up with something that you haven't seen before and that you really like - so you can't design it yourself. You need a stranger to convey your lacking creativity - an impossible task.

So now you're at an impasse and you look for some other reason to collect, which triggered this post. For me, it was relabeling a casino (chip room) set since I like the Paulson feel over CPC. And then you start tweaking. And you'll never feel fulfilled and you realize that you've found a new sinkhole for your income. When you're incapable of designing you own dream set, you'll never be done relabeling, or chasing ghosts. But you won't feel fulfilled like you did in your ignorant start.

Welcome to the club, chump.
 
@Eriks... the only thing wrong with you is that you're human... so join the club!

Mankind is wired for relationships. Stuff doesn't ever give us lasting joy. It just lures us in with the illusion of fulfillment, and then it leaves us empty-handed.

As @Ben8257, @FordPickup92 and others have pointed out, the real joy of this hobby comes from the moments we have together. There is also thrill in the hunt, and it can be quite fun to express ourselves creatively, as many have mentioned with custom chips and so on.

For me, I go in and out of the binge and purge cycle as a chipper. When I've been a gluttonous pig, I feel pretty bad about myself. When I let go of things I had once coveted, whether to friend or stranger, it liberates me and gives me peace of mind that is missing during the binge phase.

I am not always able to hold back the monster in me, but when I put in a concerted effort to help others, perhaps finding chips they've been struggling after, it gives me so much more enjoyment than any selfish pursuit could ever provide.

I think we all have a dark side. My PCF name is representative of this concept.

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For some people, the hobby might run its course and lose its luster. For me, it's the lasting friendships that keep me going.

How do you combat all of this negativity? Play some poker. Help a friend. Help a stranger. Design cool chips and goodies. Sell stuff, when you need to cure the sickness. Take a longer break, when you need a full reset. You may come back stronger than ever, or maybe you just need something else in your life. Either way, it's all about relationships - not the least of which is the relationship to one's self. A fresh mind and clear conscience doesn't hurt.

Thank you @Eriks for starting this discussion. You are not alone in your struggles. Godspeed on your quest to finding greater purpose and meaning.

@Steppenwolf
 
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Steppenwolf said:
@Eriks... the only thing wrong with you is that you're human... so join the club!

Mankind is wired for relationships. Stuff doesn't ever give us lasting joy. It just lures us in with the illusion of fulfillment, and then it leaves us empty-handed.

As @Ben8257, @FordPickup92 and others have pointed out, the real joy of this hobby comes from the moments we have together. There is also thrill in the hunt, and it can be quite fun to express ourselves creatively, as many have mentioned with custom chips and so on.

For me, I go in and out of the binge and purge cycle as a chipper. When I've been a gluttonous pig, I feel pretty bad about myself. When I let go of things I had once coveted, whether to friend or stranger, it liberates me and gives me peace of mind that is missing during the binge phase.

I am not always able to hold back the monster in me, but when I put in a concerted effort to help others, perhaps finding chips they've been struggling after, it gives me so much more enjoyment than any selfish pursuit could ever provide.

I think we all have a dark side. My PCF name is representative of this concept.

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For some people, the hobby might run its course and lose its luster. For me, it's the lasting friendships that keep me going.

How do you combat all of this negativity? Play some poker. Help a friend. Help a stranger. Design cool chips and goodies. Sell stuff, when you need to combat the monster. Take a longer break, when you need a full reset. You may come back stronger than ever, or maybe you just need something else in your life. Either way, it's all about relationships IMHO.

Thank you @Eriks for starting this discussion. You are not alone in your struggles. Godspeed on your quest to finding greater purpose and meaning.

@Steppenwolf
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Who dis? New phone
 
Steppenwolf said:
@Eriks... the only thing wrong with you is that you're human... so join the club!

Mankind is wired for relationships. Stuff doesn't ever give us lasting joy. It just lures us in with the illusion of fulfillment, and then it leaves us empty-handed.

As @Ben8257, @FordPickup92 and others have pointed out, the real joy of this hobby comes from the moments we have together. There is also thrill in the hunt, and it can be quite fun to express ourselves creatively, as many have mentioned with custom chips and so on.

For me, I go in and out of the binge and purge cycle as a chipper. When I've been a gluttonous pig, I feel pretty bad about myself. When I let go of things I had once coveted, whether to friend or stranger, it liberates me and gives me peace of mind that is missing during the binge phase.

I am not always able to hold back the monster in me, but when I put in a concerted effort to help others, perhaps finding chips they've been struggling after, it gives me so much more enjoyment than any selfish pursuit could ever provide.

I think we all have a dark side. My PCF name is representative of this concept.

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For some people, the hobby might run its course and lose its luster. For me, it's the lasting friendships that keep me going.

How do you combat all of this negativity? Play some poker. Help a friend. Help a stranger. Design cool chips and goodies. Sell stuff, when you need to combat the monster. Take a longer break, when you need a full reset. You may come back stronger than ever, or maybe you just need something else in your life. Either way, it's all about relationships IMHO.

Thank you @Eriks for starting this discussion. You are not alone in your struggles. Godspeed on your quest to finding greater purpose and meaning.

@Steppenwolf
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Well said sir, well said :)
 

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